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Date Posted: 10:29:52 10/13/04 Wed
Author: Brian Karcher
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In reply to: John 's message, "It's the victim's fault" on 10:14:14 10/13/04 Wed

>Although I explained to Brian about my bad
>experience in the Toledo UBF, Brian has not publically
>sought to give any recognition of harmful behaviours
>in his ministry and has even suggested that "victims"
>are possibly culpible themselves. This really hurts
>and is to some degree slanderous.

Robert, yes, you did explain your bad experience. In fact, I saw your experience and the experience of Patricia long before she knew you, from an insider's viewpoint.

I do not blame you; yes there were things done wrongly, in my opinion, on both sides.

What do you want from UBF? Are you saying you are a helpless victim who had no part in anything that happened? Are you saying you had no choice whatsoever in anything?

You may not believe this, but I consider you a brother in Christ.

Brian.

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Replies:

Re: -- former, 10:47:01 10/13/04 Wed
- Re: -- Brian Karcher, 11:12:22 10/13/04 Wed
  - Re: -- former, 11:51:38 10/13/04 Wed
Re: -- Brian Karcher, 13:00:57 10/13/04 Wed
- Re: -- Bob2, 01:07:05 10/17/04 Sun
What do you want from UBF? -- Bob2, 01:47:57 10/16/04 Sat