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Subject: Never to old to accept an enema


Author:
Maude
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Date Posted: Tuesday, April 29, 2025, 11:06: am

Susan one of my daughters still gives a couple of my granddaughters enemas. Those granddaughters have children of their own and give their children cleansing enemas. These two have issues with constipation and hate the wait of laxatives. They also thought that getting enemas growing were unpleasant and are too nervous to give them selves an enema to relieve their constipation so they go to their mom who now herself is a grandmother and lets her clean them out. I totally understand that when your daughter's Doctor told you the only way to rescue your daughter from the pull ups and accidents was to go rectal it triggered you. Your sister is going to necessarily expose you to those fears and help you with your clean outs and that is the best way to conquer them. Face you fears. Accept your enemas and get your own colon on the way to healing along with your precious two kids. Set the example for them. If you have two bathrooms you and your daughter can do your enemas together. One can be on the toilet while another is getting her enema and holding it for a few minutes while the other is on the toilet to get some of her enema out. Your sister is going to have a long afternoon cleaning the three of you out and this will help compact the time.

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[> Subject: Re: Never to old to accept an enema


Author:
Bonnie's Kid
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Date Posted: Tuesday, April 29, 2025, 12:33: pm

Maude...it's great to see that others have discovered the positive aspects of this simple procedure and pleasure. I grew up with a mom, grandma, and pediatrician who all believed and advocated in the efficacy of an enema. While I often resisted when young, I learned to self administer and found that my elimination was better when I took over control, rather than having others telling me when and how to poop.


The equipment and setup was quite simple and convenient, and allowed me privacy at a time when I was becoming aware of my own bodily functions and reactions.

As a teen in the hospital, I discovered an enema from a caring & gentle administrator
could be accomplished without all the contention I experienced at home. I later appreciated the assistance from those whom I realized were merely trying to help me deal with these intimate procedures.

I was really taken by your posts regarding the "enema pillows" otherwise known as a "JBL". These were a viable concept. It's unfortunate that they are out of production. I had one once, but it became unusable due to leakage. I'd love to get another one.

Keep up your postings as they are well thought out!

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[> [> Subject: Re: Never to old to accept an enema


Author:
Bonnie's Kid
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Date Posted: Thursday, May 01, 2025, 05:10: pm

Have you attempted to discuss these issues with the kids at a time when not in crisis mode, such as when you're about to administer an enema? I don't mean to "butt" in, but as I've posted previously, I had been self administering on a regular basis by the age of 12. I actually started by age 6, although it was awhile later that I became fairly adept at it.

Fluid volumes can be very intimidating, especially for kids. 1-2 pints can be sufficient to trigger a BM, especially with a soapy solution. I seldom took a full bagful (1.5-2 qts.) at their ages. A rinse enema was usually quite comfortable and assured a complete emptying of the lower bowel. Wiping was far simpler after an enema and irritation eliminated.

One thing that has improved enema use, is the ability to hang the bag near the toilet at an optimal height while on the toilet. These quickie enemas are very helpful, and a more thorough "cleanse" can be used more occasionally.

This day and age, a Bidet can be attached under the toilet seat for about 30 bucks. Less toilet paper, clogged toilets, and bum irritation is well worth it. Elimination is much more tolerable as a result.

The extended family would come over to enjoy using grandma and grandpa's bathrooms when in distress. Even the grandkids found that pooping was far more comfortable, especially when backed up from those common neglectful habits. The adult kids all have at least a single bidet at home now.

I only suggest giving things a try if the medical folks are on board with treating the issues with some simple injection of water. My mom, grandma, and the doctors were strong advocates of simple enemas in lieu of laxatives. They still recommended the dietary adjustments as the first step.

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[> Subject: Re: Never to old to accept an enema


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Susan
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Date Posted: Tuesday, April 29, 2025, 02:51: pm

To you all,

I do read and reread every word of guidance and I appreciate you all.

I am in a bad place right now emotionally. I have been afraid of my own bowel movements all my life.

As a very young child my brain was probably able to forget the suppositories and my resistance to toilet training.

I was not able to block from my memory the Fleet enemas my Doula gave me. They were very upsetting to me and I'm sure those enemas shaped how I modeled (or the lack of modeling) having bowel movements for our children.

I am embarrassed to have to admit I have as much if not more of a problem as our two children because I am an adult and I know better than to withhold.

I am ashamed that I have to be intervened to get my use of the bathroom under control. My sister has taken that control away from me and I am even more scared than ever.

I don't know how I am going to handle this.

Yes Maude we have a master bath and my sister said my daughter and I will have to share that bathroom will she goes back and forth to the other bathroom for our son's enemas. That is a very uncomfortable thought for me. But she says I need to show bravery and maturity for the sake of our daughter.

Our daughter had to have her mini enema last night. I'm allowed to use a suppository when needed. One was needed last night. It was awful. Upsetting.

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[> [> Subject: Re: Never to old to accept an enema


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Shelly
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Date Posted: Wednesday, April 30, 2025, 09:10: am

Susan you don't need to be ashamed of anything. The suppositories you got as a child and the Fleet enemas your Doula gave you scared the little girl inside you that was already afraid of her bowel movements. You probably had a hard poop that you passed when you were very little and just as you don't remember those suppositories you also don't remember that difficult and painful poop. But that's why you have always been afraid of your pooping because your brain remembers it. You got this girl. You can do it. Let the little girl inside that is still afraid to poop accept her requirements now so she can get healthy. It will be a good bonding experience for you and your daughter to go in to your master bedroom and let Auntie clean you two out. Is she going to do a soapsuds enema and then a rinse? Since you say you are only going to do this every other week I think you need a good cleaning with the soapsuds enema first.

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[> Subject: Re: Never to old to accept an enema


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Susan
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Date Posted: Wednesday, April 30, 2025, 11:21: am

I appreciate you so much Shelly.

I'm just having small anxiety attacks out of nowhere.

Daughter and I both had to have mini enema or suppository last night. Dad says she gives him no trouble at all for her mini enema but she doesn't even try to have a bowel movement during the late after noon after school and into the evening.

And I think our son is suspicious that we are going to give him an enema. He is not cooperating with the no flush rule so I can see what his rhythm is with his bowel movements. He lied to me yesterday and told me he had a bowel movement at school but forgot to send me a picture. Then last night he plugged the toilet and it ran all over the floor.

My sister is going to come clean him out tomorrow right after school and then he will also be on schedule in two Sunday's with my daughter and me.

I had bloating and some cramping yesterday I think from the Metamucil. Not too bad though. I guess that is common while your system adjusts.

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[> [> Subject: Re: Never to old to accept an enema


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AV
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Date Posted: Wednesday, April 30, 2025, 09:37: pm

Susan,
Looks like your son’s suspicion of getting an enema is about to come true. And what it sounds like, it’s time. He is producing logs that are clogging the toilet, so a good soap suds and two rinse enemas will be good for him and his bowels plus having him on the daily metamucil will keep his colon on a clean out and not have to wait until a baseball bat log is produced.
Wish you the best Susan. You and your family are on the right track for a healthy lifestyle.

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: Never to old to accept an enema


Author:
AV
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Date Posted: Thursday, May 01, 2025, 04:29: am

Susan,
I decided to come back and add I can relate to your son. I was the exact way. I would always clog the toilet and even pray it would not over flow when I flushed it. Mom would connect my “grumpiness” with lack of going to the bathroom. I bet your son hates going, just like I did, because he probably is slightly constipated and those logs hurt starting off trying to get them out. I hated the pain associated with bowel movements so I would hold and hold and fight the urges until I had a baseball bat, felt 3 feet long, and it wanted to come out. When mom would give me an enema, I thought I could just fight the urge, fight the cramps, and they would go away, not realizing the longer I held the soapy enema in me, the longer it had to work on me, so basically I was helping mom and didn’t realize it. Once the urge to go was over powering, I gripped the side of the toilet, lifted myself up, stretched my feet out and totally relaxed and let that locomotive with 26 box cars come on out. I collapsed with exhaustion afterwards, it took everything out of me, which is exactly what mom wanted. Afterwards, I would go take a nap, giving mom that peace and quit she wanted, so don’t be surprised, your son don’t go lay down after his soap suds and 2 rinses and sleep. I bet he is not an active child, sits all day at school, comes home and sits in front of his game system, and his bowels is not active. He needs movement, moving around to help him with his bowels and also drinking water to stay hydrated. He really needs to look at these enemas as a positive thing for him. He won’t though. But help him by keeping his colon moving. Truth though, once his mind connects his little solider becoming active to the feeling he gets when he receives enemas, his mindset may change toward enemas. Mine did. I was his age 12-13, when that connection was made and even though I hated enemas, the feeling afterwards was great.
Hope to hear some positive news regarding your son and especially your daughter.

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[> Subject: Re: Never to old to accept an enema


Author:
Susan
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Date Posted: Thursday, May 01, 2025, 11:05: am

Yes AV your are describing our son almost to the T. But he is a bright kid. A book worm, likes to read. And of course is playing video games when not reading.

He informed me this morning on the way to school that if we are planning to "put me on the toilet with water in me like you did 'xxxxx' I will hit and kick you so hard!"

I didn't have the courage to tell him his Auntie will be cleaning him out right after school today. I told my sister and she said not to worry he will get his enemas today.

Daughter is doing well accepting her mini enema from dad. I'm doing okay I guess. Just a little emotional still about it all.

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[> [> Subject: Re: Never to old to accept an enema


Author:
AV
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Date Posted: Thursday, May 01, 2025, 02:35: pm

Susan,
Yes, I thought I would be able to do the same thing, kick and hit, but my mom called my 2 older brothers in to hold my arms and legs and I always got mom’s enemas.
I can’t wait to read how your son’s enemas go because if he plans to put up a struggle, he has a rude awakening coming. His will will probably be broken after these first sets of enemas.

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Author:
AV
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Date Posted: Thursday, May 01, 2025, 07:16: pm

Susan,
Also, what does your sister have to say?
Seems she has taken this enema bull by the horns and making sure everyone is cleaned out? I know you are happy for her helping and dad as well.

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Author:
Susan
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Date Posted: Friday, May 02, 2025, 09:23: am

This is a little bit trying to trigger me to even write this.

I had a bad time starting late Wednesday afternoon through yesterday afternoon with bad cramping and I was not able to go to the bathroom.

This is real short but my sister had a little gal come with her who is a nurses assistant and I ended up getting the enemas and not my son. Nurses assistant said she had never gotten that much stool with cleansing enemas before. I was badly impacted.

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Author:
AV
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Date Posted: Friday, May 02, 2025, 09:46: am

Susan,
You have to think of this as a road to recovery.
There will be hills and pot holes but you’re on
your way. We are all proud of you and the leading
by example you are doing for your children.
Take care of yourself as your children are taking
care of as well.

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[> Subject: Re: Never to old to accept an enema


Author:
Maude
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Date Posted: Friday, May 02, 2025, 10:27: am

Susan early on in your posts I sensed that this was coming. In young husbands of pregnant wives they call it couvade syndrome. They can get back pain, constipation and bloating, mood swings, upset stomach, and joint swelling. As if they were pregnant too. You are having sympathetic symptoms of your son and daughter colon issues. And because you are yourself a closet withholder this is going to be a rough road for you. Your body is playing with your hormones and nervous system without your input and you are just along for the ride.

I know you don't want to hear this but since your husband follows our discussion on here this may be for him. You are going to be more susceptible to bowel impaction, constipation and I think you need a weekly clean out for a while. You don't need the three enema series weekly but you need a higher colon flush than just emptying your rectum daily.

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