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Date Posted: 20:12:44 12/06/01 Thu
Author: Blue
Subject: Re: I don't know about you...
In reply to: KhaliG 's message, "Re: I don't know about you..." on 23:24:35 12/04/01 Tue

Sorry for the late reply. Got caught up in real life again. :)

>>Yeah, I keep going back and forth too. I just can't
>>help but think this storyline would have been great
>>with Darla esp. since she's so strongly tied to it.
>>Just doesn't make any .... oh well. No, I haven't
>>read that fic. Hm, I'm check it out! Thank you. :)
>
>You're welcome. :) Let's hope for come good flashbacks
>in the future.

Yeah!

>Yeah, that *does* sound a little too predictable and I
>agree with you, but something tells me that's what
>we're going to get regarding the way the storyline is
>planned. If I ha my way, I would move the story along
>by having maybe Wes or Gunn falling for Holtz's story
>and sort of becoming a stool pigeon at the same time.
>While Angel thinks Wes/Gunn will protect the baby, in
>reality they're thinking of ways to get rid of it, or
>some such thing. A little melodramatic, to be sure,
>but it could tie in with the story actions in That Old
>gang of Mine, where Gunn stood by and did nothing
>while innocent demons were getting slaughtered by his
>old crew.

Yeah, I agree that having someone from the gang involved in the Holtz plot would help considerably. But since that possible scenario has been hypothesized at various sites/boards, I think the writers won't pursue it. You never know though.

>oh, yeah, I agree with that. What would have made
>Offspring a bit better for me would have been if we
>had gotten Darla's point of view for most of the
>episode. The first half was heavily Angel/Cordy,
>nothing wrong with that, but aside from the Darla
>breakdown at the Discovery Zone playcenter, that ep
>just felt uneven. I guess what bothers me about this
>arc is that the pacing feels slightly rushed, we
>hardly got a true understnding of how darla and Angel
>truly felt, Lullaby was brilliant in that regard, and
>there have been no real explanations about the baby.
>I'm willing to say, "eh, who cares", regarding how the
>baby was concieved. Angel and Darla had sex, bringing
>forth Buster, 'nuff said is my motto.
>
>However, the story told in Lullaby is just the
>beginning, so I'm interested in how this all works
>out. As long as "The Kid" isn't super-aged, killed,
>or sent off to another dimension/the Burkles just so
>the writers can avoid having a baby on the set and in
>the story, everything else is fine by me.

Yeah, I love the baby. =)

>I just wish for the days when the
>>supporting characters got development in just plain
>>old episodes, any episodes, not episodes relegated to
>>"oh, this is my moment to shine. you step away now!"
>
>Lol. Nice thought, I've thought that too.

What's really sad is that in these character based episodes now, the character being focused on doesn't get much development. Season 1 of ANGEL had great character based episodes that still heavily involved the rest of the cast.

>>BtVS did this VERY well back in the days before season
>>4.
>
>I think BtVS is doing that well now, but then again,
>my mind is on Buffy/Spike/Dawn these days regarding
>the show.

If you love Xander you're pretty much left out in the cold. Xander fans have been shot in the heart since after season 3.

>Yeah, I know. That poor man needs something to do.I
>wish he could play a pivotal role in the arc, but the
>obvious one is the betrayer and that would just be a
>little too predictable.

Yeah. Sometimes I wonder why they made him a regular if they didn't know what to do with him or better yet want to write for him, because I get the feeling the writers just aren't inspired to write Gunn.

>She might be the baby's baby-sitter? That's good,
>right?

Better than Cordelia! lol

>What Cordy could use is a good dose of being in the
>non-supernatural world. heck, all of them could spend
>some quality time in the non-suprntural. There was
>once a time when Cordy wanted to become an actress.
>Shedosn't have to become a actress now, but it would
>be nice if we saw some real interaction with the human
>world. Date a little, have fun, be young! Cordy feels
>like she's already setting up shop as a forty-year-old
>spinister, when she is what? 20-21? If I were her, I
>would try to get involved in the human world as
>possible. It's great to save the world, but there
>comes a time when you actually have to experience the
>world you're saving.

You hit why Cordelia is lacking now because the Cordelia I knew even the one back in the latter part of season 1, made sure she was out and about in the real world. Now it just seems like she's not herself anymore. No acting, no shopping, no nothing.

>
>If anything, I think maybe the baby might be Angel's
>chance to have a stake in the fight against evil.
>Before, he had the company of his friends and his
>guilt, which are okay, but he really didn't have
>anything to truly *tie* him to the world. Buster is a
>definite tie to the world, since Angel will have a
>strong desire to save the world for future
>generations, for his grandchildren. I also think that
>with the arrival of Buster, we're going to see a more
>balanced, more determined Angel. Goofy!Angel was fun
>afor me to watch. I loved him during the Pylea arc,
>but I couldn't really take him seriously. As of
>Lullaby, I'm feeling his anguish, vulnerability, pain,
>and sense of humor all at once. I've never felt closer
>to the character before.

Yeah, I hope so. Hopefully he'll always be concerned about the baby and therefore making the world a better place for him.

>Darla was one tough cookie wasn't she? You know what,
>as long as Buster lives on the show, Darla lives on in
>him. We can take a little pleasure in that.

Very true. :)

>>Wesley? At least his character's been consistent more
>>than everyone else.
>
>Out of the entire MoG, Wesley gets top billing. I felt
>frhim in Billy.

Yeah, just wish he had more to do but alas at least he's still him!

>Like a wise man once said: Genius is 50% luck and 50%
>inspiration. ME was very lucky that when people look
>back over the history of BtVS, the story managed to
>fit with the story we see now.

Yep.

>Yeah, I know what you mean. last year, most people
>were skeptical of Angel/Cordy while I was waving
>pom-pomms for that ship. I was sweating bullets over
>whether Angel/Fred will come to pass. Now? I'm not
>waving the pom-poms as much anymore and some of the
>places I hang out now are pro-C/A. It's funny how
>things work out.

Very true. :)

>Whoa! I did *not* know that. The actress who plays
>Lana seems so worldly or at least mature for her
>character. She's a very pretty girl, though.

Very pretty! She's seems like a real person.

>Oh yes! I didn't know whether to be slightly freaked
>or bust out laughing every time Jody opened her mouth
>to suick the fat. Her mouth just looked weird to me. I
>was pleased with Pete wanting to go out with her. It's
>about time the character of pete got some definition.

That episode was confusing. I mean *how* did she consume other people's fat? And yuck! LOL. Pete needs so much more to do, but at least he's established since the beginning of the show.

>
>Yeah. I'm not big on the Superman comics and I am very
>relieved the writers aren't doing the cape and suit
>thing. I always thought it was corny.

Heheh!

Blue

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