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Date Posted: 11:07 02/12/24 Mon
Author: Geek
Author Host/IP: NoHost / 147.161.213.98
Subject: He was a very system based coach. It seems to be a thing in a lot of sports now
In reply to: Porter 's message, "The Collingwood Qualification." on 16:04 30/11/24 Sat

We've all gotten sick to different levels of the talk about playing to a system and knowing your role and so on. This was pretty much Buckley's mantra as a coach. "Knowing how we want to play" and so on.

Been following a lot more soccer lately and the discussions around Pep Guardiola and his strict team rules. There's a famous story about his talented winger Greilish doing something brilliant and then getting punished for not playing his role.

Not too many managers out there are as full on as Pep with the systems thing but it is the way the sport in general has gone. Fans talk about 2006 being the pinnacle of the sport when you still had guys like Ronaldinho allowed to strut their stuff and light up the field with ridiculous displays of skill but how now, everyone knows to pass before the defender gets within 5 or 10 metres. They all know each others running patterns. They are all drilled to within an inch of their lives. I kinda agree that it has diminished the spectacle somewhat.

Buckley was sent around the world as part of his apprenticeship, studying the latest trends at the time in coaching. He clearly picked up a bit of this 'modern way' and then came in as a novice coach and tried to implement it with a largely resentful, bordering on hostile playing list. Little wonder he struggled.

Then there was that one year when, like Fly did later, he unshackled his squad somehow. Went within a kick of a flag. Then lost the dare again. THAT was the inexplicable thing for me, though I think that Stevo not coming on had an underrated effect on our game. Our first quarters were often great while he still had gas, then we'd fade as we lost that electric pace in the F50. Once he got done for gambling the whole thing collapsed into that turgid shitshow we endured for the 2.5 years. There were other reason, sure but Stevo is a factor not given enough credit imv.

I think that footy at the AFL level does lend itself to systems strategy. Obviously it's a non-negotiable these days. Without good, strong systems you will lose. However, you are taking about 36+10 guys running around a field a few acres in size and to try and manage that for 2 hours in the heat of battle is probably asking too much. They will screw up and to the tune of 80,000 baying fans, go into their shells. THere needs to be ample room to 'wing it.' We saw this ourselves even under fly with us trying to save games in '24 vs rolling the dice late, even in the same season.

Also: Remember that the whole point of our boys taking a mark in Buckley's days and immediately looking sideways and back was to a) look for the overlap runner (who all to often wasn't coming through) or b) move the defense with an intelligent switch. We were so scared of our understrength forwards after Trav declined that we spent all day trying to give it to them on a silver platter and murdering them in the process.

We did have excellent defensive structures in place. That is acknowledged by all. I don't think that we were a defensive midset though. Just weak up forward and then using the wrong philosophy when going through the middle.

Now I'm no fan of BuckleyBall. The above shouldn't be read as an endorsement in any way, but yeah - I can see what he was trying to achieve and, in spite of what the result looked like, the intent wasn't all about defense

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