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Date Posted: 18:51:05 11/25/01 Sun
: Men are from Mars...Women are from Venus?
Post Date: 10/2/2001 10:35:32 AM (Eastern USA) Edit
Author: Leggy
Women are so complex and men so straight forward and simple.
HER SIDE OF THE STORY
He was in an odd mood when I got to the bar, I thought it might have been my fault because I was a bit late but he didn't say anything much about it.
The conversation was quite slow going so I thought we should go off somewhere more intimate so we could talk more privately. We went to this restaurant and he was STILL acting a bit funny. I tried to cheer him up and started to wonder whether it was me or something else. I asked him, and he said no. But I wasn't really sure.
So anyway, in the cab on the way back to his house, I said that I loved him and he just put his arm around me. I didn't know what the hell that meant because you know he doesn't say it back or anything. We finally got back to his place and I was wondering if he was going to dump me! So I tried to ask him about it but he just switched on the TV. Reluctantly, I said I was going to go to sleep.
Then after about 10 minutes, he joined me and we had sex. But, he still seemed really distracted, so afterwards I just wanted to leave but I just cried myself to sleep. I dunno, I just don't know what he thinks anymore. I
mean, do you think he's met someone else???
(his side of the story below)
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HIS SIDE OF THE STORY
My team lost. Felt Kinda Tired. Got laid though.
Post Date: 10/2/2001 11:03:29 AM (Eastern USA) Edit
Author: Suzanne
LOL Leggy ... too funny !!!
Post Date: 10/2/2001 2:16:10 PM (Eastern USA) Edit
Author: Pilgrim
Slogan: Forever Eh - Musing
i tend not to agree with the way we label groups, wht=ether by gender ethnicity, etc.
too simplistic and doesn't allow for the learning and understanding that can be exchanged between two.
have found myself very open lately to understanding how she may feel about some things or issues..... at times i share the same feeling...hence no mars/venus dichotomy...and at others, we differ, mostly from separate experiences, and less because i am male and she female (and a very lovely and yummy female too, i may add LOL).
just kinda of avoid classifying people...and i have been so very much impacted becuase of this.
...for what it's worth .... toss in 50 cents and i can get a coffee
Post Date: 10/2/2001 4:57:51 PM (Eastern USA) Edit
Author: Leggy
Geeeeez.....are you pms'ing today, Pilgrim? It was a JOKE....LIGHTEN UP!!!
Post Date: 10/2/2001 7:35:03 PM (Eastern USA) Edit
Author: jason
my Pilgrim translator seems to be malfunctioning.
can anyone send me an explanation on what was said so i can comment?
thanks.....
Post Date: 10/2/2001 9:43:38 PM (Eastern USA) Edit
Author: Pilgrim
Slogan: Forever Eh - Musing
touche?
hey Leggy? pass the tampons ok?
Post Date: 10/2/2001 10:31:42 PM (Eastern USA) Edit
Author: POTSMOKINDUDE
Well that was a pretty rude comment do me a favor ,,,, keep those comments to yourself please
Post Date: 10/2/2001 10:43:33 PM (Eastern USA) Edit
Author: Wolfbane
Slogan: "Fascinating, Captain"
Now if I could only find a "Universal Understanderlator", so that I MIGHT be able to unnerstand those damned Venusians. **sigh**
Post Date: 10/2/2001 10:48:25 PM (Eastern USA) Edit
Author: Leggy
PSD...babe...I can look after myself...*laughing* And Pilgrim...I'm not pms'ing...I'm this way ALL the time!
Post Date: 10/3/2001 3:36:53 PM (Eastern USA) Edit
Author: jason
or maybe a PMS indicator to know when the fuck to stay away.....
Post Date: 10/3/2001 6:06:51 PM (Eastern USA) Edit
Author: tamara
LMAO @ you all!!! Leggy that was so true though. Women think with their hearts and men think with there ummmmm....stomachs....I mean their ummm... you know hahaha Most men are very rational.
But honestly, women are much more complex...men, I will clarify that, most men let things just roll right off their back....5 - 10 min can pass and they forgot what they were fighting about...women like to lament...think...rethink...dwell...harbor...analyze..draw complicated conclusions from simplistic actions...In other words, women like to make mountains out of mole hills...and men just like to eat, sleep,drink and an occasional blow job..lol Oh am I going to take a lashing for that one..lol
Post Date: 10/3/2001 7:22:17 PM (Eastern USA) Edit
Author: jason
i believe the word you're stumbling for is yaya, tam.
and i don't let things roll off MY back....i stew in it all day until i yell at my supervisor and get sent home for the day...nothing like a little displaced anger to make one feel like a.......man i guess.
oh.....and i don't enjoy blowjobs.
Post Date: 10/3/2001 9:18:29 PM (Eastern USA) Edit
Author: chaz
Slogan: hhhmmmm ... ya ya
PMS
P retty
M uch
S tandard
..and I don't enjoy blowjobs either...but I CAN FAKE IT
P.S... Have bridge on nice Nevada oceanfront for $ale ...
Post Date: 10/3/2001 9:39:08 PM (Eastern USA) Edit
Author: tam
LMAO Jason....if you notice, I said MOST men...you are one of the ones that does not apply too....actually had you in mind..hehehe
Still can't get over....a man not liking a blow job....I'm thinking you haven't had very good oral performers...come to me Jason....we'll see if you still have that opinion
Post Date: 10/3/2001 10:58:18 PM (Eastern USA) Edit
Author: Pilgrim
Slogan: Forever Eh - Musing
LOL Leggy...i am glad as apparently you got it...the tampons were for me, eh?
and psd ? do you ever...nah, forget it
Post Date: 10/3/2001 11:19:12 PM (Eastern USA) Edit
Author: jason
ahhhh tam...we both know you're a cock tease....so if i come to you it's not gonna get me anything....cept maybe some blue balls...lol
but thanks for makin me laugh.....i needed that tonight.
Post Date: 10/4/2001 4:53:11 AM (Eastern USA) Edit
Author: Kev
Slogan: makes sense to me
knew what you meant, Pil
I think you just have a different way of saying things- I know we have misunderstood each other in the past, eh?
*cheers*
Post Date: 10/4/2001 6:35:24 AM (Eastern USA) Edit
Author: kEVIL
Pre
Male
Suicide
Post Date: 10/4/2001 11:21:15 AM (Eastern USA) Edit
Author: Suzanne
hmmm ... been thinking of this topic a lot ... our differences are supposed to be what draws us together yet, we seem to point at the differences between the genders rather than embrace them and appreciate them? Is it cause we fear what we don't know personally, or that our experiences in life dominant our view of the other gender?
Generally, I agree, women are more emotive and nurturing naturally, however, in these times don't you see how often the boundaries of tradition are overstepped and men are free to show their nurturing natures and women their decision making abilities in the business world?
I guess we have not learned to embrace the difference we see?
btw tam? was Jason's response aggressive offensive, or tintillating to ya ? lol
Post Date: 10/4/2001 1:22:30 PM (Eastern USA) Edit
Author: POTSMOKINDUDE
I know this is gonna piss some of the girls off,,, but ,Here goes,,, YOU WOMEN ARE NUTS !!!!!! absolutly CRAZY (lol) us guys can't figure you out ,,,you just don't make sense sometimes ,,,,,it's not your fault ,,, you were born that way(lol) ,,,,,,,, You girls just dont think like us ,,,,its not a bad thing ,,, I get a bigkick out of it,,,, it dosen't bother me like it does some guys,,,, you girls drive some of us guys nuts ,,, make us want to kick our best friends ass,, punch walls do the stupidest things (just heard about an old friend driving his car through his girlfriends front porch) <--- jerk ,,,, but it's not just the girls,,,,,, we do it to them too,,, they can't figure us out either (example : my cousin Laura asks her husband Ron to carry a table upstairs and put it an empty room ,,,Ron takes the table walks up the stairs, and places the table in the middle of the empty room) I guaranty that 90 % of you girls would think that was the wrong place to leave that table,,,,and I know thats where every guy would put it ,,,,, We just think differently !!! you know ,,,,,,Guys play with GI JOE,,,Girls play with BARBIE ,,,,,,, Guys like to work on cars,,,,Girls think "put gas in it ,,it goes" ,,,,, Guys like to watch ballgames on tv,,,,,,,Girls like to watch soap operas,,,,,, OOOPS I watch soap operas,,(looking down checking myself) lol ,,,,,,,To tell the truth as I'm getting older I seem to be understanding women more and more ,,,,, I guess that has to do with me mostly having women as friends ,,,online as well as in real life ,,,,,,you know ,,I found a little trick to understanding the opposite sex,,,, It's called listening ,,,if you listen you can learn alot ,,listening leads to understanding,,, and Suzanne is right we should embrace the differences !!!
Post Date: 10/4/2001 1:52:37 PM (Eastern USA) Edit
Author: Leggy
PSD, are you going through like..some sort of "change" or something? Or wait...are the painkillers getting to ya? Cause I've known you for awhile...and I've never known you to be so "wordy". But I must say...I kinda like it.
Now...regarding the differences between males and females...ummm...YEAH! I'm 100% female (shut your mouth, jason), but have often been accused of acting like a male simply because I'm the one who normally takes things lightly...and appear not to be too "deep" unless I know someone really well.
I'm against stereotyping by gender...but I have to confess that I do enjoy a guy being a "guy". I like for him to do "guy" things....you know, like....adjusting the bulge in his pants while everyone watches....just so I can act utterly disgusted (when I'm really kinda intrigued). I don't like for guys to whine or cry...definite turn off for me...I don't whine (I don't think)...and I RARELY cry.
So is not wanting a "sensitive" guy politically incorrect? HELL YEAH....but who cares...I want what I want...WHEN I want it....cause....I'm a GIRL! HA!
Post Date: 10/4/2001 2:02:22 PM (Eastern USA) Edit
Author: Leggy
Jason doesn't care for blowjobs because he thinks no one is as good at it as HE is...*laughing*
Post Date: 10/4/2001 2:11:03 PM (Eastern USA) Edit
Author: jason
you're just jealous cause i had to give YOU tips.
Post Date: 10/4/2001 2:12:01 PM (Eastern USA) Edit
Author: Leggy
I wasn't jealous...I just wanted the whole thing, damnit....not just the "tip"....*frowny*
Post Date: 10/4/2001 2:12:48 PM (Eastern USA) Edit
Author: jason
sorry but your mouth is too small for my manhood.
Post Date: 10/4/2001 2:23:45 PM (Eastern USA) Edit
Author: silky blonde lady
Slogan: live,laugh, love fully...now "listening"
For a long time, I didn't think guys thought/felt the way women do. Thought guys were "oh so macho"...
Then one night, I went to a get together that turned into a discussion about relationships. It amazed me that the guys were the ones talking about how they had been hurt. How they still loved an ex. I had started by saying I loved being single, and wasn't looking for committment. I was stopped short as I listened to each guy who spoke, talk about someone he had loved and lost. Really made me pause, and reflect.
Then I remembered my bro, when his gf of four years broke up with him and moved away. He was so quiet for months, and lost a ton of weight. And he was such a cocky sorta guy. Student body pres, basketball player etc. Saw a totally different side of him when she left.
Recently, I have listened to three men talk about the "love of their lives". Women, they simply could not forget/get over. Subject opened simply and surprisingly because 'something' in my appearance had reminded them??? Each recalled in detail what happened; how it started, where it went wrong. One in particular was the man who installed my tile last week. His heartbreak ocurred twenty years ago..yet for some reason, still needed to talk about the experience.
Yet, when I talk to my women friends,they are no longer wanting their ex's.Really, the are glad to be out of the relationship, or already in a new one.Moving on, forward, without really looking back much at all.
This is merely an observation, but, it has made me become much more sensitive to men, and their feelings. Even though not always obviously apparent, seems the feelings ARE definitely there, and deep.
And the women, "the emotional ones" just keep on,,,keeping on".
Post Date: 10/5/2001 1:40:47 AM (Eastern USA) Edit
Author: Suzanne
Ahhh ..guess what y'all .. ? I had the most glorious day cause a male* friend called me on the phone and he began to brainstorm ways I can fight back before the mediation. He got me so hyped up, my pen was flying across the page taking notes, then he called again this evening to just touch base and encourage me again. He has had to fight all* his life and boy does he have great ideas? Go figure! One man tears me down and that man had all the practical tools that made my life a bit easier in some respects: COMMON SENSE? lol Now facing that man's change of heart* and desire to put me second place and give up his commitment to 'take' care of me, another man steps in and encourages me to help myself?
I am embracing the differences. LOL when I told this fellow how* grateful and thankful I am in my gushing manner of course, lol, he had to defer the feelings, as most men do when they don't know how to accept emotive thanks and of course? lol He wanted to make sure* I was not AFTER his body to phone sex him, lol, another common male thought? I heard a huge sigh* when I said hey? come on now? lol ...
IT IS GOOD to have MALE friends! I am very happy tonight.
Now about embracing the difference?
HUGS y'all ..
Remarkably, today, I can laugh and tease and not take that thinking seriously nor take offense to it. Maybe you men online are rubbing off on me after all and changing my male view?
Post Date: 10/5/2001 8:43:37 AM (Eastern USA) Edit
Author: tallcoolone
Men, as you dear women know, are the same as dogs only slightly more civilized. And if you understand a dog’s philosophy of life, you are that much closer to understanding men.
You ask what is a dog’s philosophy of life?
It is really very simple, if you can’t eat it or screw it, you pi## on it. Life is not all that complicated, LOL.
Post Date: 10/5/2001 8:59:15 AM (Eastern USA) Edit
Author: tam
Suzanne....I expected that response from Jason...it made me laugh...so I found it humorous. He loves that I'm a tease...he just won't admit it..lol
btw...loved the enthusiasm in your recent post.....good luck to you!!
Post Date: 10/5/2001 9:31:10 AM (Eastern USA) Edit
Author: Suzanne
lol tallcoolone ... also recall that if * I scratch a dog between the ears, it will lap with tongue, but* if I touch and scratch at tail connection on back, hmmm dog wriggles, rolls over and wants it all** meaning, of course, the tummy scratch lol ..
tam ! thank you not giving up but really ready to kick ass* (hope my knee bends the right way lol )
Post Date: 10/5/2001 10:32:43 AM (Eastern USA) Edit
Author: Leggy
Good for you, Suze....you GO, girl!
Personally, I think that both males and females enjoy the opposite sex being somewhat elusive. I know that I enjoy a "challenge" and the thrill of the chase is pretty stimulating.
Post Date: 10/5/2001 11:30:13 AM (Eastern USA) Edit
Author: tallcoolone
Suzanne, I think you have it...keep it simple, lol
Post Date: 10/8/2001 3:07:45 AM (Eastern USA) Edit
Author: Suzanne
doh **** me? Simple ? Doh !! lmao
Been in major strategy sessions all weekend loong .. Hey? How's this for intimidation. We have this most wonderful fella/ policeman, Jim, as an elder/ deacon? in our church. He is a high ranking Miami policeman ... recent huge promotion, and is a pussycat, but when you LOOK at him *bald head, fierce countenance, and usually with folded arms* well he is intimidating. IDEA? Ask Jim to come with me to mediation to be my silent buddy* ...
YIKES hope he could come lol ...
Jim Doesn't smile very often lol .. and erm .. his wife's ex was a man similar to my ex ... and he cannot understand, he mentioned to me at church once, how when* that particular man is around his *usually very strong wife* changes / becomes frightened. Sigh.. guess some things are just ingrained over time eh ?
scratching my fleas ... please don't ring a bell* or I will jump through hoops and fetch your slippers and chew em up !!!
Post Date: 10/8/2001 10:46:39 AM (Eastern USA) Edit
Author: Leggy
Welcome back suze...hope you had a good weekend.
Post Date: 10/8/2001 8:05:38 PM (Eastern USA) Edit
Author: BIG BLACKMAN
Slogan: LOVE HAS NO COLOR
HEY LEGGY, BIG BLACKMAN JUST CHECKING HERE. I READ YOUR STORY OF HIS AND HER VERSIONS. IF YOU WROTE THAT STORY I CAN ONLY SAY "FINALLY!!!!! THERE'S A LADY WHO GETS IT"
I LOVE YOU, LEGGY..........MARRY ME!!!!!
Post Date: 10/8/2001 8:17:51 PM (Eastern USA) Edit
Author: BIG BLACKMAN
Slogan: LOVE HAS NO COLOR
HEY SILKY BLONDE, I'LL LET YOU IN ON A LITTLE SECRET ABOUT MEN: AFTER THE PRIDE AND THE MACHO PHASES, THEN WE BEGAN TO DEAL WITH THE TRUE FEELINGS AND ISSUES (IF IT'S WORTH DEALING WITH). WOMEN ON THE OTHER HAND, HAVE ALREADY DONE THAT, NIPPED IT AND ARE READY FOR THE NEXT DICK THAT COMES ALONG AND RUBS HER THE RIGHT WAY.
Post Date: 10/8/2001 10:57:36 PM (Eastern USA) Edit
Author: Leggy
Hey Mr. Blackman...*kiss*
I'm afraid I'll have to see the ring first.
Post Date: 10/8/2001 10:58:37 PM (Eastern USA) Edit
Author: Suzanne
Hi there Leggy and Gang !
Had an uneventful weekend, sigh* Picked up a tummy virus from my buddy, David, who I watched today for five hours!!
Had company Friday night and Saturday stayed inside playing games ALL day long with gf ... (becoming master at cards, dice, and word cubes, n scrabble! lol) and, arghhhh... *running back n forth to loo* Yuck!
It rained a lot* last week. Roof decided to leak? So, today, hired a neighbor carpenter to repair my roof! Lugged David to Mega Hardware store and we bought 10 gallons of white goobly gook that is like rubber ? lol .. and some blue mesh stuff to fill in cracks and roller .. sigh and $100 later came back here to fix dinner for us all.
what a delight being a homeowner? lol ... even a mobile home arghhh ... Little by little am decorating / painting and replacing walls floors and fixing up outside .. shoot .. I am nearly building a new place lmao lmao...
so Jose, (hispanic with great hazel eyes from Central America) pressure cleaned the roof ... and I painted my steps again (sand in paint to cause a non slip grid) ... compliments of watching the HOME CHANNEL
Just call me WOOF ROOF LADY now lol ..actually I am having a blast doing all this rennovation and decorating... painting old things and making em fit into my decor ... I love taking someone else's junk and making it a prize for my use 'n enjoyment! lol ... Now, mind you my furniture is leather: sofa n chairs ..but ... I hate the stuff* they sell as coffee tables etc so I look for unusual pieces at garage sales, or by curbs for bulk pickup, and if the design is in my taste I fix it up like brand new ... mostly small wooden pieces however, not stuffed furniture. If anyone wants some tips, Just RING ME lol ... I am becoming very efficient at pinching pennies ... giggling ...
Well, GANG lmao !!! I am becoming Suzie Homemaker again so I can make up for "lack" of love life ... made a great bean soup with Grace tonight? Is setting in refrigerator and tomorrow night we are having for dinner!!! Anyone care to join us ?
Post Date: 10/8/2001 11:03:17 PM (Eastern USA) Edit
Author: Suzanne
Woof! Me again ...
erm ... maybe, just maybe, this lady is a Mars-Venus blend ? *wink* ...
hammer n paint .. sew n crochet ..
? what ya think ? Could there be a happy blend in one person alone?
Post Date: 10/8/2001 11:54:49 PM (Eastern USA) Edit
Author: Wolfbane
Slogan: Mars and Venus?? hmmmm
What's wrong with a little (OK, maybe not SOOOOO little) differences between sexes?
OK...so there are things like
"NO" means "YES"....sometimes.
"Yes" means "OK, but you aren't going to hear the end of it"
"Silence" means absolute trouble AND it's all the guy's fault (always is...even if it isn't) AND if he doesn't KNOW what's wrong, he'd better become a mind-reader real fucking quick..
..and TEARS...if we don't get the correct reason (out of a possible 1,346, 221) in the very first try, the world comes to a freakin halt.
The differences between men and women are a joy to behold and should be relished and cherished to the end of time. (I was told to say that....I received several threatening Emails telling me to put that part in....if I knew what was good for me)
Post Date: 10/9/2001 2:23:03 AM (Eastern USA) Edit
Author: passion
Slogan: Once a friend always a friend
lmao
Post Date: 10/9/2001 8:34:03 AM (Eastern USA) Edit
Author: LegCuttaayyyyyy
Ellusive? Did someone say Ellusive?
Post Date: 10/9/2001 10:00:03 AM (Eastern USA) Edit
Author: Leggy
I would never say "ellusive" when I could say it correctly....ELUSIVE! Hey Cuttaayyyyyy! Miss you...hope things are good.
Wolfie...ROFL !!!!
Post Date: 10/10/2001 1:05:33 AM (Eastern USA) Edit
Author: Suzanne
Wolfbane? very funny
Ok sigh * No ONE SHOWED up but my friends here and Soup is ALL gone !!
tossing the sourdough bread crumbs out to the UGLY ducks who dump in my yard!!! Giggles: laced bread with viagra!!! woo hoo Need to take pictures tomorrow lol ...
Duck Orgy ?
Post Date: 10/10/2001 1:13:13 AM (Eastern USA) Edit
Author: Dazed and Confuzed
new play on duck soup?
Post Date: 10/10/2001 6:38:10 AM (Eastern USA) Edit
Author: Pilgrim
Slogan: :) Forever Eh - Musing
duck a la orgy?
Post Date: 10/10/2001 9:50:24 AM (Eastern USA) Edit
Author: tam
Slogan: Can't Live without us
LMAO Wolf...I can tell you are very experienced with women...lol You are so right...every bit of it. I'm a woman ...I should know..lol It's so bad sometimes....I don't even have a clue as to how I'm going to react next...lol
Post Date: 10/10/2001 11:45:11 AM (Eastern USA) Edit
Author: Suzanne
LOL yah Duck a la Orgy ... Now those are the pics* I see of sex ...
Still wondering why the two stop in middle of the road to 'do the deed' ??
sigh* this voyeur is putting down field glasses now ** need microscope to see if the male is circumcized
LOL ... I just 'love' seeing how easy it is to stimulate the males ** (ok, so the female duck is grinning too .. sigh ) hmmm .. am I a matchmaker for ducks?
Post Date: 10/10/2001 11:51:34 AM (Eastern USA) Edit
Author: Suzanne
Life is getting really rough here sigh ** ... Last night I drove down my street, coming back from church, and stopped to say hi to a couple of teenagers, and "one" YOUNGUN lifted up a slip of paper laughingly, "hey Mrs. H, this fortune says you will soon have a love affair" then he nearly fell over in laughter ... YIKES!! there is a conspiracy afoot !!! Everyone knows but me!!! lol
Post Date: 10/10/2001 11:59:51 AM (Eastern USA) Edit
Author: silky blonde lady
Slogan: live, laugh, love fully...
TY BBM...when a woman moves on...she's ready to party ( I hear ya).
Wolfie, Wolfie, Wolfie...have you always
been so brilliant? Got it down to a T.
LOL (and sometimes i even feel sorry for the guy lmao)
Suz...another topic...??? Who is he,,,YET to be? *winks*
Post Date: 10/10/2001 10:36:27 PM (Eastern USA) Edit
Author: Suzanne
Lol silky blonde ... No one at all in the works here ... I am shut down, doing my own thang, talking to friends online a lil, working around the house, preparing my big thrust in court, (lol), and being a basically boring person. IF there is someone he and I don't know it lol ... this kid was joshing with me! And, as I drove away and looked in rear view mirror I saw them all laughing ... It is just kind of funny how even the teenagers are talking about 'love affairs' Or, could they recognize I am all alone and they want to ... NAH ... It is just something in the air ... giggles
... hmmm ... I do wonder what this all means? We can call "him" YET TO BE eh? nodding my head at silky for coining my next ploy in chat. Hey? I have to find something amusing for the troops there Or they will try to cyber me lmao lmao ... and I will have to yet again say, NO NO NO ... NEVER again !!!
Post Date: 10/10/2001 11:09:16 PM (Eastern USA) Edit
Author: silky blonde lady
Slogan: live, laugh, love fully...
Hey suz...let me tell you a lil secret...there is NUTTIN boring about you gf...got it? And..never say NEVER.
Keep on...keeping on!! //thumbsup
Post Date: 10/11/2001 12:44:51 AM (Eastern USA) Edit
Author: Suzanne
Thanks silky blonde ... You are always so uplifting
I just had the most *** wonderful *** chat with some stranger I will probably never see again and guess what we talked bout?
LOLOLOL ... Our common faith and the book that holds our attention. It was not a battle but a great journey in spiritual joy that was a real gift ...cause I was in sexchat and getting depressed with the pm's I was reading ... (freelove down again )
Many times I go to blush mode!!! And sometimes I don't even understand what is being discussed in chat. My girl friend tells me that I have improved in four years online but still am pretty lame in the 'game' world of flirt n sex. meaning that she knows that I don't know how to play this game sometimes. I just shut down and turn beet red ... my mind just doesn't seem to grasp some things at all.
Men are on the back burner for now. I like men finally ... am not afraid of them any more, but energy wise and heart wise I sense a deadness of a sorts that might be right* for me just now anyways. Back to having fun laughing and dreaming up funny things to write about!!! Enjoying the light banter of this Forum and the wit and ease of the participants.
Truly am happy for those who are flying in love now . Rejoice with ya all! I read some posts and think deeply about how you are all feeling and being in these times we are in. Am grateful to have your honest reflections and thoughts and even joking from you all. The Forum puts a smile, tear, sigh, raised fist, in my heart continually.
Thank you all!
Post Date: 10/12/2001 2:39:11 PM (Eastern USA) Edit
Author: Suzanne
hmmmmm .. sitting here thinking ...
Differences between men and women ... are so vast that only connection* can make em all go away ... in huffs n puffs and wooo blow me down ... sigh*
Going to showers and nozzle ... then back to the ROOF ... woof * and off to a wedding this evening!!!
Wolfbane? You are one funny fella!
Post Date: 10/13/2001 10:40:45 PM (Eastern USA) Edit
Author: Pilgrim
Slogan: Forever Eh - Musing
hi to suzanne,
saw this and thought of you, and sensing that perhaps it may help you. maybe think of a time by a river, with a solitude of two and a sweater ... big and comfy... be well my friend, and thank you for the kind words in regards to a certain lady and i
The Cracked Pot
A water bearer in India had two large pots, each hung on the end of a pole which he carried across his neck.
One of the pots was perfectly made and never leaked. The other pot had a crack in it and by the time the water bearer reached his master's house it had leaked much of it's water and was only half full.
For a full two years this went on daily, with the bearer delivering only one and a half pots full of water to his master's house. Of course, the perfect pot was proud of its accomplishments. But the poor cracked pot was ashamed of its own imperfection, and miserable that it was able to accomplish only half of what it had been made to do.
After two years of what it perceived to be a bitter failure, it spoke to the water bearer one day by the stream. "I am ashamed of myself, and I want to apologize to you." "Why?" asked the bearer. "What are you ashamed of?"
"I have been able, for these past two years, to deliver only half my load because this crack in my side causes water to leak out all the way back to your master's house. Because of my flaws, you have to do all of this work, and you don't get full value from your efforts," the pot said.
The water bearer felt sorry for the old cracked pot, and in his compassion he said, "As we return to the master's house, I want you to notice the beautiful flowers along the path."
Indeed, as they went up the hill, the old cracked pot took notice of the sun warming the beautiful wild flowers on the side of the path, and this cheered it some. But at the end of the trail, it still felt bad because it had leaked out half its load, and so again the pot apologized to the bearer for its failure.
The bearer said to the pot, "Did you notice that there were flowers only on your side of your path, but not on the other pot's side? That's because I have always known about your flaw, and I took advantage of it. I planted flower seeds on your side of the path, and every day while we walk back from the stream, you've watered them.
For two years I have been able to pick these beautiful flowers to decorate my master's table. Without you being just the way you are, he would not have this beauty to grace his house."
Each of us has our own unique flaws. We're all cracked pots. But if we will allow it, God will use our flaws to grace his table. In God's great economy, nothing goes to waste. Don't be afraid of your flaws. Acknowledgethem, and you too can be the cause of beauty. Know that in our weakness we find our strength.
Author Unknown
sxometimes Suzanne, faith in one's self works miracles. be well and be safe
Post Date: 10/14/2001 1:57:35 AM (Eastern USA) Edit
Author: Suzanne
Ahhh Thank you Pilgrim for the story and your comments.
Kind of funny actually cause just this past week my pastor (at Bible study) opened his bible and came to a passage marked, then he read it to and for me:
It is in Isaiah 48:10:
"Behold, I have refined thee, but not with silver; I have chosen thee in the furnace of affliction."
The King James Version.
A Long while back the Lord told me that my walls were destroyed, through years of abusive words, fear, etc. and of course not* turning to God but going my own ways. He then went on to tell me that He is building my walls back up. Now, that rebuilding process hurts like hell sometimes! I have not been allowed to run and hide from any fears, or experiences but have been forced to hold His hand as I face the fears, trusting in Him as I go through them again and again gaining lil victory over lil victory deep in my soul. When one has lost trust in self through time, it does take time to build up that faith once again but in that time I have received a most precious gift in return: trust and reliance in the Lord ... my shepherd. One who cares for me more than I do for myself.
Zechariah 13:9: "And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The LORD is my God."
Who am I to complain how God deals with me in this life here? I have asked to have a different road and well, this is the one I am dealt! It seems to matter not, Pilgrim, cause He promises that He will be my strength when I am weak. lol that means I get His strength a lot eh ?
I see cracked pots, and broken walls, as symbols of wounds and pains we all carry within our spirits and souls. And I am assured that miracles do occur and healing does happen:
Heal me, O Lord, and I shall be healed;
Save me, and I shall be saved,
For You are my praise. Jer. 17:14
I believe your post was sent from a caring heart and in that Pilgrim I receive it as such. Again, thank you.
By the way? This was not written pugnaciously nor with a spirit of self-righteousness, rather, Pilgrim, with true looks at who I am in the world's eyes and who I am in His eyes and the journey to more wholeness ought to be a big trip, eh?
Be well, love well, walk in the path given you, and impact those given to you in life. Am happy for you.
Post Date: 10/14/2001 4:47:28 PM (Eastern USA) Edit
Author: Pilgrim
Slogan: :) Forever Eh - Musing
learning to do both, and something about surrenderring, not an easy thing for a type A personality that sneaks out of me at times....
The paradox of vulnerability in relationships, the path to connection, is to allow yourself to be both strong and vulnerable at the same time. When you do, it allows your partner to get to see the real you with your defenses down. This means no hiding. Not from yourself, not from your partner and best of all no hiding from the truth.
Allowing yourself to be vulnerable in relationship is the fuel that propels the relationship to move forward and grow. If you don’t allow yourself to be vulnerable, what you are doing is building walls to keep others from being able to hurt you. As life and business philosopher Jim Rohn says “the walls we build to keep out the sadness also keeps out the joy”. Mona Lisa Schultz reminds us that it’s not healthy for your relationship, your emotions, or your body when one partner has all the power and the other has all the vulnerability. In fact, either position can be painful. You have tolearn the joys and benefits of the opposite position -- of being vulnerable -- when the occasion calls for it, and seizing power when necessary.
When you don’t feel safe enough to tell your partner anything, in fear of how they might react or what they might say or do, the passion dies and the relationship shortly thereafter.
by susie collins
power & vulnerability in relationships
Post Date: 10/14/2001 10:39:03 PM (Eastern USA) Edit
Author: Leggy
Difficult decision .... to show your vulnerabilities to someone...what if they perceive them as signs of weakness?
Post Date: 10/14/2001 11:11:27 PM (Eastern USA) Edit
Author: Pilgrim
Slogan: Forever Eh - Musing
glad you asked.
their loss .... period
Post Date: 10/15/2001 12:30:04 AM (Eastern USA) Edit
Author: Suzanne
Some do view vulnerabilities as weaknesses Leggy, and Pilgrim is right: their loss! Takes more courage to be vulnerable than to dump on the one trusting! Anyone out for a power play could file away info for later usage as leverage.
One thing I found so difficult to accept was being married to such a competitive man as my ex was: he had to always win even if he cheated in relating? Something wrong with that kind of mindset.
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