Re: Okay, I re-read your original post. -- The Big West Beat Forum

[ Show ]

Support VoyForums

[ Shrink ]

VoyForums Announcement: Programming and providing support for this service has been a labor of love since 1997. We are one of the few services online who values our users' privacy, and have never sold your information. We have even fought hard to defend your privacy in legal cases; however, we've done it with almost no financial support -- paying out of pocket to continue providing the service. Due to the issues imposed on us by advertisers, we also stopped hosting most ads on the forums many years ago. We hope you appreciate our efforts.

Show your support by donating any amount. (Note: We are still technically a for-profit company, so your contribution is not tax-deductible.) PayPal Acct: Feedback:

Donate to VoyForums (PayPal):

[ Login ] [ Contact Forum Admin ] [ Main index ] [ Post a new message ] [ Search | Check update time | Archives: 1 ]

[ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

Date Posted: 23:11:07 11/13/01 Tue
Author: GauchoFreg
Subject: Re: Okay, I re-read your original post.
In reply to: BMF 's message, "Okay, I re-read your original post." on 13:30:40 11/13/01 Tue

>Okay..., I re-read your original post. I think I
>agree with you that UCSB has a lot of potential for
>generating long-term loyal support that can withstand
>short term sub par performances on the court or field
>(Attendance & financial donations). Your three
>reasons are solid.
>
>However, I take exception to your #1 point where you
>cited IV as being an advantage - assumming that the
>college community that it is can provide financial
>support. IV may very well be a separate community and
>indeed provide a college town environment. BUT, if
>there are few alumni there..., or few residents that
>can say they are "rooted" there (we're talking long
>term residents with little inclination to leave and
>have vested interested in the long term future of the
>community - we'll say 'established'), there is very
>little potential present to generate a strong base for
>financial donations to the extent of
>building/rebuilding facilities or augmenting existing
>scholarship funds. For this, you'd have to look to a
>larger area and include SB.
>
>I am not saying UCSB does not have the potential... I
>am saying UCSB would have to include SB as it's base -
>not rely on IV.
>
>BTW, how big is IV and what proportion are either UCSB
>or community college students? If I am correct, this
>proportion is VERY high. If it is VERY high, are
>there enough established people that have a vested
>interest in the community that can provide a large
>enough base to support UCSB athletics by way of
>attendance and financial donations - even when
>performance on the court or field is sub par over a
>period of time?
>
----------------------------------------------------
Ok, now I've heard you restate your position and now I think that we are in complete agreement! My argument for the positives of I.V. was that it helped foster a close relationship between student & school. However, as you correctly observed, UCSB alumni move away from IV (and from SB for that matter) so in fact it is a disadvantage in that the alumni are no longer in the area.
In fact, giving it more thought, the LA area schools are far more likely to have alumni living in the vicinity of their university as compared to UCSB, Cal Poly, or Pacific. Hence for these LA area schools it is at least more convenient for alumni to actually attend these games. So even though UCSB may have alumni passionate about the school and hoops team, we live a hundred or more miles away from the school and can't make an impact on attendance.
So UCSB is reliant on student & local population attendance, which for both groups, rises & falls with the team's record.

To answer your question about the population of IV, it has been a while since I've lived there so I'm really making a guess, but I believe it is about 15-20 thousand. And you are correct again in that a significant portion of the student population are City College students, I won't even try to make a guess at that #.

[ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]