also -- Notes from Zarahemla Political Forum

[ Show ]

Support VoyForums

[ Shrink ]

VoyForums Announcement: Programming and providing support for this service has been a labor of love since 1997. We are one of the few services online who values our users' privacy, and have never sold your information. We have even fought hard to defend your privacy in legal cases; however, we've done it with almost no financial support -- paying out of pocket to continue providing the service. Due to the issues imposed on us by advertisers, we also stopped hosting most ads on the forums many years ago. We hope you appreciate our efforts.

Show your support by donating any amount. (Note: We are still technically a for-profit company, so your contribution is not tax-deductible.) PayPal Acct: Feedback:

Donate to VoyForums (PayPal):

[ Login ] [ Contact Forum Admin ] [ Main index ] [ Post a new message ] [ Search | Check update time | Archives: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, [6], 7, 8, 9, 10 ]

[ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

Date Posted: 07:37:38 09/05/05 Mon
Author: Jean
Subject: also
In reply to: Abish 's message, "I meant that" on 21:59:41 09/04/05 Sun

there were nursing homes that were not evacuated!
I couldnt beleave that!
My heart is sadden.

I'm sorry if I came off as harsh.
I just had a.....disagreement with a lady from our ward who said...well you know this is why we should listen to the prophet! Most of these people werent LDS so of course they didnt listen. She also said if they had a water supply(bottled water) then they could now dive into their flooded homes and get their water, because she sure would!
Oh my GODDNESS!!!!!
Have you ever seen flood waters? They are not nice, clean, and clear like swimming pool water! They are dark, merky, foul and full of jumbled debre(sp?)
Lots of these houses are under water deep enough to come up to the roof or cover the roof(as is the case with the brother of a lady I work with). How praytell is anyone going to be able to hold their breath long enough to dive in the merky flood water that deep, find their bottled water(remember floods dont always leave things where you put them!) and get back out with enough water to make the whole dangerous trip worth it? I wonder how long one would have to hold their breath? O2 tanks arnt usually on our list of storage items!

I know you didnt mean anything by it. I was just agreeing with you. But my feathers are ruffled by the coldheartedness of our own members, who should know better!

Also she said Well.....if they had food storage they could dive in the flood waters and get it out, open it and eat and drink.
I reminded her that the foul waters(with rotting bodies, chemicals etc....) will have contaminated the cans and that they would have to be cleaned off BEFORE you open them to avoid becoming deadly ill. I asked how in the world they were going to do that! She just poofooed me.

I am so sorry If it seemed I took my ruffled featheredness off on you. I did not mean to.

This whole thing is heart breaking.

I wonder how many children have died or stranded or have lost their parents?

I wish there was more I could do but pray and throw spare change into buckets at Walmart.

I wish I could be more cheerful and not so glum but how can one be when being unable to do more then wring ones hands and be sad.
If we get some of the refugees here in my hometown in Eastern Kentucky(our town has voluteered to take about 150 at some empty dorms on campas)then maybe I could volenteer to help in some way.

I hope we can each..if only in some small way...find a way of helping these poor souls...instead of just saying well they should have known....they should have done what ever....then just go on our merry way thinking we are so good and so righteous because we listen to a prophets voice so we NEVER need to worry about such things!(I know this is not what you are doing!)
I beleave any of us no matter how prepared we are could face something that is as terrible or worse one day. This smugness could come back to bit us on the you know what one day!

I beleave though that the people on this board are not like this, but good and kind and compassionate souls who understand because of our attempts at being prepared, at being able to take care of ourselves also know from our attempts at educating ourselves that things can go wrong.

I just feel sorry for those who do not feel the stirings of compassion within their souls for this people who have and are going through this terrible, horriffic thing.

I had a dream last night that our Lake(man made...created by the daming of a river)Cave Run Lake had a massive flash food. I dreamt that somehow the kids and I were above the lake watching huge waves come over the massive forested hills(how that was possible I do not know since from our vantage point that we were watching does not exist in reality, but the seane that I saw does, we have swam there many times). We watched this wall of water come from across the lake(the lake is longer then wide) from the side the people on the beach could not see. In this wall of water were cars, logs, etc.... We watched helpless as the people(families) on the beach(well the people in the water) were swept away. We watched as the people who remained on the beach were runing around frantic.
I dont know how we could watch this since in my dream we were about 200 ft in the air right on the beach and there is'nt any structure there.
But in my dream the kids and I went down to the beach and found a little girl floating in the water. She was alive!
I picked her up. I remember her face. She was this adorable little black girl, about 3 or 4 yrs old. I have never seen her before. She was young enough she didnt know her parents name. She was crying for her daddy. We tried to call 9-11. It wasnt working. We tried to get her to some place( dont know where) by walking further down the beach but could not go far because of the HUGE wall of silt and rock that blocked our way. So we took this little girl home to us(but it was a different home, never saw it before) and looked for some clean cloths for her and found that my friend had already left some clothes just her size for us.

Then I woke up!

What I remember most about the dream is the feeling of helplessness, watching those people, those families in the water being washed away. I remember not understanding what it was we were seeing coming over the forested hills or why it was happening(the trees werent being riped up or flattened). I remember that flash flood and the bebre in it... mostly cars. I remember the frantic running around of the people on the beach as they tried to reach the people in the flash flood being swept away.

I dont usaually remember my dreams. And I havent been losing sleep over this thing. I wasnt scared in the dream. I felt very busness like going down to the beach to see what could be done.
But I do remember holding that little girl in my arms and her putting her arms around my neck, her head on my shoulder crying for her daddy.

I just want people to have more compassion in their hearts for their brothers and sisters who are in this horrible, tragic thing. NO ONE deserves this. This could be any of us. And no matter what we feel about the government, or of the Bushes or the Clintons or any of those Turkeys in Washington...lets take care of what needs to be taken care of(watch them of course)first. lets save lives first. Then we can look at who is to blame,if anyone, and hold them accountable.

anyway I did not mean to growl at you but to support what you said. I know you are not amoung the compassionless.

So lets each do what we can and maybe this ,after all is said and done, will help our communities and families do more to prepare but also understand that sometimes no matter how much we prepare we can be caught off guard.

Blessings
Jean

[ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

Replies:

I totally agree -- Abish, 10:01:53 09/05/05 Mon
- oh and........... -- Abish, 10:41:44 09/05/05 Mon
- well-said, both Jean and Abish -- Mary, quite contrary, 16:29:00 09/19/05 Mon