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Date Posted: 10:22:53 10/16/03 Thu
Author: Kuzibah
Author Host/IP: 12.175.117.195
Subject: My thoughts
In reply to: Grim ,_,_) 's message, "Last night's episode of Angel: Discuss (spoilers...obviously)" on 09:02:58 10/16/03 Thu

You know, it's a bit weird watching this show in the new MotW format after being an obsessed fan for so long. I mean, the show starts out with this five-minute picnic sequence where they bring the audience up to speed: The control the evil law firm, Gunn is now super-lawyer, Wes and Fred have this *thing* (ick), Spike is a ghost, blah, blah, blah, and I'm sitting there thinking, "I know this. I should go to the kitchen and get a Diet Coke." Which is weird, because usually when watching a Whedon show I'm hanging on every word because I just *know* it will be important four episodes hence. But not anymore.

Now, Grim will argue this is good, because you can miss the occasional episode and not be lost. But I don't *want* to miss any episodes. I want to be rewarded for my faithfulness.

Not that I dislike the MotW, but as I said, weird.

Anyway, the rest of the show. First, I need to download soundwaves of DB saying, "...Nina..." in that kind of purring, whispering way. Um, no reason. Why do you ask?

Werewolf Girl was okay. We've seen this story before (Oz, of course, but also, to more or less extent, Doyle, Cordy, Bethany, Electro-Girl, and probably others I'm forgetting), the whole, "I'm a monster and no one will love me" thing, but there were a few interesting twists. Interesting that they decided to shut down the Creature Cafe off-screen, especially since the episode was light on the action already (hey, I like the fights, I notice these things), but maybe this is indicative of a new direction for Angel, where he can withdraw when it's expedient, and let the firm mop up after. Or maybe I'm overthinking.

But the upshot of all these things was to make an episode that didn't really engage me personally. Not that I didn't enjoy it, I just wasn't overly into it. *shrugs* I guess you can't hit one out of the park every time.

A few more comments. No Eve. Let's hope this trend continues.

No Harmony, and I didn't even realize that until I thought about it later. Hmm.

Spike... Interesting developments in his little part of the world. So he's partially transparent now, and sometimes he is unaware of the material world when he is. Why is he so insistent no one but Fred know? Is it because he doesn't trust Angel and Wesley, or because he thinks he can manipulate Fred better? Is he really being sucked into Hell, or is this another story to play Fred? And how about those previews? Well, I'll be tuning in.

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[> [> 4 words for next week. -- Grim ,_,_), 10:29:38 10/16/03 Thu (66.95.229.84)

"Viewer discretion is advised"

The other three words for the ladies...

"Contains partial nudity"


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[> [> [> You know... -- Kuzibah, 10:31:51 10/16/03 Thu (12.175.117.195)

there's a rumor the partial nude in question will not be Spike, but Fred, but I can't help wonder what the hell the point of that would be?


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[> [> [> [> Ummm... -- Grim ,_,_), 10:37:51 10/16/03 Thu (66.95.229.84)

If that's true, there would be a few points. No curves. Just points.

Though I will say that it's about time. If I have to hear about NYPD Blue and their ugly butts one more time...


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[> [> [> [> [> I found Fred less annoying -- skinner, 11:32:56 10/16/03 Thu (198.73.106.129)

I was impressed when she hit Dr. Phlox with the lamp.


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[> [> [> [> [> [> I was actually snarking on her figure -- Kuzibah, 13:23:40 10/16/03 Thu (12.175.117.195)


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> What figure? -- Grim ,_,_), 14:28:49 10/16/03 Thu (66.95.229.84)


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[> [> [> [> [> a few points..... -- Trin, 04:58:30 10/21/03 Tue (66.8.86.77)

BWHAH HA HA HA!!!


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[> [> [> [> YES -- Anthony, 18:45:21 10/16/03 Thu (12.233.60.231)

YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES


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[> [> [> judging from the promo pics -- Simon, 11:06:38 10/17/03 Fri (193.61.148.113)

next week's episode will be graphic but not in the sense of nudity


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[> [> [> [> Well... -- Grim ,_,_), 11:08:59 10/17/03 Fri (66.95.229.84)

The promo put at the end of this episode had a disclaimer that next week's ep "contained partial nudity."

We'll see if it's that old, familiar Sputt again or perhaps Fripples. Anthony would seem to like that.


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[> [> This was the first episode I'd seen (even in part) all season. -- LTG, 12:12:52 10/16/03 Thu (141.211.253.127)

WW got moved, I guess.

Mo and I noted that the end felt very much like a WB family drama (including strummy guitars courtesy of Ryan Adams).

Which is okay, but not what I was expecting.

I kind of figured that the werewolfism was supposed to show the girls resentment with her position of babysitter, as a mirror for Angel's own conflicted emotions about his own family.

But who knows.


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