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Date Posted: 11:40 24/10/24 Thu
Author: Cakewalk
Author Host/IP: 203-221-160-55.tpgi.com.au / 203.221.160.55
Subject: By the same token...
In reply to: Porter 's message, "What sort of qualifiers are those?" on 11:04 24/10/24 Thu

His output *could* have been better at Collingwood than St Kilda.

But I agree that you can't copy and paste his St Kilda stats and say that's what they would have been at Collingwood (or any other team).

He seems a desirable type for us at the moment. Whether he becomes our leading goalkicker in 2025 or not (probably doubtful, for mine. If Checkers and McStay are playing).

Good players tend to be good players regardless of who is and isn't around them. But how good depends on other factors like gameplan, role they play, and quality of teammates.

To date, Tim is statistically a good forward. Not a Coleman medalist. But good enough to get a look in to our forward line at least.

He's also 30 years old, so expecting him to improve significantly is probably unfair to him. But expecting him to be close to his St Kilda output, I don't think that's too unreasonable. He may play a different role at Collingwood but you'd expect would also have better delivery to him and more opportunities to score.

All will be revealed soon enough. Good luck to him

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Membrey missed games this year too -- Rocket surgeon, 12:43 24/10/24 Thu

It's so frustrating that we are STILL talking about these 30-40 goal per year forwards -- Chicken wing, 13:22 24/10/24 Thu

Genuine question, when was the last time the premier had a 70 goal or more forward? (NT) -- Optimax, 13:24 24/10/24 Thu
- Yeah, there is not much correlation anymore. It would still be a lot more exciting to watch though (NT) -- Chicken wing, 13:26 24/10/24 Thu
  - That's true (NT) -- Optimax, 13:30 24/10/24 Thu
  - It's a false assertion though, change the parameter to 60-70g or 100 shots. Amd you get more. (NT) -- Rodda83, 15:12 24/10/24 Thu
- Lloyd 2000 with 94, franklin 08 102 and Hwkins 2020 with 42 shorter season and games -- Optimax, 13:28 24/10/24 Thu
- Correct, the best forward lines lines spread the goal kickers and don't rely on one or two players (NT) -- Pyeman WPBD, 13:29 24/10/24 Thu
- Jez Cameron 65g 37p. 2022 Geelong. Tom Lynch 63g 31p 2019. Were close enough to 70g years. Plus -- Rodda83, 15:09 24/10/24 Thu
  - There's far too many nuances to really draw conclusions.... -- Two-Bob Man, 16:08 24/10/24 Thu
    - Yup fair call, just hate the down playing of KPF that goes on and overlooking of the stats (NT) -- Rodda83, 16:48 24/10/24 Thu
      - Yeah - understand that....you need to be kicking it to someone who can then do the job! (NT) -- TBM, 17:38 24/10/24 Thu
  - Tom Hawkins kicked 64 goals in 2022 as well (NT) -- Crimson Mask, 20:59 24/10/24 Thu

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