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Date Posted: 16:38:01 04/10/06 Mon
Author: JB
Subject: Re: When we float down the river, I wonder will I lose you
In reply to: Julia 's message, "When we float down the river, I wonder will I lose you" on 12:34:16 02/12/05 Sat

>When we float down the river
>I wonder will I lose you
>
>Ok, an a bit controversial topic. I love John, but
>won�t let my feelings play into this matter. Did John
>Frusciante give River the speedball he died of?
>Barry�s book says so. Barry isn't just someone who
>wants to get profits from writing a River book and
>sensationalise many stuff, but he did an advanced
>research on the book and talked with numerous
>coworkers, friends and certain members of River�s
>family.
>Despite witnesses the book also provides proof for me,
>because in a text that quotes John, River�s father, he
>says that a) the person who gave River the drugs was
>23 in 1994 (John), b) the person is rich (John) and c)
>the person was taken to rehab by River. Now I heard
>that John Frusciante was taken to rehab by River and
>River paid for it. River tried to save John and was
>pulled into it all by him. River�s father said he was
>like �do drugs, do drugs�. An unsympathetic remark
>John made was that it�s a shame that River has been
>born rather than he died cuz he hated this
>place�knowing that it�s partly Mr. Frusciante�s
>responsibility that River died. Okay, River didn�t
>have to accept the speedball from him, but to offer
>him this pure poison�he didn�t know how high the dose
>in the speedball was, but still�John could have
>protected River by trying his speedball out first, but
>on the other hand that would mean John wouldn�t be
>here anymore too and I�m glad John is with us.
>I think River was angry at John when he noticed what
>shit John had given him and said: �What the fuck is
>that shit?�, but meanwhile I�d like to think that
>River has forgiven John. Their close friendship
>continues on, on a spiritual level, like Barry�s book
>states in the chapter the mythical and mystical River.
>It is even said that John channels River�s spirit to
>get song ideas. I think there are a whole lot of songs
>that are inspired by John�s feelings towards River,
>e.g. from the song �I�m around you� on the album
>�Inside of emptiness�: �You know I'm around you, I
>wouldn't be if I didn�t love you, I'm going to run
>through you.� and: �And couldn�t we get a second
>chance, to go back and start over,
>I was thinking before, that it was all my fault��
>Another example where John�s lyrics (�Interior Two�)
>seem to be aimed at River:
>
>Why don�t you come on back again
>I hear our song in the wind
>I see clouds laughing insane
>I hear our song in the wind
>I see clouds laughing again
>We fall into forever's lap
>�
>And we endlessly come on back
>Wherever did we find this night
>I'll come back in another life
>Why don�t you come back over again
>Won't you come back over
>
>Or �Loss� from �Will To Death�:
>
>Now that I'm gone
>Now that I'm long gone
>This minute has come and gone
>I never said to do anything but forget me
>I can't be lost
>
>Maybe I�m interpreting in it too much, but what are
>your thoughts on this?
>John made a big mistake and River paid for it. John
>was more fucked up than River. I read several books on
>River and River was a controlled drug user who was
>clean for a while. River�s mistake was to trust John.
I was very young at the time of rivers death (i was only 2 or 3) but what your saying would make since. If you could contact me and tell me what book you read this out of or just send me the text it would be appreciated. I do think however that being the person John is he probablly would have come out and said something about himself being involved in River's death. (Unless he couldn't remeber it.)

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