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Subject: Where were we Author: Shelly [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: Wednesday, January 08, 2025, 02:19: pm AV, Well it has happened. Our 4 year old has decided his revenge. He hadn't pooped yet since his enema on Fri. yesterday. He usually is my shadow most of the day when his brother is in school. He disappeared for about a half an hour and I went and found him standing by his bed with that look I know so well from when I held. He was fighting against contractions, legs locked, face turning red, and I whisked him to the bathroom and took his pants down and he had smeared all over his butt and his underwear. I held my tongue. I didn't spank him or even yell at him. I just cleaned him up put him on the toilet and told him don't move until I get back. I let him soak for about 10 minutes and he was calling for me to let him get off the toilet. I said, "just a minute, I'll be right there." I fixed a one quart soapsuds enema and gave it to him and then I gave him a one quart rinse enema and in the bath. He has always been the aggressive one of our two boys. The one that is the most stubborn and sassy. So he has decided he is going to not poop for me at all. He is in for rude awakening. [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> Subject: Re: Where were we Author: Shelly [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Wednesday, January 08, 2025, 07:03: pm Sitter did a really good job getting a BM without a suppository on her second try sitting. I told her what our little guy did. I felt a little weird telling a holder about a holder. Wondered if she made that connection right away. She asked if meant he doesn't get a clean out on Fri. when she has to come here. I said not at all. Friday night enemas are his life. He make think other wise but Fri. enemas are his life. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: Re: Where were we Author: AV [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Wednesday, January 08, 2025, 08:20: pm Shelly, You did good. Be as stubborn as little junior is. If it means one enema on fridays and one enema during the week for him holding and pooping in his pants, so be it, he will sit and produce as often as he needs to. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: Re: Where were we Author: AV [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Thursday, January 09, 2025, 03:16: am Shelly, I am also going to assume, little junior wasn’t a happy camper when he saw you walk back in with the enema bag with soap suds. And then another rinse following. The very thing he is trying to avoid is what he ends up getting. I am going to take like you mentioned since he is the stubborn and sassy one, that is exactly what he was when you walked in was very vocal and sassy. You are right, he is in for a rude awakening. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: Re: Where were we Author: Shelly [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Thursday, January 09, 2025, 06:58: am AV, Well he was surprised when I came in with the soapsuds bag for him but he didn't give me any back talk because he knew he had done wrong. When I showed up with his rinse enema the verbal assault was on. He may be getting his mouth rinsed out with soap if he keeps it up. I told him he will not talk to me like that. He knows words he shouldn't! He told me he wasn't taking that enema because he already had his enema. I said, "well gee---- I've got this enema fixed nice and warm and made with special water to make someone's tummy feel good and I hate to waste it and you and I are the only ones home right now so----- guess what, somebody is going to take this enema and it ain't gonna be me." He lipped off to me again so he got a spanking and his rinse enema. I don't enjoy doing that. That is not my intended reaction to maintenance enemas but both of them have slow transit colons and these enemas keep things moving and not just sitting and stagnating inside them. I know he is confused. He doesn't want to poop at all now. I feel bad if I brought that on and I probably did but it is just a phase that he will have to go through. He may have to be every other day enema or suppository similar to Andrea's girl is on. I'm prepared to do that. And if he gets caught standing with legs locked even one more time he will spend many months in this house not allowed to wear underwear. He will be commando boy, bare butt boy. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: Re: Where were we Author: AV [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Thursday, January 09, 2025, 07:05: pm Shelly, Everything you mentioned about what will happen to little junior if he continues should be directly told to him and ask him “do you understand me? If not, I’m better at showing you than telling you.” And if he continues, show him. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: Re: Where were we Author: Sue (UK) [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Thursday, January 09, 2025, 03:48: pm FWIW we've used "bare bottom indoors" a lot - as a punishment (that way we can attack with the suppositories in any number of rooms, without warning - and spank first, of course). That may be an inevitable measure when dealing with a stubborn defiant self-constipater. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: Re: Where were we Author: Shelly [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Thursday, January 09, 2025, 07:43: pm Yes I used the no diaper or underwear when I was potty training our older boy. It worked pretty good for the purpose it was used. This little guy is a different creature. He was painting his bedroom walls with natural brown paint when he was starting to spend time on the potty chair for pooping practice. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: Re: Where were we Author: AV [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Friday, January 10, 2025, 05:17: am Shelly, Well, I guess little junior will be in for another rude awakening since this is his regular enema day, today, Friday. But he brings these extra enemas on himself during the week. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Where were we Author: Shelly [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Friday, January 10, 2025, 04:02: pm AV, Yes and I am diabolical. I've warned my 7 year old to not tell him what day of the week this is or that this is the little guy's enema day. Either I or sitter will surprise him when he sees his enema bag or he will know when he gets a suppository. He doesn't understand 'last week', 'tomorrow', 'day after tomorrow', 'three days from now'. Any of that. So to him any day could be his enema day. May have been why I caught him hiding in his bedroom pooping himself. He may have been thinking he was due for an enema and was stressing about it. I'm just going to let him wonder when he will see the enema bag again. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Where were we Author: AV [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Friday, January 10, 2025, 06:03: pm Shelly, I don’t know why little junior would be pooping himself unless he thought he could hold it back and not go to the bathroom. He might just end up being a fighter and a holder as a result of just not wanting enemas. He has made that clear. He doesn’t want one. You will have him tamed though by the time he is 6 years old, the age you wanted to start. Can’t wait to read updates on sitter and how she is doing plus the journey of junior and little junior. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]