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Date Posted: 17:13:12 02/01/05 Tue
Author: UBF "second gen"
Subject: I met Christ

Well, a lot has changed in UBF over the past couple of years. I do have to admit that there were a lot of strange, shameless things going on when DSL was leading UBF. But then again, does it mean that the whole church is corrupted? I don't know...I think the bad stuff that happened was not cuz of the church, but because of individual people's human thinking and sinful nature. We shouldn't talk bad about UBF as a whole. THere are people who really want to serve God and who really love JEsus. And don't say that I've been "brainwashed" because that's just ridiculous. I'm being truthful. I met Christ through "devotionals" led by Sh JD, and that really revolutionized CBF and JBF, and UBF as a whole. CBF is not just a superficial bible study thing anymore; JBF/HBF is amazing...we are reaching out to high school students in Chicago like never before to meet Christ. College ministry is also so blessed.
The thing is, I know many people are angry at DSL and at leaders in UBF; but it's not the same anymore. Of course you cannot shrug it off; that'd be ridiculous for me to tell you to do so. I'm saying that you should just trust in God...he works only for good. And don't blame the whole church; it is the individual people's faults for certain things that happened. People are meeting Christ; I even helped my friends come to Christ at school. But when they read about the things you write, they are swayed. I'm not saying that they should attend UBF because it is the perfect church; that's stupid. I'm saying it messes up their spiritual lives. ANd you cause them to sin. My friend was growing a lot spiritually and getting to know more about Jesus, but then now she doesn't want to explore Christianity anymore because of the stuff she read online. THat's one life that could have been saved. ONE LIFE. so precious. And it infuriates and saddens me, because you don't even know the awesome stuff thats been happening in UBF.
Do you guys believe in JEsus? THen act as Jesus would. It's not easy. Our emotions get us carried away. But Jesus was tortured and crucified, and he was silent. He died for us. Who do you think you are to think that you are better than somebody else, and lead people away from the opportunity to recieve Christ? It seems like you're doing the right thing because you don't want ppl to get involved with UBF...but go back to the story about my friend and the opportunity that was lost to recieve Christ because of you. This means that the devil is using you, even though it sounds ridiculous. God loves us all the same. We were all wretched in our sins, but Christ died for us.
People in UBF have indeed made mistakes, but it is our sinful nature. We inevitably fall into sin because of what we inherited from Adam. Yet because of God's grace, we can be forgiven and loved. Don't lead people away from the Word of God. And you probably are thinking that UBF doesn't teach the Word of God, but something else. Wrong. Don't tell me that I have not met Christ. Don't tell me that the Holy Spirit that breaks me down to tears of repentance and joy during worship and prayer is not the Holy Spirit. Don't tell me that love that I experienced through the blood of Jesus is not real.
All churches have imperfections; there are no perfect churches because people are sinners, and yes, leaders are sinners. You are sinners too. Just remember what Christ did for you. And let people meet Christ through the work that God does in people, even people like me, in UBF.
God bless.

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Replies:

Re: I met Christ -- bruce, 18:06:55 02/01/05 Tue
- In One Word -- bruce, 18:17:52 02/01/05 Tue
Re: I met Christ -- Chris, 19:17:14 02/01/05 Tue
- Shut up and live with it or Speak up and die for it -- Mike K., 03:30:15 02/02/05 Wed
- Re: I met Christ -- Tony Lang, 07:55:19 02/02/05 Wed
Re: I met Christ -- Joe Chung, 19:22:10 02/01/05 Tue
- I agree with secondgen -- secondgen2, 00:43:01 02/04/05 Fri
  - Re: I agree with secondgen -- Joe Chung, 01:38:39 02/04/05 Fri
  - Re: I agree with secondgen -- ChicagoXile, 02:47:57 02/04/05 Fri
    - "Wacked" UBF -- bruce, 07:00:43 02/04/05 Fri
  - Re: I agree with secondgen? You are secondgen. -- ChicagoXile, 07:28:09 02/04/05 Fri
Re: I met Christ -- friend, 22:29:14 02/01/05 Tue
Hello again -- ubf "secongen", 02:01:13 02/02/05 Wed
- DSL? -- ts, 03:09:04 02/02/05 Wed
- Re: Hello again -- Chris, 03:36:25 02/02/05 Wed
  - Leave condemnation... -- Mike K., 03:48:04 02/02/05 Wed
I condemn no one -- bruce, 08:04:44 02/02/05 Wed
Re: I met Christ -- Brother in Christ, 09:54:21 02/02/05 Wed
- Re: I met Christ -- Brother in Christ, 14:53:38 02/03/05 Thu
  - Second jen didn't respond to my e-mail -- Nick T., 15:16:40 02/03/05 Thu
    - fractured personalities -- Chris, 01:34:55 02/04/05 Fri
  - Re: I met Christ -- second gen, 00:32:07 02/04/05 Fri
    - Questions -- Chris, 01:29:54 02/04/05 Fri
    - Re: I met Christ -- Joe Chung, 02:06:25 02/04/05 Fri
      - Re: I met Christ -- sedondgen, 21:51:32 02/05/05 Sat
        ... then act like you met Christ. -- ChicagoXile, 09:06:46 02/06/05 Sun
        Re: I met Christ & he was wearing a UBF rulz tshirt -- Joe Chung, 16:01:49 02/06/05 Sun
        Re: I met Christ & he was wearing a "UBF roolz" tshirt -- Joe, 16:08:50 02/06/05 Sun
    - Re: I met Christ -- Bob, 00:13:51 02/06/05 Sun
Re: I met Christ -- jim, 23:21:06 02/02/05 Wed
- Re: I met Christ -- Chris, 10:26:55 02/03/05 Thu
Re: I met Christ -- Ward, 23:51:40 02/02/05 Wed
- Re: I met Christ -- Tony Lang, 01:18:16 02/03/05 Thu
  - Not even close -- ChicagoXile, 11:08:42 02/03/05 Thu
  - Not even close -- ChicagoXile, 14:37:23 02/03/05 Thu
Re: I met Christ -- Anonymous, 16:02:57 02/04/05 Fri
ATTN: PECAS -- ChicagoXile, 19:21:36 02/06/05 Sun
- The benefits of RsqUBF -- PECAS, 19:17:21 02/07/05 Mon
Re: I met Christ -- --------------, 21:54:43 02/06/05 Sun
"a lot has changed in UBF over the past couple of years" -- Chris, 19:30:32 02/07/05 Mon