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Date Posted: 13:33:31 10/11/04 Mon
Author: Brian Karcher
Subject: Already answered
In reply to: Chris 's message, "Re: Obedience" on 11:53:35 10/11/04 Mon

>So, coming back to the original question, rel=nofollow target=_blank >href="http://www.voy.com/60734/8395.html">original
>question raised by UBFree, you would agree that
>missionary John Kwon of the LA held an unbiblcal view
>when he demanded of his sheep "Obey me like you Obey
>God."?

Round and round we go... This will be my last post for now. As you can see, I already answered the original question. Chris, you now raise a modified version of the original question. I will answer both below.

Original Question: "Do you believe that this is a biblical command?"

Original Answer: "This wording is not found in the Bible."

Clarification for Chris:

No, the command "Obey me like you Obey God" is not found in the Bible, so we cannot consider it a Biblical command. So we are not required to obey human leaders exactly as we obey God. If a human leader tells us to do something that violates Scripture or God's will, we are not required to obey that leader.

The issue of obedience to leaders, however, is important to consider.

It is a Biblical *command* to obey leaders. Hebrews 13:17 says, "Obey your leaders and submit to their authority. They keep watch over you as men who must give an account. Obey them so that their work will be a joy, not a burden, for that would be of no advantage to you."

It is a Biblical *principle* to welcome a leader as if they were an angel of God or even God himself. Some people welcomed Apostle Paul as if he were Jesus Christ himself. Galatians 4:14 says, "Even though my illness was a trial to you, you did not treat me with contempt or scorn. Instead, you welcomed me as if I were an angel of God, as if I were Christ Jesus himself."

Now for Chris' new question, which was not asked by UBFree: "you would agree that missionary John Kwon of the LA held an unbiblcal view when he demanded of his sheep "Obey me like you Obey God."?

Answer: No, in my opinion, I do not think M.John Kwon had an unBiblical view. In my opinion, though, I do not consider it a good practice to speak this way.

Immanuel,
Brian.

">Brian,
">
">My "Shepherd", missionary John Kwon of the LA ubf once
">said to me. "Obey me like you Obey God." Do you
">believe that this is a biblical command?
"
"This wording is not found in the Bible."

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