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Subject: Re: Freedom


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Bob the Biker
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Date Posted: 18:42:25 08/02/09 Sun
In reply to: tim 's message, "Freedom" on 23:09:06 04/29/09 Wed

Tim that's a line from a Sheryl Crow song. The bible is full of junk and causes way more pain and discomfort then any good that ever came from it. The bottom line is that we are all free to think what ever we want. You can believe in the Free Press if you want to. I prefer to take my direction from Nature and leave Man's written word an a category labeled suspect.

The problems in the world are largely caused by people using books to provide guidance. All religions have a simple message which gets corrupted by man attempting to bend the message to serve himself. Over and over gain its right there to see. Those claiming to be in it for the right reasons are really not.

You will never teach people to be nice. Either they are or they are not, simple as that.

If its not free its not freedom

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tim
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Date Posted: 13:05:06 08/27/09 Thu

It has all been said on this thread.

You are absolutely right my biker friend, about being free to accept or reject the gospel message. You are free to follow your path wherever it leads you. keep ridin' them trails and you too can find the answer...

As for teaching people. Teachers are for people who are teachable, not for people who reject the message. Ultimately, the Bible says that we who believe need no one to teach us, because the Holy Spirit IS our teacher. The Holy Spirit knows all things and He lives in me! All I have to do is learn to listen and agree with Him. He knows when to buy and when to sell; when to stay and when to go. He leads me and guides me, but I have to be willing to follow and then attentive to His Way and His Way is the Way of Love.

It's not complicated. It is simple enough for a child to understand. To follow the Spirit means to walk in Love.

When love rules, faith reigns.

When it falters, fear enters in and faith can't work. This is why the Bible says 'there is no fear in love' and 'perfect love casts out all fear.'

The simplicity of the Gospel is this. God is love! Receive the gift of Love that God gave through His Son and you will live forever! No strings! No red tape!

'whoever does not receive, as a little child cannot enter the kingdom of God.'

The kingdom of God is the kingdom of love.

When does it start? It starts Today because 'Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things NOT seen." It is an unseen kingdom, but when faith turns to sight it will BE HERE and it will be SOON.

love, ya'll

T.O. 8/27/09

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