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• Why do you slither out of answering? -- Glyndwr, 16:42:41 12/16/09 Wed
  I Like some of the out of box stuff.. Small 'but'.
  

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• Glyndwr @ numero uno -- RIP, 16:42:11 12/16/09 Wed
  All you have to do is check GS's winning trading days versus losing days.
  You think they are offside gold?
  
  Next?
  

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• A CB holding gold is meaningless -- RIP, 16:39:45 12/16/09 Wed
  ...unless said country is prepared for full scale war on US dollar hegemony.
  None are.
  That is why IMF gold was sold to India.....harmless in a relative context.
  
  China doesn't want it...and will not even be offered it.
  

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• @ just waiting for an answer -- RIP, 16:30:55 12/16/09 Wed -- Glyndwr, 16:38:36 12/16/09 Wed
  Three outstanding questions, actually. But I'll let you off by just asking the last one, again - re. GS -
  
  "RIP - 'But I am deadly serious they are still our golden friends....for now.' -- Glyndwr, 11:47:20 12/15/09 Tue
  Do grace us peasants with information as to when, and who, told you this."
  

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• -- -- Winston, 16:34:28 12/16/09 Wed
  Leap 2020 footnote:
  "...between national central banks and the ECB, the Eurozone possesses 10,900 tons of gold and the United States only 8,133 tons (source: FMI/Wikipedia, 11/2009). Or, more precisely: the US Treasury declares that the United States holds that amount of gold, knowing that there has been no independent audit of US gold reserves for over forty years. We will return to the subject of the true amount of US gold reserves in more detail in the next edition of GEAB (N°41).
  
  Indeed our team believes that in 2010, in a context of explosion of the Government bond bubble, gold is going to become an absolute necessity for central banks."
  

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• @ just waiting for an answer -- RIP, 16:30:55 12/16/09 Wed
  Is..."Will you shit out again?"....an actual question?
  
  I've never heard Tom Jones ask, or sing that.
  

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• @ Yeah! I'm still awake. -- RIP, -- Glyndwr, 16:25:02 12/16/09 Wed
  Jeesus... (Sorry - don't know the Welsh for that..).
  

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• RIP - like querying a Black Hole.. -- Glyndwr, 16:22:08 12/16/09 Wed
  Just always waiting for an answer.. Then you die...
  

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• RIP -- Raja, 16:21:07 12/16/09 Wed
  what' bling?
  

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• time for the hangman's noose... -- siempre33, 16:18:49 12/16/09 Wed
  
  or "horizontalizations" as Chris Story calls them...
  
  
  

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• @ Yeah! I'm still awake. -- RIP, 16:18:08 12/16/09 Wed
  Barely.
  

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• I see Goldman Sachs was wrong again today -- RIP, 15:59:59 12/16/09 Wed -- Glyndwr, 16:15:36 12/16/09 Wed
  Yeah! I'm still awake.. Let's do it. (If you've still got the balls to NOT answer simple questions from a simple mind of a Welsh peoplage of only 3 Million peasants,..)
  
  Will you shit out again?
  (Observers are still scoring..)
  

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• rip: good observation -- ballgame, 16:09:05 12/16/09 Wed
  The TA was ... refreshing.
  

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• @raja @you could store some wealth in exotic spices ... -- mozel, 16:07:56 12/16/09 Wed
  keep them disguised in Morton's Salt Boxes ... should last til The End of The Republic As We Know It ..
  

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• Good point RIP. -- ballgame, 16:05:59 12/16/09 Wed
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• IACAF up 19.8% -- siempre33, 16:05:16 12/16/09 Wed
  
  and I bought more...
  
  http://www.stockwatch.com/oldsite/oldsite_quote.aspx?symbol=IACAF®ion=U
  

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• Raja -- RIP (), 16:02:53 12/16/09 Wed
  Since you are in the US....buy bling.
  Mr.T and Issac Hayes were way ahead of the time.
  

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• -- -- Winston, 16:02:23 12/16/09 Wed
  LEAP/E2020 believes that the global systemic crisis will experience a new tipping point from Spring 2010. Indeed, at that time, the public finances of the major Western countries are going to become unmanageable, as it will simultaneously become clear that new support measures for the economy are needed because of the failure of the various stimuli in 2009 (1), and that the size of budget deficits preclude any significant new expenditures.
  
  If this public deficit « slip knot » which governments gladly placed around their necks in 2009, refusing to make the financial system pay for mistakes (2) is going to weigh heavily on all public expenditure, it is going to particularly affect the social security systems of the rich countries in always impoverishing the middle classes and the retired, and setting the poorest adrift (3).
  
  At the same time, the general context of the bankruptcy of an increasing number of states and other authorities (regions, provinces, federal states) will entail a double paradoxical event of increasing interest rates and the flight out of currencies towards gold. In the absence of an organised alternative to a weakening US Dollar and in order to find an alternative to the loss in value of treasury bonds (in particular US ones) all central banks will have, in part, to « reconvert to gold », the old enemy of the US Federal Reserve, without being able to state the fact officially.
  
  http://www.leap2020.eu/GEAB-N-40-is-available!-Spring-2010-A-new-tipping-point-of-the-global-systemic-crisis-When-the-slip-knot-around-public_a4093.html
  

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• I see Goldman Sachs was wrong again today -- RIP, 15:59:59 12/16/09 Wed
  rotflmao...in a Welsh accent.
  

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• -- -- Winston (), 15:38:04 12/16/09 Wed
  Bob Chapman:
  We do not believe gold and silver are today reflecting reflation. They are reflecting a flight to quality because professionals and a minority of other investors have lost faith and trust in the top 20 central banks. Thus, today we are witnessing a flight to quality and safety. Gold and silver are the only real way to protect against financial calamity and offer possibilities for profit simultaneously.
  
  We started in the gold markets in 1960. We were the largest gold and silver stockbrokers of that time.
  
  http://www.theinternationalforecaster.com/International_Forecaster_Weekly/The_Greatest_Outpouring_Of_Money_And_Credit_In_History
  

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• Impact Silver - Lonestar -- CoralCalcium, 15:56:46 12/16/09 Wed
  Unreal, just when everyone had given up on it. Three years ago, Energold was trading the same way and then it just marched higher nonstop to over 4 bucks. Although I don't expect that, I am hopeful. I don't think this move has anything to do with the 2 recent news releases about drill results. All I know is that there is a "bidder" in there that is drooling every time a sell order comes in. Not sure why; just know it's good whatever it is.
  

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• Dollar -- Raja, 15:51:07 12/16/09 Wed
  IMVHO: The dollar "has to be" made worthless; there is no other choice. Since the dollar is the reserve currency owned by every central government, and we have the printing presses, we would have to make their holdings worth a loaf of bread only. There is no reason for the U.S. govt. to declare bankrupcy when they can print.
  This is the logical, intuitive, and historic choice. No form of government or civilization has "ever" gone out of business any other way than to debauch its currency. In addition, all forms of government have an average life span of about 200 years (we are past that mark). Human nature does not change with the passgae of time or form of government, or our country and its citizens would not have spent themselves silly on borrowed money!
  This is the only time I wish I was living in India where I could convert all my assets into gold and be sure that the government would not confiscate it (they can't because all the people have gold jewelry).
  Real Estate: Although we have overbuilding of housing and commercial real estate (the only reason why they might go down in nominal prices for a while), even these would rise in prices (nominal deflated dollar) to get away from the paper currency. Under this scenario, the stock market could only go up and up; after all, corporations represent claim to hard assets. Their bonds and other loans would be paid off by the sale of just one shirt.
  

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• Hey CoralCalcium: What a whopper of a day for -- lonestar, 15:45:29 12/16/09 Wed
  IPT.
  

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• Chalk up a score for Turbo Timmy -- RIP, 15:34:27 12/16/09 Wed
  ...Just two Americans—out of the 500 notified last month that they were to be outed—have filed an appeal, so far. Switzerland warned them that the jig was up on Nov. 24 and gave them a month to appeal. Another 4,000 people are to have their account data handed over to the Justice Dept. under an August deal between Switzerland and the U.S. government; nothing has yet been divulged.
  
  Of course, maybe there’s not much incentive to fight a losing battle—Swiss President Hans-Rudolf Merz declared Wednesday that the days of the Alpine tax haven are “over”—when the IRS has promised amnesty. Almost 15,000 have already given themselves up, the taxman says.
  http://dealbreaker.com/2009/12/who-needs-an-appeal-when-youve.php#more
  

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• Economystics One-Owe-Won -- 2bro2b, 15:30:47 12/16/09 Wed
  http://falkenblog.blogspot.com/2009/12/nobel-rant.html
  
  http://falkenblog.blogspot.com/2009/12/samuelson-rip.html
  

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• Would like to see us break 1135 here -- Mikikis, 15:23:56 12/16/09 Wed
  Would invalidate us forming the right shoulder.
  

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• Target-Date "Lifestyle" Retirement Funds Take Huge Risks In Junk Bonds -- RIP, 15:23:07 12/16/09 Wed
  Not to mention a 4-5% sales charge.
  Little wonder they must chase junk.
  http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/2009/12/target-date-lifestyle-retirement-funds.html
  
  Wow.
  

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• BTW....this has been the best TA day on Voy in a long while -- RIP, 15:12:59 12/16/09 Wed
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• Looks like 1125 may be next with the ST H&S in POG -- Mikikis (), 15:05:29 12/16/09 Wed
  Hope not.
  

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• Sweeping' financial reforms don't clean house -- Sherlock, 15:00:53 12/16/09 Wed
  By Chuck Jaffe, MarketWatch
  BOSTON (MarketWatch) -- When it comes to protecting consumers from rogue financial advisers, politicians just can't get out of their own way. The result is sound and fury, accomplishing nothing.....
  Consumer Protection Act of 2009: "Nothing in this section shall require a broker or dealer or registered representative to have a continuing duty of care or loyalty to the customer after providing personalized investment advice about securities."...http://www.marketwatch.com/story/sweeping-financial-reforms-dont-clean-house-2009-12-16?link=kiosk
  

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• Greg Hunter --YOU GO GIRL!!! -- ballgame, 14:59:06 12/16/09 Wed
  "I am betting the dollar will be sacrified on the cross of endless debt. I would rather be a year early that just one day too late."
  
  http://www.kitco.com/ind/Hunter/dec162009.html
  

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• In the remake of "It's a Wonderful Life" George never marries because -- mozel (), 14:31:04 12/16/09 Wed
  his true love upsets Uncle Billy by insisting marriage is only between a man and a woman. She is played by Carrie Prejean, Miss California 2009. She marries Potter's son, instead, and manages the Bank of Potterville after he dies ... young ... of prone over exertion. The remake ends with George's angel still looking for his wings.
  

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• And down we go -- Sherlock, 14:53:43 12/16/09 Wed
  Man ! You got to take your profits fast, or they're gone in a flash ! Newmont's day gains are now all gone
  

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• No surprise, BB been out of bullets... -- ballgame, 14:49:51 12/16/09 Wed
  since December 2008. At least the reportable kind.
  
  http://www.federalreserve.gov/fomc/fundsrate.htm
  

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• more upbeat on economy at most...Frus -- Pyrite, 14:47:39 12/16/09 Wed
  The collapse will be GIFT WRAPPED?
  

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• Fed stands pat on key points at last '09 meeting -- Sherlock, 14:46:23 12/16/09 Wed
  By Greg Robb, MarketWatch
  WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) -- The Federal Reserve stood pat on the key points of monetary policy following its meeting Wednesday, pointing to the reluctance of businesses to hire workers as a main reason to hold rates at ultra-low levels...http://www.marketwatch.com/story/fed-stands-pat-at-last-meeting-of-year-2009-12-16
  

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• @RIP @Truth is I hope there's never a remake ... -- mozel, 14:45:40 12/16/09 Wed
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• -- -- Winston, 14:45:24 12/16/09 Wed
  usg has to rollover (ROLLOVER) $2.5 trillion in 2010. On top of that is the 2010 deficit of at least $1.5 trillion. The first two months of the fiscal year totaled $298 billion in the red. War spending and social security funds borrowing are not counted!
  

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• Meanwhile back at the ranch -- Sherlock, 14:39:49 12/16/09 Wed
  Drooy up another 6% today...http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=DROOY#chart2:symbol=drooy;range=5d;indicator=volume;charttype=line;crosshair=on;ohlcvalues=0;logscale=on;source=undefined
  

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• What are the London betting parlor odds on the euro ? -- mozel, 14:36:15 12/16/09 Wed
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• mozel @ 14:31 -- RIP, 14:35:31 12/16/09 Wed
  That's what you call cleaning up all the loose ends.
  LOL
  

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• Well, EUR nudging $1.45 again.. -- Glyndwr, 14:32:15 12/16/09 Wed
  And here we are, much higher than last time it happened, and holding. bbl
  

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• Why is Kristin Davis tormenting Eliot Spitzer? -- RIP, 14:23:49 12/16/09 Wed
  3. Because Spitzer wore black socks during sex
  
  Eliot Spitzer has violated the public trust. His hypocrisy, patronizing escort services while prosecuting others and his lies about the illegal financing of his campaigns for Attorney General should exclude him from any position of trust.His black socks in the boudoir are an additional affront to good taste. His abuse of some of the women I arranged for him to spend time with raises serious questions about his character.
  http://dealbreaker.com/2009/12/eliot-spitzers-stiff-competiti.php#more
  
  I like her already.
  

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• Well.... -- Hambone, 14:23:11 12/16/09 Wed
  bought a bit of DXD 29.20
  

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• Glyndwr/ Donna Reed Dead -- Sherlock, -- Glyndwr, 14:19:49 12/16/09 Wed
  Still got a thing for her. 'It's a Wonderful Life' - a Christmas regular..
  

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• statement -- Frustrated, 14:17:51 12/16/09 Wed
  unchanged...really didn't detect any real changes in the statement...
  
  more upbeat on economy at most...
  

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• Language seems very gold positive -- Mikikis, 14:17:34 12/16/09 Wed
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• Glod spikes on Fed's boring expected. -- Glyndwr, 14:17:00 12/16/09 Wed
  No change.
  

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• No change -- Sherlock, 14:16:39 12/16/09 Wed
  No change...
  

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• one minute -- Sherlock, 14:15:39 12/16/09 Wed
  ......http://www.bloomberg.com/avp/avp.htm?clipSRC=LiveBTV
  

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• Glyndwr/ Donna Reed Dead -- Sherlock, 14:14:34 12/16/09 Wed
  .... I remember coming home for lunch from school and watching the Donna Reed Show reruns. Now that I think about it I probably had a thing for her, way back there, in the good old days...http://www.deadoraliveinfo.com/dead.nsf/rnames-nf/Reed+Donna
  

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• Are you sure it's all about the US dollar? -- RIP, 14:13:43 12/16/09 Wed
  POG seems to be doing fine without any FOREX help.
  

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• Climate Gate -- Smythe, 14:09:16 12/16/09 Wed
  Gordon Brown comes right out and says it: Copenhagen is about carbon trading. 7 minute radio interview.
  
  http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00pbq6r
  
  They are chucking the greenies and and friends of earth out of the conference LOL !
  

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• Who will be first to report the decision of the Federal Open Mouth Committee? -- morbius, 14:09:15 12/16/09 Wed
  It's usually Frus.
  

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• Carmack - I agree with Kip.. -- Glyndwr (), 14:00:16 12/16/09 Wed
  Looks OK for a night or two..
  Longer term, I'd take Donna Reed http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3280/2646924635_c95c987352.jpg
  http://www.johnmariani.com/archive/2007/071230/donna%20reed1.jpg
  
  (Edit - 'Ixquick' won't show a full wonderscape of her. Try a search if interested. I refuse to use google.).
  
  Fed upping. bbl
  

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• RIP -- Mikikis (), 14:05:32 12/16/09 Wed
  Just giving you a hard time with that post last night. Regarding border guards, we have always supported the theory that they pass them through a special screening process looking for childhood traumas and repressed anger issues before they hire them....the more the merrier.
  
  I had one once about ten years ago have us sit there for about a half an hour.....he sat there and crossed his arms all smug-looking and told me that he wasn't sure whether or not he wanted to let me into HIS country. There was nothing legal to keep me out and there was nothing wrong with any of our documentation...he was just in the mood to exert his "power." And all you can do it sit and smile and do your best to keep it inside....or you are toast.
  

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• Carmack/If we could get her on the pathfinder I bet... -- Sherlock (), 13:54:07 12/16/09 Wed
  I bet there would be a lot more rod pulling !
  

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• Mikikis -- RIP, 14:00:45 12/16/09 Wed
  I know I would prolly lose it with a border guard.
  It's no longer worth it.
  
  You want me to show pride in Canada?
  Ha!...I call it as I see it.
  Don't you know how anti-American I am?
  APOLLO and PB1 will tell you all aboot it.
  

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• RIP -- Mikikis, 13:53:42 12/16/09 Wed
  "I have no desire or intention to ever set foot in the US again."
  
  I've heard you say something like this before here, I think when people were getting ready to head to Montana this year....can I ask why?
  

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• dib finds silver -- mugwump, 13:49:42 12/16/09 Wed
  http://biz.yahoo.com/iw/091216/0569866.html?.v=1
  

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• gpr acquisition -- mugwump, 13:49:03 12/16/09 Wed
  http://biz.yahoo.com/iw/091216/0569874.html?.v=1
  

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• siempre fav ipt up 13% -- mugwump, 13:44:46 12/16/09 Wed
  http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=IPT.V
  

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• roan pick cabo up 13% -- mugwump, 13:43:07 12/16/09 Wed
  http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=CBE.V
  

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• I don't think woofing was called for ... Miss Nova Scotia looked like -- mozel, 13:42:58 12/16/09 Wed
  a wholesome pretty girl to me ... my LOL was directed to the expressions on the Canadian Mounter and Mountette
  
  
  

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• cne- the next rubiales up 8% -- mugwump, 13:41:50 12/16/09 Wed
  http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=CNE.V
  

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• canaco up 13% -- mugwump, 13:40:36 12/16/09 Wed
  yeah mama
  http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=CAN.V
  

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• - -- 2bro2b, 13:39:47 12/16/09 Wed
  We are not sure if this is a well known “fact”, but the U.S. government has a record$2.5 trillion of its debt, including bills, bonds and notes, rolling over in 2010. That,my friends, is 35% of the outstanding level of Uncle Sam’s marketable obligations having to be refinanced in one single year. One has to wonder how the Fed is going to be able to raise interest rates in such a backdrop of massive rollovers;
  
  http://www.businessinsider.com/rosenberg-beware-of-sovereign-risk-in-2010-2009-12
  

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• eas is flying -- mugwump, 13:39:30 12/16/09 Wed
  http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=EAS.V#chart1:symbol=eas.v;range=3m;indicator=volume;charttype=line;crosshair=on;ohlcvalues=0;logscale=on;source=undefined
  

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• avl up 10% -- mugwump, 13:38:25 12/16/09 Wed
  i just bought that this am
  http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=AVL.TO
  

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• agi up 8%- merry christmas -- mugwump, 13:35:53 12/16/09 Wed
  http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=AGI.TO
  

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• nsu busts thru $3 -- mugwump, 13:34:51 12/16/09 Wed
  http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=NSU
  

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• Sherlock- wow she is a beauty -- Carmack -- Permabear1, 13:34:26 12/16/09 Wed
  you guys are a buncha animals!
  
  That's ok, I am too... :-0
  

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• "Sherlock- wow she is a beauty" -- Carmack, 13:12:54 -- Kip, 13:31:15 12/16/09 Wed
  i dunno 'bout that....... breasts not o'natural.... & likely she's overly assertive/aggressive in lovemaking (tight upper lip)
  

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• Sherlock -- Carmack, 13:17:31 12/16/09 Wed
  If we could get her on the Pathfinder I bet she could have those drillers singing like jaybirds .
  

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• a nasty Spring for US & Global markets & a sell-off of everything in the process,--APOLLO -- Pyrite, 13:13:36 12/16/09 Wed
  What about January? I correspond with a few espousing your view but also thinking that the enormous market gains of this year will be taken early in January to put them into 2010 taxes.
  Bird in hand and the toughest choice for everyone: "Enough."
  

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• Sherlock- wow she is a beauty -- Carmack, 13:12:54 12/16/09 Wed
  
  

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• NetDania - Short Term Dollar Index -- AU_NB (), 13:02:49 12/16/09 Wed
  While we wait, I've been poking around Earl's favorite chart site, NetDania. Thanks Earl. It does have a lot of technical indicators in addition to be streaming and having several time periods.
  
  Pleased to find the Elliott Wave Oscillator. I hadn't seen that indicator before. It seems to verify/support wave counting, for example, today's dollar Index. Right now, very short term, it seems to indicate, to me, that a pullback remains in order, even if there is a slight rise first.
  
  
  
  
  
  But, anything can happen short term. As always, we'll see.
  
  fwiw
  jmho
  ICBW
  dyodd
  

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• Carmack... -- schilling, 12:58:44 12/16/09 Wed
  she has a beer belly, and no rack... just sayin...
  

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• the Ummayad Caliphate -- 2bro2b, 12:57:57 12/16/09 Wed
  
  http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/6819136/Gulf-petro-powers-to-launch-currency-in-latest-threat-to-dollar-hegemony.html
  
  Asked to comment Mr. Dollar said like a plague of ducks, nibbling.
  

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• Miss Nova Scotia ? -- Sherlock, 12:55:28 12/16/09 Wed
  I guess the girls up there need a little more meat on the bones to keep warm eh! Take a look.. Miss North Carolina...http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.shoppingblog.com/pics/kristen_dalton_swimsuit_green.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.shoppingblog.com/blog/4190915&usg=__ZfOeNqX73TJDHCQY5rsK6DCceTs=&h=543&w=405&sz=52&hl=en&start=18&um=1&tbnid=5eJ7GTm0IxGFXM:&tbnh=132&tbnw=98&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dpicture%2Bof%2B2009%2BMiss%2BNorth%2BCarolina%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dsafari%26rls%3Den%26sa%3DX%26um%3D1
  

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• If you wanna complain about a Nova Scotian...how about Peter MacKay? -- RIP, 12:54:10 12/16/09 Wed
  ...“It's not the time to be having meetings that are implying, intentioned or not, that Canadians are somehow guilty of war crimes,” Laurie Hawn, the parliamentary secretary for the Defence Minister, said on CTV's Power Play after the aborted meeting.
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• Miss Nova Scotia... -- schilling -- Carmack, 12:45:29 12/16/09 Wed
  Yeah right pretend you could land anything even 1/4 as nice.
  

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• I think Jesus would like this movie: -- LSteve, 12:44:12 12/16/09 Wed
  Christianity doesn't need guys like this:
  
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• British Court’s Arrest Warrant for Israeli Politician Surprised British Government -- RIP, 12:33:50 12/16/09 Wed
  ....Writing in another British newspaper, The Independent, on Wednesday, Sir Geoffrey Bindman — who represented Amnesty International in the attempt to bring Chile’s former President Augusto Pinochet to trial on similar charges in 1998 — argued that Ms. Livni was not entitled to immunity from prosecution in Britain under laws that recognize “universal jurisdiction” for war crimes. According to Mr. Bindman:
  
  Traditional immunities — of the head of state, of its diplomatic representatives, and of the state itself — have been sufficient to enable normal inter-state relationships to proceed. But these immunities are being whittled away where international crimes are concerned, and Tzipi Livni appears to have no claim to any of them. She is not a head of state; nor does it appear that her visit has a diplomatic purpose.
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• mozel likes Carrie Prejean -- RIP, 12:30:34 12/16/09 Wed
  For her mind.
  

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• Miss Nova Scotia... -- schilling, 12:24:02 12/16/09 Wed
  woof... I'd hate to see the runner-up...
  

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• Rosenberg rushes to defend the deflationists -- RIP, 12:13:51 12/16/09 Wed
  ... While the headline consumer price index (CPI) for the U.S. came in at +0.4% MoM in November, the big news was it was all energy (+4.1% MoM) and that the core (excluding food and energy) and excluding energy segments of the CPI came in at zero. How do you spell F-L-A-T?
  
  Consider that we have a massive $2.3 trillion Fed balance sheet, near zero rates, the weakening in the U.S. dollar this year, all the massive fiscal stimulus, and the best we can do on the inflation front is ZERO on the core and a three-month trend of 1.5% at an annual rate? There are still too many pockets of deflation to be bearish on the fixed-income market:
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• FOMC circus abounding.. -- Glyndwr, 12:12:37 12/16/09 Wed
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• Miss Nova Scotia with Canadian Mounter and Mountette in attendance -- mozel, 12:10:18 12/16/09 Wed
  
  
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• Mikikis @ drool -- RIP, 12:09:36 12/16/09 Wed
  Nice try....but wrong.
  I have no desire or intention to ever set foot in the US again.
  Does that sound like envy?
  

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• Miniminer -- Hambone, 12:09:22 12/16/09 Wed
  I couldn't express my opinion about what's going on one bit better than you just did.
  
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• Poll reveals depth and trauma of joblessnes -- Sherlock, 12:08:32 12/16/09 Wed
  By Michael Luo and Megan Thee-Brenan
  
  updated 9:17 a.m. ET, Tues., Dec . 15, 2009
  More than half of the nation’s unemployed workers have borrowed money from friends or relatives since losing their jobs. An equal number have cut back on doctor visits or medical treatments because they are out of work....http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34428644/ns/business-the_new_york_times
  

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• direction -- Miniminer, 11:59:27 12/16/09 Wed
  If I had a clue, I think it looks like the bottom is going to drop out of everything at any minute...fed is going to say the same thing and oil will crush consumers.
  
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• Actually -- Carmack, 11:53:45 12/16/09 Wed
  I've had that picture of Selma as my desktop background for ages now. Glad to see you have great taste in females.
  
  Exhibit A -- Mikikis (), 00:10:16 12/16/09 Wed
  Mi querida Salma......
  

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• Apollo: thanks for your advice on GBG.wt -- Snowbird, 11:44:30 12/16/09 Wed
  Your daily updates are priceless to persons like myself. I'm ancient and hoping to get out of most of my remaining stocks by Feb. and just rest on my PM's. Here is a little something that may be of help to you and others. Go to the Dr. OZ site (he is an Opra favorite and has his own daily health show). Take the Real Age Test to see what it is as opposed to your chronological age. The report will outline how you can change your real age favorably. My chronological age is 79 however my real age is 66.6 (no relationship to the dark side I hope). If it helps, I climb 50 flights of stairs in my home every second day at 3 flights a minute at top speed. The accompaniment of fast music helps.
  
  I no doubt will get to see the Big Guy upstairs before you so I will mention your name favorably.
  
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• this usd chart -- WileE, 11:43:13 12/16/09 Wed
  is an end of day chart--it does not show today's negative action. we will update at eod. What it will most likely show is that the US dollar bubble has popped--with a new STO sell signal in place.
  
  The euro has a little problem with the PIIGS.
  
  But we have the war in Iraq, the war in Afgan, the war on terror, the war on drugs. Plus stimulus program "billions for bankers." Nothing destroys a countries' currency like war. Ours is going to hell in a blaze of glory. Don't buy the dollar bubble.
  
  http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=$usd&p=D&yr=0&mn=3&dy=0&id=p37486027665
  

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• :-: -- Kip, 11:42:23 12/16/09 Wed
  
  Spot Gold - a daily chart
  

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• Nice call again WileE -- Kitcotodd, 11:39:51 12/16/09 Wed
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• Dollar still under 25 week m.a. -- AU_NB, 11:38:29 12/16/09 Wed
  The Dollar challenged its 25 week m.a average yesterday, but, so far, has pulled back today. That average has not been broken since the dollar topping process completed in May 2009. Even so, if it were to breach that m.a. on the upside, a pullback and second breach could be required before a significant turn to the upside. See the June-July 2008 period. Significant overhead price resistance remains above.
  
  
  
  We'll have to see what the Boyz can do.
  
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  icbw
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• Oil futures leap 3% as supplies drop; Fed decision in play -- Sherlock, 11:36:43 12/16/09 Wed
  By Polya Lesova & Nick Godt, MarketWatch
  NEW YORK (MarketWatch) -- Crude-oil futures jumped 3% to trade near $73 a barrel on Wednesday, after a report that U.S. crude inventories fell more than expected last week....http://www.marketwatch.com/story/oil-prices-rise-ahead-of-fed-decision-supply-data-2009-12-16
  

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• ok action today -- WileE, 11:35:23 12/16/09 Wed
  yesterday I said it was probably OK to start buying in this area. Today looks alright with indications of a stochastic buy signal barely in evidence. We could still get a double-dip but the rare occasions when we get an oversold slow stochastic (red STO line below 20 level) buying usually pays off. Other positive signs are the MACD bars getting smaller negative.
  
  Things to watch for that confirm a short-term bottom is in (in approximate order of expected occurrence): a break above 13-day EMA and 50-day MA (about to kiss at 177); a new MACD buy signal (bars go positive, lines cross); aroon14 up component reverses back to up trend and down component reverses to down. When the selling pressure abates, any rally could be sharp. You want to be long, imho.
  
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• Gold Has One Super-Spike Left: Strategist -- Sherlock, 11:29:06 12/16/09 Wed
  By: CNBC.com
  Gold has one more super-spike left in it, Al Abaroa, commodity strategist from Options Pro, said on Monday. He predicts the precious metal will rise to $1,300-$1,400 in the first six months of 2010 before losing its luster....http://www.cnbc.com/id/34443484
  

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• Regarding next Spring -- SilverFox, 11:27:37 12/16/09 Wed
  Appolo I tend to agree with you that we will have a major correction and everything will move down again. But after this the goldies will be golden. Stagflation favours goldies and as interest rates slowly move up and people see inflation gold will rise faster and we will be in wave 3 after this correction takes place. That might last a few months to a few years. Well thats the way I see the world
  

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• Oh big box mart... What have you sold to me... -- Sherlock, 11:19:23 12/16/09 Wed
  We used to be your customers now we're your employees.....
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKv6RcXa2UI
  

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• Snowbird - Double-top (D-top) -- APOLLO, 11:16:01 12/16/09 Wed
  no, I like the GBG warrants - that is an "event" stock with production coming on-line next year - stay with it - at least until mid-FEB & then we'll see.
  

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• Apollo: two questions please? -- Snowbird, 11:13:24 12/16/09 Wed
  1. Would you please explain the term D Top
  
  2. In light of the fluid PM situation is it still a good idea to keep our GBG.wt's or would HL or others be a better parking place.
  
  Thanks for your on going advice.
  

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• Thanks Apollo -- Kitcotodd, 11:00:10 12/16/09 Wed
  Some things I am seeing as well, but different from you (daily stochs borderline embedded, HUI double top) which suggest a longer rest. I'm not ready to say it just yet. We'll see how it finishes the year.
  

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• US to transfer Guantanamo detainees to Illinois -- Sherlock, 10:56:58 12/16/09 Wed
  Detainees at the US military prison in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba will be transferred to a prison the federal government will acquire in the state of Illinois, an administration official said on Tuesday....http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.3b306542e31038bc3638f8b13efec9ae.7b1&show_article=1
  

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• So I would say D-top into Feb -- APOLLO, 10:55:02 12/16/09 Wed
  & hope for more, but we'll see. We have a global currency crisis brewing & it looks like the Euro goes first - would have thought us, but now, clearly the Euro - that's bullish the USD. Depends on how the metals respond to that - they should go up with the USD - we wait to find out.
  

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• Apollo -- Kitcotodd (), 10:47:51 12/16/09 Wed
  This is a fairly dramatic change from "we fly into midFebruary" stance earlier this month. Did that unemployment report change your mind? I'm surprised with Presidential Cycles being so dollar bearish that you would think the intermediate term outlook for gold is so poor.
  
  Edit - I'm not sure you said we'd fly exactly... but go up.
  

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• Dead -- Sherlock, 10:53:08 12/16/09 Wed
  http://www.deadoraliveinfo.com/dead.nsf/rnames-nf/Roberts+Oral
  

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• Todd - Combination of The UE Report & other reports -- APOLLO, 10:53:07 12/16/09 Wed
  & the Euro problems have definitely changed my perspective. You can't lock yourself into anything months down the road - just lock-in on that projection & not adjust to info. I thought we were OK until Feb, I still think we run into Feb, but my take is much more modest than it was.
  

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• New limited edition collector plates on sale for investors.. -- last-call, 10:42:30 12/16/09 Wed
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgiCX_y1BW8
  

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• Apollo -- Mikikis, 10:39:45 12/16/09 Wed
  Thx for sharing your outlook.
  

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• Well, let's see... -- WALIAC, 10:35:17 12/16/09 Wed
  
  * Bernanke named man of the year
  
  * Obama wins peace prize
  
  * Miss Piggy gets laid by Kermit the Frog
  
  Hmmm...so much for this mornings' newspaper. Think I'll check Voy and see what's really going on.
  

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• Mikikis - maybe -- APOLLO, 10:27:25 12/16/09 Wed
  The FED is the key. If they make the wrong language change - which I do not expect them to do, then we go to 1,010-1,045 pretty quickly & get toasted & there is a big bet that that's the case. If not, we probably approach or hit a D-top in Feb. We have a grace period for rate hikes & that grace period runs out in 3-6 months. We are not going higher in the face of rate hikes. Obviously, a lot can happen & my take is fluid, but its going to be tough to get to new highs any time soon & yes it could be a long time before we make a significant move higher. That said, I am expecting a nasty Spring for US & Global markets & a sell-off of everything in the process, then we will be back to ways to stimulate & off to the races again.
  

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• Well -- Mikikis, 10:25:01 12/16/09 Wed
  Gold is up $25 CAD since I bought 5 days ago, so that's always nice.....and for the moment Romanov's big buyers are nicely green. We'll see where this heads.
  

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• Protesters beaten by police Danish police arrest hundreds -- Sherlock, 10:24:38 12/16/09 Wed
  Things are heating up...http://www.cnn.com/video/
  

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• Apollo - maybe Feb -- Mikikis, 10:22:55 12/16/09 Wed
  Feb is great for me.....that's only 6.5 weeks away.....
  

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• Apollo -- Mikikis, 10:21:14 12/16/09 Wed
  There was like 7 months of consolidation off that Feb. high, are you anticipating something similar here?
  

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• Calgary beats record set in 1893 -- Sherlock, 10:19:35 12/16/09 Wed
  Calgary has beaten a weather record set more than 100 years ago.
  
  At about 7:00 Monday morning, Calgary dipped to minus 32.4 degrees beating the old record by .2 degrees....
  http://www.660news.com/news/local/more.jsp?content=20091214_210122_3056
  

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• Mikikis - I read you mind -- APOLLO, 10:19:13 12/16/09 Wed
  check the chart out - no new highs this year - maybe Feb
  

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• Take a look at the chart from Feb to Apr -- APOLLO, 10:18:24 12/16/09 Wed
  & then look at the formation since Oct - see any similarities? Looks to me like we have some work to do before we see new highs, but the FED could be a game-changer.
  
  http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/cbuilder?ticker1=GLD%3AUS
  

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• Apollo -- Mikikis (), 10:15:49 12/16/09 Wed
  I'm not sure that it will be clear before $1150 or $1160.....hardly expect to find out today. Maybe you misunderstood my question....I am asking which is more likely here (first) - a return to new highs from this price or a new low ST-MT? Wasn't talking intraday...although that is also a good question.
  

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• Mikikis - we will find out in about four hours -- APOLLO, 10:13:24 12/16/09 Wed
  bounce or continuation.
  

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• From Sherlock's Mexico article -- Mikikis, 10:10:58 12/16/09 Wed
  "“The belief that is driving European and emerging markets is that the U.S. is going to return to being the consumer of their exports,” Ramirez said. “They’re going to be real wrong about this. The American consumer has no way of going out and buying more.” "
  
  Was chatting with friends over in Europe a few days ago and the optimism going forward from here had me somewhat concerned to be honest. This comment seems in line with this.
  

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• bought avalon- lots of rare earths -- mugwump, 10:08:51 12/16/09 Wed
  http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=AVL.TO
  

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• bought qmm- nice jv with revett -- mugwump, 10:06:14 12/16/09 Wed
  http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Quaterra-Enters-Into-iw-2172416931.html?x=0&.v=1
  

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• ass-a-metric warbucks-fare; No Child Left a Behind 2.0 -- 2bro2b, 10:05:37 12/16/09 Wed
  “As it turns out,” the report says, “the ‘synthetic fixed-interest rate’ created by the Qualified Interest Rate Management Agreement was only accurate if several variables in the financial markets behaved appropriately.”
  
  Then there’s the matter of termination payments, which so many municipalities and other institutions, in Pennsylvania and elsewhere, are making right now to get out of interest rate swaps. One school district superintendent said a termination payment wasn’t a loss; it was the cost of refunding underlying debt.
  
  Now the municipality pays the fixed 3 percent to the bank, and the 2 percent to the holders of its variable-rate bonds, and receives, say, one-quarter of 1 percent from the bank on its swap. The municipality is no longer paying 3 percent to borrow money. It is paying 4.75 percent, and there goes the budget. As the Pennsylvania auditor general pointed out, municipalities rarely budget for financial-instrument catastrophe.
  
  This is a simplified version of what happened across the country in 2008 and 2009.
  
  ‘Impenetrably Complex’
  
  The Pennsylvania Auditor General, Jack Wagner, is no fan of swaps. His report concluded that they are “highly risky and impenetrably complex transactions that, quite simply, amount to gambling with public money.” He asked the state to forbid their use, recommended municipalities avoid them “from this day forward,” and advised those who did use them to terminate the things immediately.
  
  Just so nobody would misunderstand, Wagner asked the General Assembly to prohibit the state’s municipalities from using swaps “or any of the specific devices and techniques encompassed therein currently in existence or yet to be invented in connection with the issuance of public debt.”
  
  ‘Yet to be Invented’
  
  http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601039&sid=aVCDZ6c1PYC0
  
  Generalissimo, the Oberfuehrer says we need to upgrade to No Child Left a Behind 2.0..they've wised up.
  
  Generalissimo: Make it so. That was quite an education, coming and going. They never learn. Go with launch while their heads are still spinning.
  
  He also says Sen Pigf*cker wants a little more to push it
  and that jr Rep Hogsnout in the house should be greased to get on board.
  
  Generalisimo: That cunning whippersnapper, already burning both ends of the Stockholm Syndrome candle. He's the makings of incumbent-for-life, just like his dad. Be generous.
  
  "The second lesson is even simpler. You can’t educate the changing cast of citizen financiers in charge of the municipal market to the Wharton or MIT level
  necessary to understand some of the things Wall Street wants to sell to Main Street."
  
  Very liberal in giving or bestowing lavishly, characterized by great liberality or generosity,
  absolutely* munificent.
  
  *intemperately a chilling zero
  

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• Key question -- Mikikis, 10:04:57 12/16/09 Wed
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• Mexico Credit Rating May Be Cut Further, Ramirez Says -- Sherlock, 10:04:14 12/16/09 Wed
  By Andrea Jaramillo and Carlos Manuel Rodriguez
  
  Dec. 16 (Bloomberg) -- Mexico’s credit ratings may be cut further next year as the budget gap swells more than the government forecast, said Rogelio Ramirez de la O, the economist who predicted the 1994 peso devaluation....http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601110&sid=aZNxmWwRvSj8
  

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• Gold cranking up -- Mikikis, 10:00:57 12/16/09 Wed
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• ERHE fans- the big question ?? -- Sherlock, 09:59:27 12/16/09 Wed
  Sopuruchi Onwuka 15 December 2009 -- The partners on these wells are being very closemouthed as no details or results have been issued which leads the industry to wonder just what resources are contained in the JDZ....http://allafrica.com/stories/200912160121.html
  

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• 'Relative'.. -- Glyndwr, 09:57:10 12/16/09 Wed
  'Nuff said, right now.. bbl
  

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• @ Shalom Shalom ... -- MoreGold (), 09:50:36 12/16/09 Wed
  
  

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• Time Magazine Names Hillary Clinton Miss America -- moonshot, 09:44:00 12/16/09 Wed
  http://www.wayodd.com/funny-pictures2/funny-pictures-ugly-hog-1J7.jpg
  

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• CMX -- Romanov, 09:42:13 12/16/09 Wed
  Big buyer around 1130. Feb.
  

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• faber, rogers agree- bailouts won't work -- mugwump, 09:37:20 12/16/09 Wed
  http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article15808.html
  

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• Time Man of the Year 2009 is......................... -- LilDevil, 09:29:16 12/16/09 Wed
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• rby- more great drill results -- mugwump, 09:27:48 12/16/09 Wed
  ya gata wonder when gg will take this over
  http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Rubicon-Provides-year-end-F2-prnews-3617609813.html?x=0&.v=3
  

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• qmi 43-101 -- mugwump, 09:09:38 12/16/09 Wed
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• a reason why snp won't release jdz drill results -- mugwump, 09:08:31 12/16/09 Wed
  http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=44565872
  

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• Good post Mudturtle -- APOLLO, 09:01:33 12/16/09 Wed
  Miner action yesterday was disconcerting. Someone is looking for enough language change by the FED to put this stuff in deep-freeze. That along with the Austrian bank story/Spain/Greece/Ireland - the game is on from JP & Co.
  

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• and on the other hand... -- Sherlock, 09:01:09 12/16/09 Wed
  'Dollar Crisis' Author: 2010 Will Bring More Stimulus...http://www.cnbc.com/id/34442767
  

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• on the one hand... -- Sherlock, 08:59:50 12/16/09 Wed
  Dollar Will Strengthen Further Next Year: Economist...http://www.cnbc.com/id/34433947
  

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• CNBC is on anti-gold spin at the moment -- Permabear1, 08:41:46 12/16/09 We -- Miniminer -- Permabear1, 08:58:28 12/16/09 Wed
  I am very amused at being labeled an oddball wacko goldbug too. I did notice a bit more respect from former coworkers of mine at a recent Christmas party; apparently nothing brings about more respect in our society than being correct about a big investment score.
  
  I'd say we goldbugs should laugh all the way to the bank, but that old expression isn't appropriate any longer as there is nothing IN the bank except blown up derivatives. LOL!
  

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• only two bets in the world -- Miniminer, 08:57:57 12/16/09 Wed
  one is that you have total faith in the fiat system
  the other is total faith in hard assets
  
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• lying about climate change -- mugwump, 08:49:41 12/16/09 Wed
  http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2009/12/025166.php
  

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• Gold holds onto gains after CPI, housing data -- Sherlock, 08:49:41 12/16/09 Wed
  By Nick Godt
  NEW YORK (MarketWatch) -- Gold futures held onto gains early Wednesday, after the U.S. government reported its consumer price index rose 0.4% in November, matching economists expectations. Core prices, excluding food and energy, were flat, while economists expected a slight increase. Gold for February delivery was up 8.30, or 0.7%, at $1,131.30 an ounce in electronic trade. Separately, housing starts rose to a 574,000 pace in November, stronger than the 563,000 pace expected by economists surveyed by MarketWatch.
  

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• CNBC is on anti-gold spin at the moment -- Permabear1, 08:41:46 12/16/09 We -- Miniminer, 08:49:21 12/16/09 Wed
  we have heard this for 10 years from these folks and every year gold goes up more....1999 dow was 11,000 today 11,000
  1999 gold was $250 today $1100
  
  I find it thrilling to be an oddball wacko goldbug. and wear the nametag proudly and slightly offcentered on my shirt...goldbugs came from mars you know.
  

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• Something new and different -- mudturtle, 08:46:42 12/16/09 Wed
  Comex Acts to Curb Speculation (in Gold)
  
  
  Did J. P. Morgan send up a flare as their short positions were taking on water and listing?
  
  "As a heads up, Gold often gets hit with a bear raid on FOMC day. Since the
  miners were hit a bit today with possible front-running that might be a good
  bet. Who can say in these thin markets?"
  Is the US Financial Crisis Over? 1:49 PM
  
  
  And After the Bell...
  
  "The COMEX gold margin requirement is going up overnight. New levels are $5403 initial per contract (the old one was $4500), and $4002 maintenance."
  
  Change you can believe in. Vox pecuniae and all that. LOL Why raise the margin requirments now after a ten percent correction?
  
  The bullion banks (the bears) are edgy because the buying has been particularly robust in the physical metal at this price level, especially the further one gets from New York. Open interest in the futures has been remarkably resilient, showing very little long liquidation. A failure of the commercials is never a pretty sight.
  
  Let's see if the Wall Street Banks can hold their ground and keep shorting into the demand from overseas.
  
  
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• glyndwr re: uncle rip sez china doesn't want gold -- mugwump, 08:46:29 12/16/09 Wed
  does he have a source or a link- i would be happy to change my opinion if presented with salient facts
  

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• CNBC is on anti-gold spin at the moment -- Permabear1, 08:41:46 12/16/09 Wed
  Says one jew to another, ignore the gold bugs and delete their emails. LOL! Their system is melting, melting...
  

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• Who Is a Jew? Court Ruling in Britain Raises Question -- Smythe, 08:02:58 12/16/09 Wed
  This goes to the core of the basis of the creation of Israel. Are Jews an ethnicity or a religion, and if they are a religion then do all religions have the right to a state, and if not , why Israel ? And if you are a convert, without enthnicity, are you a Jew ? How do you measure ethnicity , does a convert mother have ethnic offspring ? Or to put it another way : Who Is a Jew?
  
  Shlomo Sand already answered this question(http://tinyurl.com/2buvg5), but now we have a court ruling in Britain : It is a faith, otherwise if you have a separate school, then it is discrimination :
  
  http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/08/world/europe/08britain.html?pagewanted=all
  

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• The Gold Standard Foundation -- 2bro2b (), 07:40:12 12/16/09 Wed
  non-profit organization based in Switzerland that operates a certification scheme for Gold Standard carbon credits
  
  http://www.cdmgoldstandard.org/
  
  Maybe carbon credit backed currencies? Intrinsic value
  denominated in gaseous pollution? (Oh, wait...) Brita Woods 2.0 Agreement so to speak, same old wine/brandname bottle.
  
  “We’re calling it Constipagen because the line’s not moving and the talks are not moving,” said Jasmine Hyman, who works for the Geneva-based Gold standard Foundation that certifies carbon offsets. She said it took her eight hours to get in."
  
  http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=arV2NyF7o0hw&pos=8
  
  Constipagen on the outside, oral dire Rhea* on the inside.
  
  
  (*Rhea (pronounced /ˈriː.ə/; ancient Greek Ῥέα) was the Titaness daughter of Uranus, the sky, and Gaia, the earth, in classical Greek mythology. She was known as "the mother of gods." )
  
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  “We call it the Brown bottom,” said Ross Norman, referring to Gordon Brown, then the U.K. finance minister and now prime minister. “I think you could argue they are not good traders,” said Norman, a former gold trader
  
  “Central banks recognize the economic crisis could linger,” said William O’Neill, a partner at Logic Advisors in Upper Saddle River, New Jersey, and former head of futures research for Merrill Lynch & Co. “Gold has assumed the front and center position as the alternative currency.”
  
  http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aSmAKY4Wzk7g&pos=6
  
  Suggested name change: Centrifigal Banks a la Yeats,
  Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold; and their
  increasingly pressed printing a centrifuge, spinning ever
  faster separating anything of value. Carbon credit backed currencies, why not,
  we already store, account and exchange values in terms of air and quite a lot of it as of recent.
  Got a ring to'r Vern.
  
  Man of the Year
  
  
  
  http://blogs.wsj.com/source/2009/12/16/bernanke-is-times-person-of-the-year/
  
  MOAB- mother of all bailouts due for replacement with GGGMOAB- great-great-godmother of all bailouts. Time's a-wastin'.
  

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• 'Tungsten Alloy for Gold Substitution' -- Glyndwr, 07:46:30 12/16/09 Wed
  Interesting quote from site - 'Here we declare: Please do not use our gold-plated tungsten alloy products for illegal purpose.'
  This, whilst showing pics of 'Glod' bars!
  http://www.tungsten-alloy.com/en/alloy11.htm
  ('Be afraid?'. Not yet.. But - 'uncomfortable' might help).
  At least they give an 'out' for knowing the difference, via Email..
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• Figgers - An hour or so. -- Glyndwr, 07:34:11 12/16/09 Wed
  CPI, Housing and FOMC later. http://www.bloomberg.com/markets/ecalendar/index.html
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• Willie, Faber and others too, place their reputations on the line... -- Glyndwr, 07:27:30 12/16/09 Wed
  Such intrigue..
  

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• china wants IMF gold -- mugwump, -- Glyndwr, 07:25:37 12/16/09 Wed
  You sure? Uncle RIP sez they don't. Quite embarrassing for the Hambro guys. How dare they question?
  

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• china wants IMF gold -- mugwump, 05:57:45 12/16/09 Wed
  Among the various other movers and shakers in the investment industry who are boldly endorsing this new gold rush is London-based Evy Hambro, who runs two of the world’s largest commodities funds, BlackRock World Mining Fund and the Gold & General Fund.
  
  Another gold advocate who has his finger on the pulse of Europe’s largest financial marketplace is Nick Brooks, head of research and investment strategy at ETF Securities in London. He agrees that the world is witnessing a global paradigm shift. One where major sovereign investors (state-owned investment funds), in particular, are increasingly hedging against an ailing dollar in favor of bullion.
  
  “India is likely just the tip of the iceberg with China, Russia and other major emerging market central banks indicating their interest in building their holdings of gold as part of their diversification away from the US dollar,” Brooks says.
  
  Now there is considerable speculation that other major buyers will emerge among the world’s largest central banks to soak up the balance of the IMF’s overhang on the market.
  
  Certainly China is among them. Its official policy is to exchange a larger percentage of its $2.7 trillion in mostly US dollar-denominated currency reserves for hard assets. China is already the world's leading hoarder of gold, having revealed in April that it held 1,054 tonnes - a jump of 76% from its last official tally six years earlier.
  
  Embry, who has been following the gold sector for over 30 years, believes that Chinese officials must be keenly eyeing the remaining 200-plus tonnes of gold that the IMF has up for grabs. Yet, he notes that Beijing has to date proven to be a shrewd and "very clandestine" buyer that prefers not to over-excite the gold market by signaling its intentions to speculators.
  

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• CB's gold buying continues -- mugwump, 05:54:51 12/16/09 Wed
  http://www.commodityonline.com/news/Foes-turn-friends-for-gold!-23918-3-1.html
  

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• nem has picked up $350 million in cash lately -- mugwump, 05:52:42 12/16/09 Wed
  it's time to buy something
  http://siliconinvestor.advfn.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=26180559
  

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• stanley's book was overdue by 99 years -- mugwump, 05:49:28 12/16/09 Wed
  lol!! the new bedford library waived the fine however
  http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/Stanley-Dudek-waits-New-Bedford-Mass-library-director-Stephen-Fulchino/photo//091215/480/2cb740e23a3b474bb999f7fa198150d5//s:/ap/20091216/ap_on_fe_st/us_odd_really_overdue_book
  

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• lord jim worries about counterfeit gold -- mugwump, 05:45:59 12/16/09 Wed
  Thoughts on Real Gold:
  
  Traditional testing in the past has been by density calculation (mass divided by volume), but tungsten-lead alloys can be created that almost perfectly match the density of gold or silver, thereby rendering that test useless. Additionally, surface testing with acid chemicals or surface x-ray fluorescence is also an invalid test because in these situations, the outer surface layer of the counterfeit bars remains pure gold or silver, it’s only the center core of the bar that’s been removed and replaced with tungsten or lead/ tungsten alloy.
  

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• randgold buys 20% of kibali -- mugwump, 05:40:50 12/16/09 Wed
  http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Randgold-Shareholders-Approve-iw-3959190380.html?x=0&.v=1
  

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• will paas buy out orko?? -- mugwump, 05:39:34 12/16/09 Wed
  http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Pan-American-Silver-and-Orko-iw-2350093054.html?x=0&.v=1
  

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• dollar fading -- mugwump, 05:38:03 12/16/09 Wed
  http://www2.barchart.com/mktcom.asp?code=BSTK
  

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• 100 reasons global warming is crapola -- johnny -- nogtans, 05:00:13 12/16/09 Wed
  Nonsense! you have never been to Kirkwood or Uitenhage , we are kind of holy around here because all the hell has been burnt out of us ,
  it is as Hotazel(actually a different town in the far Northern Cape)
  
  http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2059/2176194159_93ba5abd9e.jpg?v=0
  
  They mine a lot of the worlds Manganese there
  

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• oil and gas found in erhe blocks -- mugwump, 04:52:58 12/16/09 Wed
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• iae- big producer in north sea -- mugwump, 04:48:07 12/16/09 Wed
  going for a lousy $1.15
  http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=IAE.V
  

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• want production of 3,000 bbls/day for a lousy 50 centavos?? -- mugwump, 04:43:06 12/16/09 Wed
  well, do ya??
  http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=CNE.V
  

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• exn a steal at 53 centavos- makes @ $1 million/qtr -- mugwump, 04:40:35 12/16/09 Wed
  http://biz.yahoo.com/ccn/091215/200912150574716001.html?.v=1
  

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• starcore's going for a lousy 17 cents- net income!! -- mugwump, 04:38:35 12/16/09 Wed
  http://biz.yahoo.com/ccn/091215/200912150574429001.html?.v=1
  

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• eas expands resource with great drill results -- mugwump, 04:36:32 12/16/09 Wed
  http://biz.yahoo.com/ccn/091215/200912150574533001.html?.v=1
  

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• xom deal will boost ung -- mugwump, 04:32:48 12/16/09 Wed
  http://seekingalpha.com/article/178389-will-exxon-xto-deal-boost-ung?source=yahoo
  

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• five gold bull stocks -- mugwump, 04:31:33 12/16/09 Wed
  http://www.thestreet.com/story/10646711/2/five-gold-bull-stocks.html
  

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• gold will regain its shine -- mugwump, 04:29:09 12/16/09 Wed
  http://www.theage.com.au/cgi-bin/common/popupPrintArticle.pl?path=/articles/2009/12/15/1260639187865.html
  

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• boogiddy boo -- Bizarro_Greenspan, 04:26:12 12/16/09 Wed
  
  "I am very comfortable with the Feds actions, Wayne Angell says on Fast Money. “The most important thing to remember is the Fed’s balance sheet is not finite. It’s infinite. It can expand.”
  
  This is the dance,of the expanding man.
  

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• Last 20 mins, POG adds £6 whilst EUR flat. -- Glyndwr, 04:24:22 12/16/09 Wed
  'From little acorns', maybe.
  

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• US owns no gold!!- willie -- mugwump, 04:23:39 12/16/09 Wed
  No forecast invites more private anger, insults, dismissive comments, and generally negative email than my forecast made in autumn 2008 of a USTreasury Default. The climax of the string of global sovereign defaults will be the government debt default for the USGovt, in the USTreasurys. Events in the last year support the forecast. Federal deficits are rising dangerously, over a trillion$ annually. The Greenspan-Guidotti criterion for debt default has long ago been triggered, even assuming the USGovt OWNS ANY GOLD. It does not. Rather it owns clear ledger items called 'Deep Storage Gold' that is not deep in underground vaults, but deep in mountain ore deposits, not yet mined, kept very secretive. The short-term USGovt debt is over $2 trillion, closer to $3.5 trillion if immediate debt finance is counted, as in the next 12 months. The Stimulus Bill was a travesty, more wasted funds and opportunities. The TARP Fund was an $800 billion slush fund, clouded still in secrecy. The foreign wars are a sacred big money loser, with more deficits associated. The competent economists like former USFed Chairman Volcker warn that structural reform is non-existent in the USEconomy and financial sector. Volcker further warns that derivatives have done great harm, and contain no value, only a shift of financial rents. The Global Paradigm Shift is in full force since the spring months, led by the twin concepts of diversification out of US$-based reserves, and of the movement to establish an IMF basket currency as an alternative for international commerce and transaction settlement. The end of the US$ for crude oil sales has been written on the walls. The end to the US$ credit card with unlimited balance is soon to end.
  
  
  
  Those people who act as naysayers, even to offer private criticism for the USTreasury Default forecast, seem never to grasp the above arguments, all of which have absolutely zero precedent. They did not foresee many important events, each of which were important Hat Trick Letter forecasts come true. 1) They did not foresee the insolvency of the US banking system. 2) They did not foresee the broader breakdown and wreckage in the mortgage finance industry beyond subprime. 3) They did not foresee the severe whacking to the British Pound. 4) They did not foresee the nationalization and insolvency of fraud ridden Fannie Mae. 5) They did not foresee the downturn and endless US housing bear market decline. 6) They did not foresee the heralded end of the Petro-Dollar, as in exclusive US$ usage for crude oil sales. 7) They did not foresee the Persian Gulf debt shock wave. In fact, they do not foresee anything except the sound of their own voices. THEY WILL NOT RECOGNIZE THE USTREASURY DEFAULT, MOST LIKELY TO COME AS A FORCED DEBT WRITEDOWN WITH DEEP CREDITOR LOSSES. We are in historically unprecedented times. Look for a new USDollar to be used inside the United States fence posts, since the USGovt does not control contracts conducted globally. The devaluation of the US$ will come full circle, and lead to an implosion internally.
  

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• Wayne Angell,former Fed board member,now entertainer says -- Bizarro_Greenspan (), 04:18:49 12/16/09 Wed
  
  The Fed balance sheet is infinite,and why not,sez I.
  
  Who oversees the Fed balance sheet?
  
  Is there some higher power that says...
  
  "Oh,boy,this time you boys have gone too far.Now you're gonna have to pay the price for your largesse."
  
  It does not matter what the Fed buys with freshly conjured FRNs to put on it's balance sheet,that's the whole point of the flexible money,sheesh.
  

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• 99% of americans are against raising the debt ceiling -- mugwump, 04:20:39 12/16/09 Wed
  http://www.zerohedge.com/article/99-americans-are-against-raising-debt-ceiling
  

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• back up the truck now -- mugwump, 04:14:45 12/16/09 Wed
  http://www.safehaven.com/article-15278.htm
  

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• gpr article -- mugwump, 04:10:52 12/16/09 Wed
  http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-investor/investment-ideas/features/schizas-mailbag/silver-mines-in-mexico-for-the-risk-tolerant/article1400751/
  

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• intrepid resource calculation -- mugwump, 03:56:59 12/16/09 Wed
  http://biz.yahoo.com/iw/091215/0569619.html?.v=1
  

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• federal reserve holdings- willie -- mugwump, 03:55:05 12/16/09 Wed
  http://67.19.64.18/news/GoldenJackass/2009/12-15gj/2.jpg
  

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• federal reserve is insolvent-willie -- mugwump, 03:53:31 12/16/09 Wed
  Two major billboards must be written and read. 1) The USFed is insolvent. 2) The USFed is dangerously over-leveraged. According to its latest report, the US Federal Reserve owns over $1 trillion of mortgage backed securities, equal to 45.6% of the entire portfolio. One year ago mortgage backed securities were under 1% of its total assets. Actually the number was 0.6%, to make a 76-fold increase in toxic mortgage bond assets on the USFed balance sheet. The credit market actually believes the USFed stepped in and helped the system. But in doing so, they killed themselves. Just like other major banks such as the Wall Street firms, the USFed is very highly leveraged. The USFed carries $2157 billion of debt on $52.8 billion of capital, producing a leverage ratio of 40.8 to 1 ratio. Think over-leveraged, insolvent, and dead, but not yet declared dead. They might actually resign their commission contract with the USCongress, and thereby force a USTreasury Default!!
  
  
  
  Here is where the insolvency risk screams out in obvious manner. Its listed mortgage bonds are 19 times greater than its capital, equal to 5.3% in inverse. So therefore, if the true value of these toxic assets is actually 6% lower than their recorded book value, the US Federal Reserve capital is depleted, effectively rendering it insolvent. It stands to reason that if Fannie Mae is insolvent, if Freddie Mac is insolvent, and if monetization supports their bonds, while the market shuns them, then the true value of the mortgage backed securities with their brand is less than 94.7% of their book value. Therefore one might safely conclude that on a strict accounting basis, the USFed is effectively insolvent. My simple guess is that the USAgency Mortgage Bonds on the official USFed balance sheet are worth perhap 30% to 50% less than cited on their books. That would leave the USFed insolvent by 15% to 25%.
  
  
  
  One might wonder of motive for the USFed to offer big banks an interest yield on assets held on account. The reason might be to shore up its broken toxic balance sheet and fight off their own insolvency. The USFed remains liquid because banks continue to provide it with funding. Few if any questions come regarding the US Federal Reserve liabilities. The USFed is insolvent, just like the USGovt, just like the Social Security Trust Fund, just like the FDIC, just like US banks, just like US homeowners, and just like US leadership!!!
  

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• smythe .. -- Delta-au (), 03:47:27 12/16/09 Wed
  fwiw .. a few nukes .. nuutralise dem pop odds ..
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  but it dooone quell their F E A R ..
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• @Israel bluster - Bizzaro -- Smythe, 03:36:25 12/16/09 Wed
  behind the bluster is raw knee knocking fear. Behind any bluster is fear. 5 million surrounded by 1 billion. Even they can do the math.
  

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• More slightly boolish stuff on Freewest and friends in the chromite corridor -- Bizarro_Greenspan, 02:31:20 12/16/09 Wed
  http://rof-miningcamp.blogspot.com/
  
  Yar,thar she blows,the great chromite whale.
  

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• Nuclearson;KWG,Probe,Fancamp -- Bizarro_Greenspan, 01:30:49 12/16/09 Wed
  
  KWG is already involved in the takeover,due to the JV with Freewest,the Big Daddy project.
  
  They also bought out the NSR royalty on the Freewest ground.
  
  They set a subsiduary called it Canada Chrome,rumour has it that they may use this as a financing vehicle for the entire project.
  
  That's a wild one.
  
  The stock price is rather moribund of late,it's weird that the market does not take KWG any higher,since it is obvious they share a portion of the overall deposit with Freewest.
  
  Chromite appears to be the Rodney Dangerfield of ore deposits,another major in the McFaulds picture would be cosmic.
  
  Rumours of white guys with weird accents in Webique,could be XStrata,mebbe they're just looking for some birchbark canoes.
  
  Probe's got chromite too,Fancamp's got a great real estate straddle and a nice tight share structure.
  

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• staring contest -- messy79, 01:20:12 12/16/09 Wed
  they are too big !
  

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• Pashtuns,the largest tribe on the planet -- Bizarro_Greenspan, -- nogtans, 01:18:08 12/16/09 Wed
  yes , and that is where the West rushed in like a headless chicken
  
  http://pakhub.info/2009/pakistan-afghanistan-border-is-a-settled-issue/
  
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• relax,mozel -- Bizarro_Greenspan, 01:07:57 12/16/09 Wed
  
  Nato will sell them out too in the end,it's just business,they'll understand.
  

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• Pashtuns,the largest tribe on the planet -- Bizarro_Greenspan, 01:05:11 12/16/09 Wed
  
  They straddle the Afghan-Pakistan border,the border means nothing to them,an arbitrary line drawn by the stinkin Brits,another group of loosers from the past!
  
  They have never been conquered,they never will be conquered,Afghanistan is a centuries old meat grinder.
  
  But that's all ancient history,and totally irrelevant too.
  
  In today's complex world,we must confront the terra that threatens our way of life.
  
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• Canadian media discussions on Afghanistan -- Bizarro_Greenspan, 00:54:14 12/16/09 Wed
  
  never include the words; Pashtuns,Tajiks,India, Turkmenistan,pipelines.
  
  Don't know how you can always manage to overlook all that stuff,all the time,but they do a great job of it.
  

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• The Real Jewish Peril -- mozel, 00:51:07 12/16/09 Wed
  In considering the immense problem of the Jewish Power, perhaps the most important problem with which the modern world is confronted, it is necessary to divest oneself of all prejudices and to enquire in a spirit of scientific detachment whether any definite proof exists that a concerted attempt is being made by Jewry to achieve world-domination and to obliterate the Christian faith.
  
  That such a purpose has existed amongst the Jews in the past has been shown throughout the earlier chapters of this book. The conception of the Jews as the Chosen People who must eventually rule the world forms indeed the basis of Rabbinical Judaism.
  
  It is customary in this country to say that we should respect the Jewish religion, and this would certainly be our duty were the Jewish religion founded, as is popularly supposed, solely on the Old Testament. For although we do not consider ourselves bound to observe the ritual of the Pentateuch, we find no fault with the Jews for carrying out what they conceive to be their religious duties. Moreover, although the Old Testament depicts the Jews as a favoured race—a conception which we believe to have been superseded by the Christian dispensation, whereby all men are declared equal in the sight of God—nevertheless it does contain a very lofty law of righteousness applicable to all mankind. It is because of their universality that the books of Job and Ecclesiastes, as also many passages in the Psalms, in Isaiah, and the minor prophets, have made an undying appeal to the human race. But the Jewish religion now takes its stand on the Talmud rather than on the Bible. "The modern Jew," one of its latest Jewish translators observes, "is the product of the Talmud."805 The Talmud itself accords to the Bible only a secondary place. Thus the Talmudic treatise Soferim says: "The Bible is like water, the Mischna is like wine, and the Gemara is like spiced wine."
  
  Now, the Talmud is not a law of righteousness for all mankind, but a meticulous code applying to the Jew alone. No human being outside the Jewish race could possibly go to the Talmud for help or comfort. One might look through its pages in vain for any such splendid rule of life as that given by the prophet Micah: "He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the Lord require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God?" In the Talmud, on the contrary, as Drach points out, "the precepts of justice, of equity, of charity towards one's neighbour, are not only not applicable with regard to the Christian, but constitute a crime in anyone who would act differently.... The Talmud expressly forbids one to save a non-Jew from death, ... to restore lost goods, etc., to him, to have pity on him."806 - Nesta Webster
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• Delta -- Bizarro_Greenspan, 00:47:07 12/16/09 Wed
  
  
  it's pretty bizarre,what they can get away with.
  
  When I was a kid,I went thru the "Animal Farm","1984","Brave New World" phase.
  
  You look at the world around you at the time,circa 1975,note the trends,then project yourself into the future,say 35 years.
  
  Never forsaw this gong show,it's so pathetically lame and transparent,it's almost beyond belief!!!
  
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• @ thanks for the laughs -- crazytimes, 00:44:54 12/16/09 Wed
  "Turning 102 is crap, and there is nothing to commemorate,"
  
  Does this guy post here?
  
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• Those Mounties in the beauty queen photo -- Bizarro_Greenspan, 00:36:40 12/16/09 Wed
  
  Should be tasering somebody,there's trouble in the air.
  

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• Bizarro .. -- Delta-au, 00:35:01 12/16/09 Wed
  excellent reasoning .. do you work for the State Dept or Defence?
  
  always laff that they refer to it as "Defence" ..
  should be called the Dominance Dept ..
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• see,these nato guys are a little bit insane -- Bizarro_Greenspan (), 00:27:43 12/16/09 Wed
  
  They reckon they must use any kind of evil available to them to use on the evil ones,because if we don't defeat the evil ones,the evil ones will win and they will be evil to us and make us fight their wars and bad stuff like that.
  
  We don't want that,so we must be evil to the them,so we can defeat their evil and live in peace,because we like peace,we even got the nobel peace prize winner running our chicken shack.
  
  That's about the crux of their argument,eight long years later,they keep spitting it out,the MSM keeps pumping it out and the masses keep buying it.
  

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• Rick Rozoff,the numero uno NATO watchdog,grrr,bark,bark -- Bizarro_Greenspan, 00:21:10 12/16/09 Wed
  
  "The crisis confronting the world is not only the war in South Asia: It is war itself. More particularly, the recklessness of the self-proclaimed sole superpower and the military bloc it heads in arrogating to themselves the exclusive right to threaten nations around the world with military aggression.
  
  If that policy is not brought to an end by the real international community – the more than six-sevenths of humanity outside the greater Euro-Atlantic world (as it deems itself) – Afghanistan will not be this century’s last war front but its first and prototypical one. Portents are of even worse to come."
  

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• Hey Carmack -- Mikikis (), 00:13:22 12/16/09 Wed
  Anything in Nova Scotia look like Salma? Didn't think so....
  http://www.flickr.com/photos/52786021@N00/3687924577/
  
  Baarf.....lol...actually she isn't that ugly...bet she looks better holding lobsters.
  

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• Nothing like a Mexican woman -- Mikikis (), 00:05:56 12/16/09 Wed
  To melt away the frigidity left by Canadian women. Thank God for the French Canadians...almost make up for the icicles that are the Anglo girls.....Brrrr...and high maintenance as well......
  
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• Exhibit A -- Mikikis (), 00:10:16 12/16/09 Wed
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• And don't get me started -- Mikikis (), 00:06:56 12/16/09 Wed
  On the "hogging" experience that is the American woman. Unless getting hot and heavy in a pan of crisco gets you off......
  

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• Mikikis, -- Carmack, 23:56:05 12/15/09 Tue
  Just wondering when you were living in Canada if you drooled all over those vacation pamphlets to Mexico !!!!lol
  

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• tiger been trading the lean hogz -- BUFFORD, -- Carmack, 23:53:43 12/15/09 Tue
  Thats the Mikikis make up photo !!!!
  

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• Carmack -- Mikikis, 23:51:20 12/15/09 Tue
  I'll be sure to let you know when your evaluations are of importance to me.
  

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• I got one of these to work in the UK -- Mikikis, 23:49:49 12/15/09 Tue
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Working_holiday_visa
  
  Wonderful opportunity for young people IMO.
  

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• tiger been trading the lean hogz -- BUFFORD, 23:49:09 12/15/09 Tue
  
  
  

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• Waliac -- Mikikis -- Carmack, 23:48:27 12/15/09 Tue
  Very poor and irrational explanation Mr Magikkas !
  

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• "0ur GuyZZ d0n't werk" -- Mikikis, 23:46:47 12/15/09 Tue
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• 100 reasons global warming is crapola -- johnny, -- Carmack, 23:46:00 12/15/09 Tue
  Hey JD don't forget those rising ocean levels and grey smoke belching outta those smoke stacks !
  

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• To be fair -- Mikikis (), 23:45:17 12/15/09 Tue
  The U.S. is good for exactly the same thing as England is good for: Making money in strong currency, and ideally leaving as quickly as possible with maximum amount of said currency in hand to spend in poorer countries. I know few other reasons why people travel to either these days.
  

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• Micky @ Duzz He P0$t Here -- Gila_Bob, 23:45:56 12/15/09 Tue
  Friend:
  
  N0pe...........
  0ur GuyZZ d0n't werk...............L0L
  
  Big Bob
  

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• Does this guy post here? -- WALIAC, 23:43:04 12/15/09 Tue
  
  He used to, but his optimism got in the way.
  

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• WALIAC -- Carmack, 23:41:50 12/15/09 Tue
  "Says the Canadian from Mexico..."
  
  Ha ! Good one !
  

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• Does this guy post here? -- Mikikis, 23:38:37 12/15/09 Tue
  Guy turns 102, what does he say?
  ""Turning 102 is crap, and there is nothing to commemorate," he told AFP."
  
  http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20091215/en_afp/brazilarchitectureniemeyer_20091215211041
  

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• I think Robin Williams said it -- Mikikis, 23:35:23 12/15/09 Tue
  The U.S. is the huge frat party and Canada is the kind of boring guy living in the loft next door.
  

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• Goldfish - Then this may be equally true: -- WALIAC, 23:34:34 12/15/09 Tue
  
  Mexican = Canadian in sandals.
  

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• Waliac -- Mikikis, 23:34:06 12/15/09 Tue
  It's easy to see why U.S. citizens would hate their country these days....it is merited, at least the hate for the ruling class and government. But not all nations are crapping on the rest of the world and causing economic Armageddon. Some places aren't as terrible as your homeland. No offense of course :)
  

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• D0n't $weat It Micky -- Gila_Bob (), 23:28:37 12/15/09 Tue
  Friend:
  
  The$e Guy$ d0n't Like Their 0WN C0untry, Either
  
  Big B0b
  (I did n0t menti0n THAT Clean-Up on Ai$le 2
  And IT inv0lved Ar$0n............L0L)
  

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• don't shoot me -- Goldfish, 23:30:37 12/15/09 Tue
  heard this on some comedy show the other day:
  
  Canadians = Mexicans in sweaters
  
  I did have a giggle. **
  
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• Don't worry... -- WALIAC, 23:30:26 12/15/09 Tue
  
  I don't think anyone is all that proud of their respective countries right now.
  
  National pride, like our currencies, is in a race to the bottom.
  
  I don't know why people seem to think they need the parasite class.
  

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• Jesse Ventura spent most of his time recently in Mexico -- Mikikis, 23:23:41 12/15/09 Tue
  Does that take away from his pride as a U.S. citizen? Don't think so...in fact I'd say that he should be celebrated for his pride in his nation. Yet he lived most of the year in Mexico for a few years recently.....
  

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• And I sure as sh_t don't have Gringo envy -- Mikikis, 23:17:14 12/15/09 Tue
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• Waliac -- Mikikis, 23:16:02 12/15/09 Tue
  Canadian LIVING in Mexico...not from Mexico. Big difference. As a (soon to be)dual national I take pride in both my countries.
  
  I can live the rest of my life outside Canada and will always be Canadian by birth and citizenship.
  

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• have some pride -- WALIAC -- Earl, 23:11:05 12/15/09 Tue
  Too-shay!
  

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• A$ Witne$$ed Thi$ $ummer -- Gila_Bob (), 23:10:07 12/15/09 Tue
  Friends:
  
  @ the Sault Ste. Marie Mega Walmart...........
  
  Expl0$i0n 0f Canadian Nati0nali$m 0n Ai$le 3......
  Thi$ will bee a WET Clean-Up
  
  L0L
  
  Big Bob
  (mU$tta bin The L0w L0w Di$c0unt Price$........L0L)
  

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• Ronald MacDonald recycles. -- mozel, 23:09:21 12/15/09 Tue
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• have some pride -- WALIAC, 23:02:53 12/15/09 Tue
  
  Says the Canadian from Mexico...
  

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• "recycling is for bozos " -- Mikikis (), 22:56:19 12/15/09 Tue
  God threw a convenient self-burying mechanism in the Mozel recipe. Kind of makes it unfair sometimes...all you have to do is throw him a shovel and get him to talk enough about anything for long enough and you get one of these gems.....
  
  Sincere tip for Mr. Mozel: Your apparent inability to separate the smart stuff from the stupid stuff (and thus presenting them as equal on a daily basis) chips away slowly at whatever credibility you may have in these parts.
  

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• Winston -- WALIAC, 23:01:06 12/15/09 Tue
  
  And that $52.8 billion was no doubt created through fractional reserve, giving them a real net worth of somewhere around a used condom.
  

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• RIP -- Mikikis, 22:59:45 12/15/09 Tue
  Nothing more pathetic than a Canadian who wishes he was from the U.S......you have a bit of drool on your chin as you gawk south......have some pride......
  

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• -- -- Winston, 22:45:17 12/15/09 Tue
  Jim Willie:
  The USFed carries $2,157 billion of debt on $52.8 billion of capital, producing a leverage ratio of 40.8 to 1 ratio.
  
  The USFed is insolvent, just like the USGovt, just like the Social Security Trust Fund, just like the FDIC, just like US banks, just like US homeowners, and just like US leadership!
  http://www.financialsense.com/fsu/editorials/willie/2009/1215.html
  

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• 100 reasons global warming is crapola -- johnny, 22:22:23 12/15/09 Tue
  http://www.dailyexpress.co.uk/posts/view/146138
  

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• Decisions, decisions... -- WALIAC, 22:13:30 12/15/09 Tue
  
  I haven't decided whether to go with t-shirts or bumper stickers yet:
  
  BO Stinks!
  

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• @goldfish @glad you got good cheer from it ... -- mozel, 22:09:36 12/15/09 Tue
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• therms of heat in a bundle of $1 bills? -- Miniminer, -- Rack, 22:07:07 12/15/09 Tue
  When they printed the bills on just one side the Government
  was totally mystified as to the RISE in the value of the money. "you can now use the back side for writing notes and letters" came the answer.
  After listening to the talk radio today here locally it best to keep your mouth shut and cover your own ass. THERE IS NOT CLUE OUT THERE!. I have partnered with several people with different skills, abilities and machinery for when TSHTF
  Probably have to fight big brother for anything we produce
  

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• @"We are a buncha wimpshits" -- mozel (), 21:57:37 12/15/09 Tue
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• Chuck Norris says impeach Obama if ... -- Romanov, 21:53:40 12/15/09 Tue
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxTDjTurMbE&feature=player_embedded#
  

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• I can't even keep up with the programs -- Miniminer, 21:44:27 12/15/09 Tue
  bush $200 2002
  bush $1200 2007
  obama $250 ss rebate 2009
  obama $7500 house rebate
  obama $4500 car rebate
  obama 99 weeks unempl benefits
  obama $450 tax credit 2009(payroll reduction)
  obama $12,000 cash for caulkers coming?
  obama bridge buildout $787 billion (OR $20,000 per family)
  
  can't stop now, need more!!!!!
  

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• Miniminer.........be sure to hide your wheelbarrows.... -- AZAU, 21:42:23 12/15/09 Tue
  "Keynesian One-Wheelers"
  

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• Miniminer..........dollar bill burning is against the law......shame on you! -- AZAU, 21:40:05 12/15/09 Tue
  Then again, there is no evidence.
  

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• I remember talking to Bart years ago about the paper problem -- Bizarro_Greenspan, 21:36:06 12/15/09 Tue
  
  He didn't seem like to act and talk much like a gold bug,more like a gold warehouseman.
  
  It was a glitch in the matrix,good golly.
  

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• therms of heat in a bundle of $1 bills? -- Miniminer, 21:36:01 12/15/09 Tue
  I wonder how many bundles of $1 bills it would take to keep my house warm at night?
  
  I recall the stories of Weimar where they only printed the money on one side because the ink was too valuable and another story about the bills being as economical to burn for heat than fuel oil. One that was beyond belief to me a short time ago was the story of a 5 star hotel selling for one gold coin(not a room, the whole hotel!)but thats for midnight dreams.
  

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• "Inflation unlikely to continue".....yes, but only if the debt defaults continue... -- AZAU, 21:35:09 12/15/09 Tue
  Rise in wholesale inflation unlikely to last
  Industrial production, wholesale inflation up more than expected in Nov., as recovery advances
  
  * By Martin Crutsinger and Daniel Wagner, AP Economics Writers
  * On 2:46 pm EST, Tuesday December 15, 2009
  WASHINGTON (AP) -- Evidence that the economic rebound could eventually raise inflationary pressures emerged in a report Tuesday that wholesale prices surged last month.
  
  _____________________________
  
  Collapse can also bring on Hyperinflation.
  witness zimbabwe.
  
  Most economists aren't worried, though. They think the economy remains too weak for the price increases to last.
  

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• World politics are all about -- entropy, 21:33:40 12/15/09 Tue
  misdirections and deflections. All of it. If you haven't figured that out by now there is not hope for you. It's the same game the magicians play but there is no magic.
  

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• yo,mudster -- Bizarro_Greenspan, 21:32:53 12/15/09 Tue
  
  Do you not see the parallel in the aftermath of the third world debt blow-up of the early '80's?
  
  Perhaps the Euroweenies have a similiar scheme.
  
  All that USD debt was used as a club for years.
  

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• As Goldman Thrives, some say ethos has faded" -- AZAU, 21:31:15 12/15/09 Tue
  This is the Human-Tripe understatement of all time.
  
  http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/16/business/16goldman.html?_r=1
  

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• The Unbearable Heavyiness of Being Nadler discussed here -- Bizarro_Greenspan, 21:27:15 12/15/09 Tue
  http://static.seekingalpha.com/article/175012-gold-bears-stop-sector-from-overheating
  
  "One way that Kitco sells gold is through their "Pool Accounts." You give them cash for gold that they claim to keep in storage for you. As gold continues to climb there will come a point in time that many Kitco clients will demand to have their stored gold delivered to them. But will Kitco actually have it? Is there a good reason why Kitco's only gold annalist has been a gold bear all these years? Think about it folks. Does MacDonalds advertise that hamburgers are a bad product to consume? Does Ford warn their prospectve customers that cars are unsafe? Of course not! They are in the business to sell their products, not discourage people from buying. So why do you suppose Kitco pays Nadler to write a daily article on how gold is such a bad investment and highlights his writings in bold each and every day?
  
  Perhaps there is good reason why GATA awarded Nadler the moron of the year award the past two years in a row. But the truth is that Nadler is not a fool. He just has an agenda. If you can't see that by now then it is not he that is the fool. "
  

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• astonishing numbers from Philharmonic issuer. -- mudturtle (all fall down- 2010), 21:23:01 12/15/09 Tue
  “To put things in perspective, Austrian banks have emerging-market financial exposure exceeding $290 billion. Austria’s GDP is only $370 billion.”
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  As for me, I cannot see how any of this is going to hold together as just about all big banks and many countries are insolvent. How to hedge 2010/2011 is the question of the century.
  

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• AZAU - There is nothing we can do -- morbius, 21:19:57 12/15/09 Tue
  Totalitarian gummint ain't the answer. Just GATA let nature take its course. We are going to make a BIG splash on the pages of history (even if there no earthlings left to read it).
  

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• Iraq looks like the last mad scramble for cheap energy sources ... -- AZAU, 21:18:32 12/15/09 Tue
  No worry, however, it will all be gone very quickly, with so many willing to pay with cheap 'merkan Treasuries....
  
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• Congress to main street: "Let them eat [shit] cake" -- AZAU, 21:13:47 12/15/09 Tue
  Democrats propose $50B for jobs-boosting projects
  House Democrats propose $50 billion for infrastructure projects in new jobs-boosting plan
  
  * By Andrew Taylor, Associated Press Writer
  * On 8:10 pm EST, Tuesday December 15, 2009
  WASHINGTON (AP) -- Responding to calls among rank-and-file Democrats for more infrastructure spending, House leaders Tuesday unveiled a plan to add almost $50 billion in spending on highways, housing and school repair as part of a year-end plan to create jobs.
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• @ step and fetch it. -- RIP, 21:10:48 12/15/09 Tue
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• Those who are not educated, do not have the capacity to know what -- AZAU, 21:09:35 12/15/09 Tue
  or how much they do not know. Specifically, RIP looks like an example of this. In fact they feel like veritable genui, so vast is their ignorance.
  

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• The massive new fleet of ships being built by China is not to deliver more shit to WalMart.... -- AZAU, 21:06:36 12/15/09 Tue
  It is to fetch more resources and everything else for china.
  
  They did this once before, and historians suspect they had a huge fleet plying the world at one time centuries ago. Then they turned suddenly inward and stopped. We may not be so lucky this time.
  

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• So sayeth Malthus -- RIP, 21:03:46 12/15/09 Tue
  BS.
  
  Wanna purchase a child credit?
  

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• china and oil and gas........they are coming to get it... -- AZAU, 20:59:12 12/15/09 Tue
  they long ago stripped their own end of the world, and will continue until the entire planet is bare. That is the way they do things in China. They long ago deforested china. People think this growth is good...wait til they crank out millions of cars per year. Their billion people will consume it all. The planet will look like the aftermath of locusts...
  

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• Of course -- Bizarro_Greenspan, 20:52:22 12/15/09 Tue
  
  All Iraqi state assets are vested in the US Treasury,so everything might come out OK in the wash.
  

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• add all those new Iraqi barrels up -- Bizarro_Greenspan, 20:49:36 12/15/09 Tue
  
  It's over 5 million bbls/day,and the USA is going to let all that go?
  
  What about all the blood and treasure jibba-jabba?
  
  What is their game?
  

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• Bizarro_Greenspan, -- Carmack, 20:47:44 12/15/09 Tue
  Grrrrrrr !!! lol
  

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• it is near the end -- Miniminer, 20:31:20 12/15/09 Tue -- entropy, 20:47:25 12/15/09 Tue
  I agree with you at this time. I had been on the fence between inflation and deflation for the past year. To me, it is now clear, the liquidity injected into the system has overcome any deflationary pressures that have existed. The battle now will be between inflation and the political will of the Fed to fight those pressures. I don't think the Fed is willing to take a strong position nor are the Chinese who really control the future direction.
  

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• miniminer...........Keynesians gone wild.......yes, the whole bailout mentality -- AZAU, 20:46:32 12/15/09 Tue
  will carry the massive mess over the cliff....
  
  good riddance.
  
  The final climax of fiat (fraud) capitalism....and we have the best seats in the house...
  
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• Carmack,easy there,big boy -- Bizarro_Greenspan, 20:45:20 12/15/09 Tue
  
  I love it,"the reality of the potential",that should be our mission statement.
  

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• Reality of the Potential -- Bizarro_Greenspan -- Carmack, 20:43:19 12/15/09 Tue
  Yeah don't hurt yourself ! Meaning it has "real potential" as opposed to a kind of "vaporous hype" with no substance as Hamhocks was suggesting !!! Surely you should be able to understand the differentiation !
  

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• Empire -- Bizarro_Greenspan, 20:42:43 12/15/09 Tue
  
  They all stand for empire,we won it,fair and square.
  
  Now,we don't want to let it go,who would?
  
  So all the rules we wrote in our glory days now go right out the window,one way or ANOTHER.
  
  All the rest,(politics in general)is complete diversionary bullshit.
  
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• Could this guy gregg from NH be any more -- kapex, 20:40:34 12/15/09 Tue
  in the pockets of the banksters?
  
  http://www.cnbc.com/id/15840232?video=1359416416&play=1
  

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• Pepe Escobar on big Iraqi yard sale -- Bizarro_Greenspan, 20:35:38 12/15/09 Tue
  http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/KL16Ak02.html
  
  "Cheney's and Rumsfeld's script was never supposed to develop like this. Instead of US Big Oil getting the lion's share, strategic competitors Russia and China turned out to be big winners. Dick Cheney's "consolation prize" was an Exxon-Mobil-Shell alliance getting the phase 1 of West Qurna in early November. Exxon-Mobil had been the favorite to also win Rumaila (17.8 billion barrels of reserves). But a BP-CNPC (China National Petroleum Corporation) alliance got it in the end because unlike Exxon-Mobil they agreed to cut their fee per barrel down to the Oil Ministry-enforced $2.
  
  CNPC (50%), along with partners Total from France (25%) and Petronas from Malaysia (25%), was also a big winner for Halfaya (4.1 billion barrels of reserves, projected output of 535,000 barrels per day (bpd)), southeast of Amara.
  
  Petronas again (with 60%), and the Japan Petroleum Exploration Company (Japex), with 40%, will invest a cool $7 billion to develop Gharaf (reserves of around 860 million barrels, projected output of 230,000 bpd). Bidding was fierce. Losers were a joint Turkish-Indian bid, a Kazakh/South Korean/Italian consortium, and Pertamina from Indonesia.
  
  A Petronas-Shell alliance got the highly coveted Majnoon (reserves of more than 12 billion barrels, projected output of 1.8 million bpd), near the Iranian border. Russia's Lukoil (85%), with junior partner Statoil (15%), got phase 2 of the immense West Qurna (located 65 kilometers northwest of Basra; about 12 billion barrels of reserves; projected production of 1.8 million bpd) - which in theory it had already bagged under Saddam Hussein. When Lukoil was stripped of its contract by Saddam, it blamed US-instigated United Nations sanctions, while Saddam blamed Lukoil itself.
  
  West Qurna's phase 1 (8.7 billion barrels of reserves, with a projection to increase output from 300,000 bpd to 2.3 million bpd before 2016) was won in November by the aforementioned Exxon Mobil-Shell alliance. Losers were Total from France, a consortium of Petronas, Pertamina and Petrovietnam, and a BP-CNPC alliance.
  
  Gazprom (40%), with junior partners TPAO, Kogas and Petronas, got Badra (projected production of 170,000 bpd). Unlike the mad scramble for the southern fields, no one even bid for the East Baghdad field, for obvious reasons: it's located in a virtual war zone."
  

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• B_G @ Well,all our politicians do not stand up for Canada -- RIP, 20:31:42 12/15/09 Tue
  No kidding.
  Nor do the US breed.
  Both stand up for a mutual interest.
  I'll leave that to your imagination.
  

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• it is near the end -- Miniminer, 20:31:20 12/15/09 Tue
  ...I can feel it now, the hyperinflation is just gathering steam....soon you'll need a stimulus/subsidy just to pay for grocerys--like a 'Kroger Card'...lol
  

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• every day there is new spending bills -- Miniminer, 20:28:47 12/15/09 Tue
  yesterday, Obama says he's going to spend $150billion on cash for caulkers and today Pelosi pops off with another new spending bill to extend unemployment and subsidy for insurance....they can't even count it fast enough
  
  http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Democrats-propose-50B-for-apf-1316281313.html?x=0&sec=topStories&pos=main&asset=&ccode=
  

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• RIP -- Bizarro_Greenspan, 20:27:29 12/15/09 Tue
  
  Well,all our politicians do not stand up for Canada,they stand up for the current relationship.
  
  So does the CCCE and the owned media,and most of the people of the country as well.
  
  So it goes,RIP,most people don't even care,perhaps,if they had an ability to think rationally about the implications of all this,it might be different.
  

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• - -- faloffal, 20:21:30 12/15/09 Tue
  http://www.dailyfx.com/forex/fundamental/article/fx_correlation/2009-12-15-1713-Forex_Correlations_Update__Euro_US_Dollar.html
  
  Forex correlations against Oil, Gold, and the S&P 500 for the past 30 calendar days:
  

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• B-G as a side note -- RIP, 20:20:36 12/15/09 Tue
  That chubby, greasy haired guy at the Canucks' games is the absolute best anthem singer I have ever heard.
  He almost makes me wanna sing.
  

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• Bizarro_Greenspan -- RIP, 20:14:41 12/15/09 Tue
  I'm arguing we are not a sovereign nation.
  We are a buncha wimpshits who will huddle down even closer by the border when the word 'boo' is spoken.
  
  Ask Skinee.
  
  I have never been more disgusted with my country.
  

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• RIP,you seem to think -- Bizarro_Greenspan (), 20:09:17 12/15/09 Tue
  
  I'm arguing that we are a sovereign nation,whatever,we are completely interwoven when it comes to mutual defense.
  
  We aren't getting a free ride,despite what Hambone and all those dipshits on FOX say,we paid our dues,bigtime.
  

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• Human rights,who gives a hoot when you're playing the great game -- Bizarro_Greenspan, 20:06:15 12/15/09 Tue
  
  "There is still no dearth of a resource base if Washington and EU capitals to push their trans-Caspian gas pipeline projects. The Turkmen recently government announced that it intended to raise its gas exports to 125 BCM/y by 2015.
  
  From the US perspective, that target seems reasonable enough to make a robust pitch for Nabucco in the short term even though Yolotan-Osman's gas will take time to be extracted for exports.
  
  The US will make a pitch on behalf of Western companies as regards providing expertise. The deck has already been cleared. Washington no longer harps on the human-rights records of Kazakhstan, Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan, nor is it appealing to Western governments to pressure the Central Asian states and Azerbaijan into making fundamental democratic reforms.
  
  As an American commentator recently put it: "It has become clear this year that the need for energy supplies has pushed rights concerns to the background in discussions with the Turkmen government".
  
  Such pragmatism is not new to US diplomacy and Ashgabat can be expected to take note. So the graph of US expectations is curving up sharply. Washington would have had prior knowledge of the GCA's audit.
  
  A US expert on the Caspian region wrote: "The implications of the [GCA] audit results are momentous for European and trans-Atlantic energy security... Brussels and Washington can encourage Western companies to become involved in developing South Yolotan-Osman, Yashlar and other Turkmen gas fields with west-bound pipeline outlets via Azerbaijan [and Turkey] to Europe. This could significantly counter-balance...Gazprom's dominance in European markets". But he added: "Conversely, the Kremlin will...seek privileged access for Gazprom to the newly ascertained Turkmen resources, acting pre-emptively against the West.
  
  "By combining those new resources with its own volumes, Gazprom would boost its dominance in Europe to impregnable levels for a long time to come".
  

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• The only real currency standing is the ruble. -- RIP, 20:05:10 12/15/09 Tue
  Why?
  Because everyone hates it.
  But they cannot make it disappear.
  
  I'm sure it's a work in progress.....lol
  

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• Chrisalias - stay flat until we hear what they say -- APOLLO, 20:02:41 12/15/09 Tue
  let the Euro bounce & then short it. Its going down for sure. The 5-day HUI is sitting on an H&S - we either bounce up to shoulder length into the FED news, or go down tomorrow. Bottom line, the Euro makes our situation very precarious.
  

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• RIP - Ben speaking of glod... Geat Expectations -- AU_NB, 19:58:45 12/15/09 Tue
  Thanks
  
  Another interesting line:
  
  "A number of measures of expected future inflation in the United States, including measures taken from inflation-protected bonds and surveys of consumers and professional forecasters, have been well contained."
  
  Just looking at TIPS and Gold:
  
  http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=TIP&p=W&yr=2&mn=0&dy=0&id=p95259960387
  
  fwiw
  

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• Canuck sovereignty is as much a fairy tale as the nuked yen -- RIP, 19:58:44 12/15/09 Tue
  ....or the fire bombed euro.
  
  IOWs...it's all kiss ass.
  

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• The vast overhang -- Bizarro_Greenspan, 19:58:16 12/15/09 Tue
  
  Of paper gold obligations,we won't be held responsible,it's the free market,watch it work.
  

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• Benny B. -- Bizarro_Greenspan, 19:55:36 12/15/09 Tue
  
  Talking FreeGOLD,like FOA used to talk about on the gold trail.
  
  That's wild,wild stuff,it they let it go,the market will have to rationalize itself.
  
  They can't be held responsible,they fell in love in the first place.
  

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• looks like they'll need Iranian gas -- Bizarro_Greenspan, 19:50:38 12/15/09 Tue
  
  To fill their cherished Nabucco pipeline.means the whole Iranian nuke sales promo might get the ol' heave-ho.
  
  That would be a real shame.
  
  Cut 'em loose, Jethro,
  

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• The tungsten and canadian takeover -- entropy, 19:47:44 12/15/09 Tue
  talk today was quite amusing - misguided, but amusing.
  

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• The Growing Movement to Nullify National Health Care -- mozel, 16:38 -- Goldfish, 19:46:30 12/15/09 Tue
  Thanks for the encouraging news. Interesting site also
  

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• RIP -- Bizarro_Greenspan, 19:44:20 12/15/09 Tue
  
  What the hell are you talking about?
  
  We have a say,we have a share of the world conquest pie,my friend.
  
  It's a joint effort,we supply the joints,we're better at that.
  

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• Selwyn sells half the lead-zinc cow -- Bizarro_Greenspan, 19:41:21 12/15/09 Tue
  
  For 100 million dollas,not too shabby.
  
  Huge deal,with Chinese folks,they get stuff done,quick.
  

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• Tell ya what, Bizarro -- RIP, 19:37:37 12/15/09 Tue
  Erect a blockade on that Alaska highway, in Canuck territory....then see who comes after ya.....or who tosses the heater.
  

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• Greenie will be beaming -- Bizarro_Greenspan, 19:37:02 12/15/09 Tue
  
  If you love something,set it free.
  

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• You're wrong,RIP -- Bizarro_Greenspan, 19:34:11 12/15/09 Tue
  
  it was a joint undertaking,look at the Alaska Highway,just a small part of the story,that was.
  

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• Here's Ben speaking of glod....check out the last line -- RIP, 19:34:01 12/15/09 Tue
  ... Gold is used for many purposes, including as a reserve asset, as an investment, and for use in electronics, automobiles, and jewelry. Thus, fluctuations in the price of gold can reflect changes in demand associated with any of these uses, as well as changes in supply. In monitoring the price of gold, the Federal Reserve must attempt to interpret which of these factors is responsible for its fluctuations at any point in time. One of the ways we do this is by consulting other indicators of market sentiment. A number of measures of expected future inflation in the United States, including measures taken from inflation-protected bonds and surveys of consumers and professional forecasters, have been well contained. Accordingly, increases in the price of gold do not appear to reflect increases in the expected future of U.S. inflation.
  http://www.zerohedge.com/article/bernanke-adopts-decoupling-discusses-gold-does-not-think-1200-gold-direct-affront-all-things
  

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• Freewest sells the cow for some magic beans -- Bizarro_Greenspan, 19:29:33 12/15/09 Tue
  
  The scuttlebutt has it there is over 200 million tonnes of high quality chromite bearing rocks laying about,that's just over 1 stinkin FRN per tonne.
  

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• USA has no junior partners, -- RIP, 19:22:37 12/15/09 Tue
  They only have degrees of slaves.
  It has never changed.....since the 'good war'
  
  Who, oh who, will tell the emperor he has no clothes?
  
  I know what people I admire.
  

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• Canada is USA junior partner -- Bizarro_Greenspan, 19:14:37 12/15/09 Tue
  
  We get place on winner's podium after the big one,WW II,we's small but we is there.
  
  Always was joint defense of the shared homeland,we don't got the monetary hegemony angle,so the USA can buck up,what the hell,it's all free stuff at the end of the day anyway.
  

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• mozel walked into a pole or something -- Bizarro_Greenspan, 19:08:24 12/15/09 Tue
  
  got bifurcated.
  

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