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Date Posted: 17:18:50 04/13/05 Wed
Author: elia
Subject: Re: Not my business
In reply to: Chris 's message, "Not my business" on 14:24:35 04/13/05 Wed

hi,
>Elia, I think you reveal an inconsistency in your
>thoughts that I often observed in UBF members. On the
>one side, you say about the problems in your chapter
>(and obviously even more about the problems in other
>chapters like Chicago):
>
>most of them are not of my business, so...
>
>On the other side, you defend the UBF idea of always
>interfering in the "business" of the "sheep":
where did i do that? as i wrote: MOST OF THEM are not of my business, just because they don't concern me! i haven't wrote anything specific about the problems i'm talking about, so why do you all think that you know what i mean? do you all think that i just watch others being abused and then write: it's not of my business? i wouldn't dare. but the problems i mean are none of that kind.

>But he told me that he believed that it was not
>responsible, "it was not his business", he was not
>"entitled to" speak with him. Actually, in UBF you are
>only "entitled" to rebuke or critice "subordinate"
>people, i.e. your "sheep." That's why UBF is so ill.
that's not what i had in mind at all. in fact at the moment things aren't that way here.

>Even in your
>chapter, nobody ever dared to really criticize Abraham
>Lee, instead, his authority was confirmed, increased,
>beefed up, and that's why things have now acuminated.
how do you want to know that?

>As long as everybody thinks "it is not my business,"
>or "I don't know the truth and actually I do not
>really want to find out the truth" the
>leaders can do whatever they like, even force
>abortions.
yes, you're right, but just as long as it concerns problem of the kind you're referring to.

>We all had this
>"it is not our business" mentality.
perhaps i expressed mistakable so i write it down once again:
i'm not that kind of person who just closes his eyes and just defenses ubf. i see problems like you all do. BUT i'm just here in cologne, i cannot stand up for everything you write here in the forum or on your website. i'm willing to hear/take criticism as long as it is right. but understand, you all are NOT HERE (in cologne) so you just CAN'T understand what i mean. you all just think: "oh, he wrote problems, surely he means the typical abusing and manipulating which is common in ubf" or something. but that is not what i was referring to. that's just because i don't see that here respectivley i haven't made such experiences. but there are lots of other problems in this world, most of them personal. and those are not of my business. that's not just an "attitude" i'm standing up for. in fact sometimes i'm sad that those problems do even exist. but i cannot change that, i don't have the right to do that.

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Not my business because of what UBF teaches us -- PECAS, 20:53:40 04/13/05 Wed