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Subject: Re: Inner-Roundtable #2 Author: BradPierce5 [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 18:27:01 04/23/02 Tue In reply to: MODERATOR 's message, "Inner-Roundtable #2" on 10:41:42 04/22/02 Mon "I just have to look at the big picture. I just have to accept that if this is what it takes for them to make the games they do - I say bring it on." How does a lack of hype, advertising, and actually giving out information make better games? Hell, if that was the case, Nintendo would be the trend setter, and not the outsider. And Kevin, while I appreciate your utter devotion to Shigeru, I am sorry to say that he doesn't do everything at Nintendo. At least he'll take some interviews. What this comes down to (beyond game quality, Nintendo's "legendary" status, or anyting else) is that Nintendo is like the grumpy old man who won't budge. And I'm sorry. That attitude cost them dearly in the PS1/N64 generation. Make all the excuses you want, but their stubborness hurt them, and put them in the race for 2nd, instead of being the industry leader in the console race. You are right, Kevin. I'm not worried about Link and Mario, and I don't think anyone in their right mind should be. But those two games bring up a scary thought for me, and one that makes me absolutely loathe Nintendo's overly secretive nature. What happens when Zelda and Mario have had their "Gamecube moment?" Will they resurrect old franchises like Kid Icarus, Earthbound, and Punch-Out! Where Mario and Zelda can carry themselves on their name (everyone knows Mario and Zelda), older franchises, or worse yet, NEWER franchises need a strong backing. If you hear about a game called Marionette at a trade show, you need proof that this game is a new franchise worthy of Nintendo lore. A trade show launch is absolutely brilliant. But I stress once again that the current state of video gaming is where once you bait the hook, you MUST constantly make the gamer want to bite. Nintendo does this swimmingly (pun intended) in May and August. What about the other 10 months? Nope. They let their worm dabble in the shallow waters where no one can see, let alone take the bait. [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> [> Subject: Re: Inner-Roundtable #2 Author: KevinCube [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 22:55:12 04/23/02 Tue Brad - I thought we were finished? [i]How does a lack of hype, advertising, and actually giving out information make better games? Hell, if that was the case, Nintendo would be the trend setter, and not the outsider.[/i] A) Nintendo [b]is[/b] the trend setter and B) I din't mean those things physically assisted in the development process, silly. I meant that they're a small price to pay IMO for the worlds' best games. :p As far as what the future holds, I see no reason to worry. GameCube is a solid 2nd place console the world over already - and that's without being available in europe yet. As the games come out, we'll see that second place look less and less significant. But like I said on our former ditched topic, Nintendo is a Letterman and Sony is a Leno. One is legendary, yet the other is currently the pop culture icon. As time goes on, 'Cube will look more and more like "Lenoman." It hasn't even been a year since launch. And I don't think Shiggy does everything. I know he is the head of all the major games, though. And what he does tell me about his upcoming games - I believe. He has quite the track record. Lets' turn this over to the board, man... [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: Re: Inner-Roundtable #2 Author: KevinCube [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 22:57:15 04/23/02 Tue EDIT:: "Didn't" Above post^^^ [ Post a Reply to This Message ]