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Date Posted: 08:06:34 09/02/00 Sat
Author: Mariah
Subject: IQ as Religion
In reply to: steve 's message, "Re: Math" on 07:28:45 09/02/00 Sat

A person who is good at math can't remember what not knowing math was like. It becomes part of what we call 'reason', and 'common sense'. And, it is neither. It is a learned thing, and it is called 'math'. You need to know the constructs of math to do math, and those constructs must have been taught to that person or they couldn't do it.

I don't believe intelligence is the accumulation of knowledge. I believe that intelligence doesn't need math as it's underlying structure. It is a limit of the human mind to think that math must underlie intelligence or a person isn't intelligent.

It is much the same as the parochial thought that all life forms must be carbon-based, although there have been those who could stretch their minds to acknowledge that life might just as easily be silicon based.

In my own world, I would say that intelligence has to do with the ability to stretch things into any shape, and thus I would say the parts of the test which probably illustrate pure intelligence separated from what has been learned (math, english, etc.) is the spacial relationship part of the test. Otherwise it is just a test to see what people have learned from what they were taught, which is not an indicator of intelligence APTITUDE meaning the level one might attain.

Don't get me wrong, I'm obviously not saying that an IQ test doesn't indicate a certain level of accomplishment, knowledge, and skill level in those who score a high level.

I am saying that scoring a low level on an IQ test does NOT imply that a person is not capable of raising their IQ as high as they'd like to raise it. That in no way is what many people believe about IQ tests. Many use it as some sort of barometer that indicates a person will never have aptitude, and not only now, but always will be 'stupid'.

After a label is placed upon any person, they sit in that label and that label affects them for the rest of time. Whether that label be 'the damned', 'low IQ', 'stupid', 'lunkhead', or any other method people use to degrade others.

So, IQ is a concept used to degrade others. It is used as a religious concept, to raise one above another again so they can feel 'more special' than another.

It is just as religious as any religion is.

> I am not going to comment on all of these because I
> don't have time, but that first one is more a simple
> logic then math problem, it's conecptual, when ever
> you have a third of something and add the same
> amount(the third to the the third and the third to the
> whole, you will have a half...a child could see this
> if he looked at three coins against nine if he was
> abstract thinking and rational enough).
>
> 3 and 9 6 and 12
>
> 7 and 21
>
> 14 and 28
>
> 12 and 36
>
> 24 and 48
>
> 17 and 51
>
> 34 and 68
>
> ...so on and so on...again, this is done to test
> abstract thinking, reason, and conecptual logic...it
> is more comprehension of math than anything else...it
> is not a complex problem...

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Replies:

Re: IQ as Religion -- avalanche, 08:25:00 09/02/00 Sat
- Rational, Reasonable -- Mariah, 08:37:10 09/02/00 Sat
  - Re: Rational, Reasonable -- avalanche, 10:08:40 09/02/00 Sat