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Author: Duncan7 |
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Date Posted: 23:24:12 03/13/08 Thu In reply to: jw 's message, "Re: Oh come on now. You supported Bush and all that he wanted" on 19:32:37 03/13/08 Thu And in every generation there is some guy standing on the street corner with a "the end is near" sign. >"And please don't pretend that when someone >you support gets in office it's going to be very >different. We've been alive for a wee bit now and you >can't honestly tell me that things have ever gone the >way your imagination believes it should." > > There are some very big differences between now and >anything that has happened in the last 30 years, we >are now in very big trouble, whoever is elected or >appointed will have to change the course of this >nation, and they will have to use big government, >regulation, and a much more progressive tax structure >to help us recover from the bush catastrophe. I >lifted this paragraph below from BEV's post which >describes bush treasury secretery Paulison's sudden >about face on government regulation of the financial >industry - > > >"WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) -- You know things are very >very bad on Wall Street when a guy like Henry Paulson >-- Treasury secretary, solid Republican, and former >Goldman Sachs CEO -- joins the crowd calling for more >regulation over the financial markets. >Paulson spared no one in his criticism Thursday of the >excesses of deregulation that has now created the >worst global financial crisis in a generation, >threatening the health of the U.S. economy, the >savings of millions of Americans, and the survival of >some of the biggest financial institutions in the >world." > > This pretty much says it all! We are in an >extremely desperate situation now, the economy is >beginnning to collapse, led by hyper-inflation of >commodities and the collapse of the dollar, increased >by a maniac federal reserve that fuels this crisis by >lowering interest rates. When fed chairman paul >volker was in the same situation in 1980, he kept >raising interest rates until he licked inflation, and >it worked. It is hard to say if volker's action led >to the 82 recession, the interest rates dropped along >with inflation before that recession started, but he >kept the currency stable, which is essential for a >country to survive. Bush and bernanke are destroying >the financial foundation of the country, we have >massive inflation and a severe recession at the same >time. > > Reagan did not change everything at once, but the >economic structure of america is very different today >than it was when reagan took power. It is certain >that the next president will have to reverse the >course reagan started, as bush's treasury secretary >paulison indicates in his comments above. There are >huge differences in the direction the dems and repubs >want to go in, americans are more aware of this than >they have been in a long time, this will be the most >interesting election in a long time, perhaps post ww2. > > >>Actually I'm alot more consistent then you are. And i >>do support Bush, but don't think we as a people don't >>carry the responsibilities of our own actions. Not >>just about what you want to pick and chose, but >>everything. And please don't pretend that when someone >>you support gets in office it's going to be very >>different. We've been alive for a wee bit now and you >>can't honestly tell me that things have ever gone the >>way your imagination believes it should. Bush clinton, >>reagon, charter. keep going. It's always pretty much >>business as usual. Stay ahead of everyone else at any >>cost. Do you really want to rehash the same old >>arguements we've had for 10 years? >> >>>You have consistently argued Bush's position. And now >>>you are blaming all Americans for ignoring the >>>constitution, starting wars, etc. etc.? You must be >>>insane. >>> >>>>Bush?? It's been like that since the day we were >>born. >>>>Capitalism has been and always will be brutal. As >far >>>>as that Rush guy i don't listen to him so the flood >>>>gates are lost on me, but I do know a lost soul when >>I >>>>see one. That would be you. >>>> >>>>>Go back and read what I wrote. Actually, there are >>>>>many who are taking the wealth of the people to >>stuff >>>>>their own pockets. Capitalism is brutal. Always has >>>>>been. Except now, people like Rush Limbaugh have >>>>>opened the flood gates so they can insult you, >while >>>>>Bush and co have opened the hell gates so the >>>>>government can now take away any remaining liberty >>>and >>>>>freedoms that you had without having to own up to >>any >>>>>authority. >>>>> >>>>>We are like cattle on a dairy farm breed only to >>>>>produce wealth for those in control. >>>>> >>>>>>Stephen, please you have always been a bit of a >>>>>>fanatic, but you still don't believe that the >world >>>>is >>>>>>consumer driven. Humans buy what they want with no >>>>>>concern. You needed your SUV right? To blame all >>>your >>>>>>woes on one man is just plain ignorant. As far as >>>>your >>>>>>other rant. i think that question was put to one >of >>>>>>the morons running for president. "If you knew the >>>>guy >>>>>>knew where the bomb was". the answer is yes. Give >>me >>>>>>about 10 minutes and you'll know the location of >>>that >>>>>>device. And all those staring residents were >>>starving >>>>>>already while sadam had a sweet time. Where was >the >>>>>>responsibility of those residents while he was >>>>running >>>>>>amock with himself? We will never agree on this. >>>>Lucky >>>>>>for you people like me served to provide you with >>>>your >>>>>>sheltered life. >>>>>> >>>>>>>So you too believe that the government should be >>>>able >>>>>>>to torture people? I would say that people like >>you >>>>>>>are getting >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Of course they were screwing and/or shooting >>>>anything >>>>>>>that moved laying siege to cities, first starving >>>>the >>>>>>>residents, and then methodically killing the >>males, >>>>>>>torturing people in prisons, ripping off national >>>>>>>treasures, and all this in good fun. And so they >>>>>>>captured Saddam for you and murdered, raped, and >>>>>>>otherwise maimed hundreds of thousands of >innocent >>>>>>>men, women and children so you could have your >>>>>flippen >>>>>>>entertainment. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Besides these bs stories you give us, how the >flip >>>>to >>>>>>>you sleep at night? You can't honestly believe >>this >>>>>>>crap you feed me, can you? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>And what is most interesting is that politians, >>>like >>>>>>>Bush, Cheney, and numerous conservative >>>congressmen, >>>>>>>have so brainwashed and polarized our society and >>>>>made >>>>>>>it OK for people to harm each other. People who >>>>>>>support them march in lock-step that they will >not >>>>>>>break, even when all the evidence stares them in >>>the >>>>>>>face… like that which is happening here with you. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Ya, we do get what we deserve for listening to >the >>>>>>>likes of Bush! >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>for being such a brainiac professor you sure do >>>>have >>>>>>a >>>>>>>>short memory. >>>>>>>>yes i wanted sadam removed and i didn't care >>about >>>>>>>>MWD's. as far as passing laws to force people to >>>do >>>>>>>>what's right? That actually proves my point. No >>>>self >>>>>>>>control what so ever. We get what we deserve. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>So you believe that it is simply human nature >>and >>>>>>>that >>>>>>>>>Bush's policies toward debt and regulation have >>>>>>>>>nothing to do with this? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>So you believe we should have invaded Iraq? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>I suppose you feel that Iraq is still hiding >>>those >>>>>>>>WMD? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>And that banking should have been deregulated? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>And that we should continue to torture people? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>And that Bush's government should ignore >>>>>>>>conservation? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>And they should not pay atention to changes in >>>the >>>>>>>>>environment? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>And that we should continue to pass laws that >>>rape >>>>>>>>>what little wealth the American public had >>>>>>>accumulated >>>>>>>>>under Clinton in order to stuff the banks of >the >>>>>>>>>wealthy? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Yes. I expected nothing less from you. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>We are what we are because we consume >>everything >>>>>in >>>>>>>>>>our path and justify it anyway we want. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>It's alright. I expected you to be just the >>way >>>>>>you >>>>>>>>>>>are. And that is why we are as we are today. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>So I feel good about being right, just as I >>was >>>>>>>>>>>absolutely right about you. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>If we wait long enough you'll probably be >>>right >>>>>>>>>about >>>>>>>>>>>>the world ending. LOL >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>I think the Bush rape of the US economy has >>>>>>>>reached >>>>>>>>>>>>>the breaking point. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>The only consolation is that we saw this >>>>>coming. [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] |
