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Date Posted: 21:54:43 02/06/05 Sun
Author: --------------
Subject: Re: I met Christ
In reply to: UBF "second gen" 's message, "I met Christ" on 17:13:12 02/01/05 Tue

I have two problems with what you have written. You say that because of this website "We make people sin.". No one can MAKE anyone else sin. We all have our God given gift of freedom-freedom to decide what we want to do.

Second you say that Jesus was silent. It seems that you are implying that because Jesus was silent we should be silent too. NO...not at all. God does not call us to a life of complacency. He calls us to love him whole heartedly. If we truly love God, then we should be passionate about injustices ESPECIALLY when they take place in the CHURCH. God wants us to confess our sins to one another. He wants us to correct our brothers and sisters in Christ in LOVE. Jesus doesn't call us to a life of simply enduring wrongdoings in the church. We must fight for God's church through our loving action toward one another. Therefore, this website is needed. It is someone's loving offering to God to show Him that they will indeed fight for His church.

>Well, a lot has changed in UBF over the past couple of
>years. I do have to admit that there were a lot of
>strange, shameless things going on when DSL was
>leading UBF. But then again, does it mean that the
>whole church is corrupted? I don't know...I think the
>bad stuff that happened was not cuz of the church, but
>because of individual people's human thinking and
>sinful nature. We shouldn't talk bad about UBF as a
>whole. THere are people who really want to serve God
>and who really love JEsus. And don't say that I've
>been "brainwashed" because that's just ridiculous. I'm
>being truthful. I met Christ through "devotionals" led
>by Sh JD, and that really revolutionized CBF and JBF,
>and UBF as a whole. CBF is not just a superficial
>bible study thing anymore; JBF/HBF is amazing...we are
>reaching out to high school students in Chicago like
>never before to meet Christ. College ministry is also
>so blessed.
>The thing is, I know many people are angry at DSL and
>at leaders in UBF; but it's not the same anymore. Of
>course you cannot shrug it off; that'd be ridiculous
>for me to tell you to do so. I'm saying that you
>should just trust in God...he works only for good. And
>don't blame the whole church; it is the individual
>people's faults for certain things that happened.
>People are meeting Christ; I even helped my friends
>come to Christ at school. But when they read about the
>things you write, they are swayed. I'm not saying that
>they should attend UBF because it is the perfect
>church; that's stupid. I'm saying it messes up their
>spiritual lives. ANd you cause them to sin. My friend
>was growing a lot spiritually and getting to know more
>about Jesus, but then now she doesn't want to explore
>Christianity anymore because of the stuff she read
>online. THat's one life that could have been saved.
>ONE LIFE. so precious. And it infuriates and saddens
>me, because you don't even know the awesome stuff
>thats been happening in UBF.
>Do you guys believe in JEsus? THen act as Jesus would.
>It's not easy. Our emotions get us carried away. But
>Jesus was tortured and crucified, and he was silent.
>He died for us. Who do you think you are to think that
>you are better than somebody else, and lead people
>away from the opportunity to recieve Christ? It seems
>like you're doing the right thing because you don't
>want ppl to get involved with UBF...but go back to the
>story about my friend and the opportunity that was
>lost to recieve Christ because of you. This means that
>the devil is using you, even though it sounds
>ridiculous. God loves us all the same. We were all
>wretched in our sins, but Christ died for us.
>People in UBF have indeed made mistakes, but it is our
>sinful nature. We inevitably fall into sin because of
>what we inherited from Adam. Yet because of God's
>grace, we can be forgiven and loved. Don't lead people
>away from the Word of God. And you probably are
>thinking that UBF doesn't teach the Word of God, but
>something else. Wrong. Don't tell me that I have not
>met Christ. Don't tell me that the Holy Spirit that
>breaks me down to tears of repentance and joy during
>worship and prayer is not the Holy Spirit. Don't tell
>me that love that I experienced through the blood of
>Jesus is not real.
>All churches have imperfections; there are no perfect
>churches because people are sinners, and yes, leaders
>are sinners. You are sinners too. Just remember what
>Christ did for you. And let people meet Christ through
>the work that God does in people, even people like me,
>in UBF.
>God bless.

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"a lot has changed in UBF over the past couple of years" -- Chris, 19:30:32 02/07/05 Mon