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Subject: Norwegian doctors and parents and rectal temp Author: Knut Holt [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: Sunday, April 19, 2015, 08:51: am When I was child I was often ill from influenza. When I got ill, my parents used to take my temperature rectally, and if I had a fever, they called the doctor. The doctor, when coming, would ask my parents if I had fever, and what was the measured temperature. But I cannot remember that the doctor himself took the temperature or examined my bottom at home visits. In the latest years the development has taken an interesting switch. Still parents take the temperature, and still often rectally. However, many parents do not dear to take rectal temperature because they fear to be accused of sexual abuse, even though taking rectal temp is not illegal in Norway. In my country parents are terrorized by the child protective agencies that tend to accuse parents for sexual abuse for any reason thay can come up with in their head. But nowadays the doctor will nearly always take the temperature of the child when coming to visit, and always rectally, at least if the child is up to 12 years. He will do it even though the parents has taken the temperature and can tell it. And also by office visits this happens, and the doctor prefere to take the temperature himself and not let the nurse do it. I think the reason for this is the following: - Norwagian doctors steadily less trust parents and feel they must check the temperature by themselves. - If the child looks more feverish than the reported tempersture indicatee, there is also a rational reason for retaking the temperature. - They take the temperature opportunity to check the rectal (and sometimes genital) regions for symptoms that might give a more secure diagnosis. Some serious diseases, like meningitis and other serious conditions can give early symptoms anywhear. - They look at the rectal region for signs of sexual abuse, and have been secretly instructed to do so by the authorities. And they teke the opportunity to get a furtive glance of the genital zone for the same reason. [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> Subject: Re: Norwegian doctors and parents and rectal temp Author: Richard [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Tuesday, April 21, 2015, 01:51: pm Yes, there are those who would immediately accuse a parent or caregiver of sexually abusing a minor by taking their rectal temperature. If rectal temperatures were not to be taken, then no doubt here in the states, legislation would be proposed. The reality is this: If you're a parent and neglected to obtain your child's body temperature (rectal route-either by necessity, condition or your preference as a parent(s)) and the child, later had to be brought to an ER for treatment that earlier might have thwarted a bacterial of life threatening condition, based on a rectal measurement, you as a parent, might well be charged with child endangerment or neglect. Whether a parent chooses to take their children's temperatures by ear, mouth, rectum or swipe, it is their decision, and it is their child they are caring for. My biggest fear is that governments (mostly politicians, but medical people too, who have certain questionable agendas) at all levels here are chomping at the bit to tell you what is best for you or your children or even elder parents if applicable, medically as opposed to your intuition and the recommendations and suggestions of your, your elder parents or your child's physician. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: Re: Norwegian doctors and parents and rectal temp Author: Tom [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Saturday, December 05, 2020, 11:24: pm Do you have any kids or grandkids and do you take there temp rectally? If so how did they react and what age to? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: Re: Norwegian doctors and parents and rectal temp Author: Kelib [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Wednesday, December 30, 2020, 05:48: pm I work at a youth clinic where the glass thermometer that are used exclusively for taking a temperature. Suffice it to say that there are a portion of older less functional grade school age youngsters (vast majority being six to ten years old boys) where placing a glass oral thermometer in the mouth would lead to a serious mishap whereas having a glass rectal thermometer mounted in such a boy's rear end always results in a successful conclusion tough he may express his loud objection during the experience. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: Re: Norwegian doctors and parents and rectal temp Author: Tom [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Sunday, January 03, 2021, 12:10: am Can you please tell me where and what year did this take place? Like 1970 or 60s and how did the boys react? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Norwegian doctors and parents and rectal temp Author: Kalib [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Tuesday, January 05, 2021, 07:16: am First stunned them embarrassment. Email me for more information by clicking my highlighted name. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> Subject: I tell about current practice in our times Author: Knut Holt [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Wednesday, January 13, 2021, 03:25: am The practice I tell about was common in the 1950es. then it declined for a long period. I was born in 1953 and experienced it one time only. But in the modern period it has again gained ground and is by now more common than ever, according to my own observations. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: Re: Norwegian doctors and parents and rectal temp Author: Mike [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Wednesday, January 13, 2021, 01:27: pm I’m from a small town in the USA .I was born in the late 60s and I remember throughout the 70s and into the early 80s having my temperature taking in my butts . I was probably around eight or nine when mom stopped taking rectal temperatures unless my temperature was really high. Anytime you had to go to the pediatricians office or if it was on a weekend or at night and you had to go to the emergency room then it was a pretty much the same thing you got your temperature taken rectally At the doctors office you would get called back they had a table in room that was along the wall and that’s where they took your temperature and got your weight and then you will go into the room and wait to see the doctor After you get to me probably 10 or 11 they would take you straight to the Room and the nurse will let you know that she had to take your temperature and you already knew where it was going it was no exceptions because it was the most accurate way so from newborn to 17 This was the standard embarrassing to say the least . And even at an older age you had to be accompanied by a parent which in my case it was always my mother and they believed that anytime you had a fever you would get 2 Tylenol suppositories and more likely one or two shots in your butt. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: Re: Norwegian doctors and parents and rectal temp Author: Kalib [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Thursday, January 14, 2021, 09:18: am Although a benefit of taking a rectal temperature with a glass rectal thermometer is obtaining reliable and consistent readings, the main purpose is to insure a successful conclusion which is a problem when taking the temperature of a youngster that has delays a combination of intellectual and emotional maturity which have always been common in five year old boys and these days to some boys beyond the age of five years old. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]