Date Posted:15:45:25 04/14/05 Thu Author: elia Subject: Re: I'd like to believe In reply to:
Joe
's message, "I'd like to believe" on 21:57:00 04/13/05 Wed
>Know where I'm coming from. I'd like to believe that
>there are some in Cologne whose consciences are not
>seared. I know that some (half?) in Cologne find Peter
>Chang's methods and chapter to be repugnant. I know
>about the refusals to attend the ISU conference in
>2001 because of the elevation of Chang to main
>conference messenger, at least I think that was the
>reason for prominent people from Cologne not attending
>that conference. I remember a current (?) member of
>Cologne (a "German Shepherd") posting here over a year
>ago and seeming to admit the real problems that he
>knew existed in UBF in general. I'd like to believe
>that the "internal problems" in Cologne are due in
>some part to people being honest about the real
>problems of UBF (causing conflict with those who are
>not honest). I'd like to believe that Cologne is not a
>typical "large" UBF chapter.
then i can't help it. if you want to believe that all ubf 2nd gens are "not to believe" just because you met SOME of that sort, then that's your problem. to me it just shows how stubborn you are, sorry. and don't come with "i know what i'm talking about, i was in the same situation" blah blah blah. you just see things the way you want to see them, no matter whether they're true or not. but if that's who you are, be lucky with it.
i wish we could discuss it a better way, but for you i'm not believable, so...
