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Author: Iron Mike Author Host/IP: 67.177.144.32 |
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Date Posted: 08:44:33 03/20/06 Mon In reply to: FTJ 's message, "Re: If you could turn back time..." on 13:09:49 03/19/06 Sun >Just thinking that if I could turn time back I would >also make absolutely certain that the historical value >of the now defunct OFRN was carefully preserved. Now defunct OFRN? LOL Only in your yard because there are many out there which will disagree with you. Once again this is only opinion not a fact because the fact is, there are OFRN still around today. You sure are opinionate for someone who wasn't around at the time. You talk like you know all about these people. Like you have talked to them or knew them personally. Did you ever talk to Bob Hemphill, Jake Wilder or Bob Wallace or lets say Leo Kinard, Frank Creed, Sonny Sykes, Mrs. Corvino or her oldest son Tony, Jim Wilson, Howard Heinzl, Frank Fitzwater, Floyd Boudreaux and the family in TX., Any of these people? NO! You are being used when you parrot BS from other people who know as much about the history of the breed as you. >At the 26 year mark of 1980, many stories were based >on "old timers" from the 60's and 70's who played >games with actual facts and bloodlines. 26 years hmmm I guess if someone was just getting into dogs in 1980 then that is the only history they would know. But in my case as everyone knows I was born around the dogs all my life because of coming from third generation of APBT ownership. 26 years of what? since the creation of the OFRN? LOL BS! 26 year mark of what? I know you were even around in 1980. Or at least your show news wasn't back in the 70's Pit Dog Report or information in Bloodline Journal about you never appeared as it has with us. Gee I don't recall your name in April 1976 when I was in Chicago breeding Heidi (aka Flossie) to Bodzainowski's Paddy Boy 3xw littermate brother to Ch. Rascal and from my litter came Smokin Satan 2xw and Pat got Tarzan 2xw. I also don't recall your name being around in 1972 when we had Williams' Red Doll flew in from OK. from Jim Williams and Leon Kimball. I don't remember your name be said in 1965 when I rode with my brother down to meet Bob Hemphill. I don't think in all the years owning this breed have I ever met someone like you John that talk so much about the history of the breed and lived so little of it. >Because of >those who were enjoying such title "old timer" some >took advantage of that position in the pit bull world >and ran away with crazy ideas and made up fables and >myths to further confuse the novice. I do believe this is what you are trying to do here. But I'm not surprise when I meet people like you because I expect it because it is your way, it is your culture. You truly believe what ever you say to be excepted when you know nothing about what you are talking about. Why? Because you believe your word is the Divine chosen one's word. I guess you didn't get the memo, you'll fell out of favor. LOL >Maurice Carver is >known for not giving the 411 on a lot of breeding and >dogs he had and sold. Some are still following that >example in the worst way. Here is a clear cut example your BS. "Maurice Carver". Now what do you know about Maurice? How do you know anything about the man? I'm sure you been to his house, been to some of the party's? Been to some of the shows with him? Now as far giving out 411 on information, THAT IS BULLSHIT! I guess since you like to quote from SDJ you missed Bobby Lemm's letter about Maurice and him selling dogs and what he told people. You should have read it because it told how Maurice really was. Maurice didn't sell you a stud dog, he sold match dogs! As far as telling about other people's breeding, that is BS! He didn't even paper his own. John you need to close your mouth and listen and show dogs before you try to write like you know the history or people from the pass. This is the difference from me and you, EVERRYONE I named in this post, I did know and had met. These are people I have talked too. >If I could turn back time, I think it would be better >than how to breed Geronimo 2, with a cross, to just >get some hard truth on these dogs and especially the >OFRN that are gone today. As far as OFRN being gone, it is still around. As far as Hemphill dogs, like I said before, I would not have bred to him. I had the chance and didn't for the reasons I named. If I wanted Hemphill and if I had my choices of what I didn't go after, I think I would have went after the Lightner dogs That Blair Hetrick had and Junior Bush was feeding. Or maybe I should have got more dogs from Jim Williams and maybe tried to get some more Clouse dogs or if I wanted the real good Hemphill dogs, I would have went after Skaggs dogs.... [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] |
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