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Date Posted: 11:32:04 09/08/04 Wed
Author: UBF member
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Re: UBF Expenses at MSU - WRONG CALCS
In reply to: Roving Reporter News Network 's message, "UBF Expenses at MSU" on 13:51:48 09/06/04 Mon

Your calcluations are incorrect.

- Not every member was charged the same, some paid only what the actual cost was. Foreign members did not pay any registration fee.

- Estimating $200 per person is incorrect. The average is much lower. Only a small percentage actually give significant amounts. Most students give only $5 or so.

>The actual expenses at MSU can be summarized in three
>parts. First will be the food portion. Each
>breakfast cost $4.75, each lunch cost $7.50, and each
>dinner cost $8.50. So for a Thursday night through
>Sunday noon conference, that should work out to three
>meals at each mealtime. So each person who stayed for
>the entire conference incurred actual meal expenses of
>$62.25. There were some extra expenses such as JBF
>catering, Tea and cookie reception, and some extra
>boxed lunches during the conference. The actual UBF
>food service total came out to
>$158,467.18.
>
>
>Second will be the housing expense. The room charge
>for adults was $22.25 per person, per night. There
>was an additional 181 persons classified at a youth
>rate of $13.50 per person, per night. All total, the
>housing expense for all attendants was $160,021.64 for
>the three nights.
>
>There should have been a sales tax charged on these
>items, but the UBF used its undeserving status as a
>tax exempt group to avoid the sales tax of 6.5%. The
>people of the State of Michigan were cheated out of
>$22,866.75 by the tax evading UBF.
>
>
>Third, the costs billed by the Wharton Center came out
>to $24,017.29.
>
>If we total up all three categories, it comes out to
>$374,663.01. MSU also reported the number of
>registered guests on August 1 (the date of the highest
>attendance) only came out to 2,242. If we divide the
>total expenses by the number of attendants, the actual
>cost per person is only $167.11 per person.
>
>How much did the UBF charge for each attendant? And
>how much money did they reap when they passed the
>collection baskets with great expectations from each
>attendant? If each attendant only gave an average of
>$200, that means the UBF collected $448,400 in monies
>that is free and clear of any expense. This group is
>a tremendous cash cow. Where does all this money go?
>UBF portrays itself as self-supporting, but they
>squeeze money whenever they can, and the leaders live
>off these monies. The leaders have become extremely
>wealthy off these events.
>
>Please consider giving your money to a worthy charity,
>such as one that feeds children. Please consider
>never giving money to the UBF ever again. Please
>consider never attending the UBF ever again. Please
>consider telling your personal story about the bad
>experiences in UBF.
>
>God bless you all.

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Replies:

Re: UBF Expenses at MSU - WRONG CALCS -- former, 11:37:23 09/08/04 Wed
Yeah sure! -- Mike K., 11:37:28 09/08/04 Wed
Re: UBF Expenses at MSU - WRONG CALCS -- Joe, 11:45:50 09/08/04 Wed
- No Free Ride That I Remember -- former, 11:50:43 09/08/04 Wed
  - Chosen few get free ride at cost of others (for MSU only) -- Jan, 15:32:20 09/09/04 Thu
- Re: UBF Expenses at MSU - More Costs -- UBF Member, 12:25:08 09/08/04 Wed
  - Re: UBF Expenses at MSU - More Costs -- former, 12:31:28 09/08/04 Wed
  - Re: UBF Expenses at MSU - More Costs -- Joe, 12:46:39 09/08/04 Wed
  - All costs were considered and accounted for!!!! -- Roving Reporter News Network, 15:01:30 09/08/04 Wed
    - Re: All costs were considered and accounted for!!!! -- UBF Member, 08:32:24 09/10/04 Fri
      - Money Should Be Handled in the Light -- former, 09:00:45 09/10/04 Fri
        Re: Money Should Be Handled in the Light -- UBF Member, 09:49:12 09/10/04 Fri
        Re: Money Should Be Handled in the Light -- former, 10:10:42 09/10/04 Fri
        Re: Money Should Be Handled in the Light -- Former, 10:36:51 09/10/04 Fri
        Re: Money Should Be Handled in the Light -- Mike K., 13:19:42 09/10/04 Fri
        Chang's "bungalow" -- German member, 14:10:53 09/10/04 Fri
        I'm sorry you're so sadly mistaken -- Anonymous, 19:56:29 09/10/04 Fri
        Re: Money Should Be Handled in the Light -- Nonny Moose, 23:30:35 09/10/04 Fri
        UBF members have a right to know -- Joe, 19:00:58 09/11/04 Sat
  - UBF is a money-maker, but don't forget the big picture -- Anonymous, 21:22:41 09/08/04 Wed
  - ECFA -- Mike K., 02:37:52 09/10/04 Fri
  - U do not know all the facts -- Mike K,, 02:44:24 09/10/04 Fri