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Date Posted: 09:22:58 11/13/01 Tue
Author: BMF
Subject: Re: IV, SB
In reply to: zzzza 's message, "Re: IV, SB" on 20:29:09 11/12/01 Mon

I think we disagree. And if you're fine agreeing to disagree..., then I think we'll get along just fine.

My supposition is that BWC schools needs loyal support. To me, loyalty exhibits itself with continued attendance and financial support (donations) regardless of short term sub-par performance on the court or field. I think paramount to achieving a loyal support base is increasing/strengthening alumni relations.

Yes, you know the ins and outs of IV. I do not. But I think my view remains true. That regardless of the semi-captive audience in IV, STUDENT attendance & financial support wains substantially with performance on the court or field. I think that is true at 98% percent of the college campus's with respect to student attendance. Heck, do students even donate to an athletic program? Probably not.

I think UCSB has A LOT of potential to generate community wide and alumni support. By support, I mean financial donations to the affect to build/rebuild facilties. But, I don't think it will come from IV. Students have high hopes and desires..., but not the cash. They also relocate out of the area in 4-6 years time.

Long term loyalty comes from people that have committed themselves to an area for several years. They have very little inclination to pick up and move. Call them established if you will..., but not students. They are from teh community (I'd argue SB) and the are alumni (also in SB).

>I want to agree with you..., but I am having
>trouble with your comment - that IV is a college town.
> I see IV as being apart of SB.
>
>Not even close. IV is very much different from SB and,
>as anyone who has driven/walked it's streets at 1 AM
>can attest, is definitely a college town. It is
>virtually all student (both UCSB and SBCC) and is the
>most densely populated area in SB county. It starts
>literally 50 yards from the Thunderdome, which is one
>reason that IV support is so good.
>
>And with that in mind, I don't see UCSB as having a
>significant advantage/potential over anybody except
>those with a commuter school reputation. Shall I say
>Fullerton?
>
>Not even close again. UCSB does have a good base of
>support (or potential support) from the actual city of
>SB. Unlike Poly, there are still a lot of grads in the
>area. Like Freg (I think?) said though, athletics
>hasn't always been the outlet for alumni support, so a
>tradition needs to be developed. It'll take some
>winning to do that at first. It's too bad that the
>men's basketball program was allowed to "rot on the
>vine" for so many years because now things sort of
>have to start over.

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Replies:

I agree -- zzzza, 07:06:36 11/14/01 Wed
Re: IV, SB -- El Gaucho, 10:53:23 11/17/01 Sat
- College Cuties? -- zzzza, 16:18:57 11/18/01 Sun
  - Re: College Cuties? -- El Gaucho, 10:24:22 11/19/01 Mon