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Date Posted: 13:20:53 01/09/11 Sun
Author: Andrew J
Subject: I actually went so far as to copy edit this bad boy, thought I'd throw it up top too.

For good measure.


“ Now, why so indignant about me pointing this out in a public forum?”

DKH, read your first post in this thread demanding I take a photo off My site.

Then ask yourself if you should have expected a polite response ?

And let me get the peanut gallery out of the way, cause they don’t warrant individual attention, but I gotta confess I’m amazed at how few there actually are. I mean I just walked into the Church of DKH and said the emperor is not only naked, but human, and the odds of getting a good Boerboel from him, are probably not much better than anyone else.... at least let’s hope so, judging from my experience.

I mean that’s like walking into a Catholic Church and announcing Jesus ain’t coming.....cause he never lived....... and I know who did Mary.

That’s like walking into a mosque.... drunk, eating a bacon sandwich, and announcing “ due to recent political events, there’s been a run on virgins in the next life and well.... their won’t be any for an indefinite period, so from this day forward were only recruiting gay suicide bombers “

This yellow board should rightly be swarmed with DKH proselytes fair foaming at the mouth with indignation, you’ve probably peddled thousands of Boerboel puppies, there should be enough believers out there to crash the server. I should be getting private hate mail, death threats, etc.

Given I’m standing in your church, fair urinating on the microphone of your alter, I would say the relative lack of din is a defining show of support for yours truly ! Who have we heard from ? Two people that eat at at your house regularly, and two guys who haven’t made enough sense or been around long enough to register a mental image for me, the grand ol jock rider himself, and one Brit, whose been trying to get a dog from you for a decade, but can’t cause she insists on health testing, which apparently none can pass ??

Surprise, surprise, maybe words reverberate for some ?

See difference between you and I David, is I’m about the same privately as I will be here, which kinda makes this more dangerous for you then me, if more entertaining for the audience. And I suspect you’re brighter than your handful of devoted a$$ kissing minions, and as such, took the bit about “losing half “ as it was intended. But, given the defensiveness and complete lack of humor in your spirit squad regards the remark, I have to consider the possibility I hit a nerve.

In which case let me say two things, one of which I said already

I wouldn’t have teased you about if that if I thought it was true, even if you are an insufferably arrogant prick, you do have your redeeming qualities.

But if it is, you might really consider the two house marriage option. You did ask me to “take notes on it” remember ? So here they are.

Works like a charm !

I think we’ve been going about it all wrong actually, as a society, seriously. The wife turns up Friday, kids in toe, I’m excited as hell to see her ! We do the happy family thing all weekend, Saturday is the peak of domestic bliss, Sunday well... less so, by Monday.... well I’m equally excited to see her go...... AND SHE DOES, cause she can :)
But my house is clean, my fridge is full, my balls are empty... and it’s quiet. Feel me ? Then I get one day of quality time with one child, one with another, a couple to myself or to share with.... whoever. Before you know it it’s Friday and we do it again. I highly recommend it, to anyone contemplating splitting the sheets, particularly where children are involved.

Oh, and “Tina” I’m not sure where you found an unkind word for Misses Harris in what I said, you probably need to read whatever I write a few times over, I don’t like to write for the lowest common denominator.

David I suspect you full well see the connections I draw, both those made in jest and ernest. But if you want to play dumb, I’ll spell it out for you... or your followers... or whoever reads this dying jaundiced board anymore.
Having known, watched, and scratched my head over you, and the apparent contradictions between your On-forum persona ( complete with unending holier then thou rhetoric, puuulease spare me more of that self aggrandizing noise ) and the honest guy I kinda liked. Having gotten enough of the sundry backstories on your and Blackwells dogs, having had three of the four dogs I’ve taken from the Kansahoma triangle turn out to be complete and utterly bullet worthy garbage, the only way I can understand you is at least as mercenary as most everybody else. Maybe more experienced than many, but somebody protecting his piece of the marketing pie, that’s the only way your contradictions make sense to me, thats the only lens through which it all makes sense.

Hence the reference to money. But if you don’t have money problems-- I don’t know what your excuse is, ego problems, Napoleon complex? in any event you got some nerve to speak to my “nature” and “character” And Blackwell, I’ll just come out and call you an A$$hole “why bother” being cute about it.

The main difference between you two, in my book, is Blackwell never tooted his own horn as much nor claimed such lofty motivation, would have been a tough sell-- granted. But you both use the same dogs, a person can’t tell where one ends and the other starts, if anybody ever gets a written pedigree that will be very clear. David posts a photo of a dog chasing a cow every now and again, the stupid a$$ choir applauds, the grand pooba ass kisser lends his blessing.

Then he can turn around and say you “test” his dogs and it’s a tight little circle. We can be asked to forgive the fact they sit in cages all their lives and don’t do a dam thing otherwise, but breed. There is a word for this Blackwell/Harris relationship it’s called parasitical. And you can both kiss my a$$.


Meanwhile the USBA which should rightly reflect 52 states, and it’s forum a diversity of breeders and owners nationwide, has shrunk ( as never kinda word can be said for anybody else breeding dogs ) to an inbred cult of DKH worshippers, half of which reside a stones throw from Coffeyville and went to high school with you or some such, their posts are as predictable to your typing as “amens” at a sermon. Clay, if I can find a cheerleading outfit that will fit your fat ass I’ll send it. And JWV untill I get censored I don’t have anything in common with Mr. Pittman, who was allowed to say all manner of crazy things and make physical threats against women and such on the yellow board until he did guess what ? Said an unkind word about DKH, then he got silenced, and only then.

And I’m not buying this whole notion that showing photos of a dog behind my dogs is unscrupulous in any way !

“it is poor form, terrible manners, ethically repugnant, morally reprehensible”

REAlly, why ? Cause you say so ?

Nightrain is the father of Doc who is the mother of Hope who is the mother of my bitches. It is what it is, get over your self, it’s really got almost nothing to do with you. “my good dog” You didn’t even breed the dog, if Gisson where to come whining he’d have more credibility. Don’t you feel a little silly crying about a photo of a dog that fell in your lap ?

Photos you emailed me! They don’t have big C’s on em, they don’t say don’t use without permission. If ever there was a chance I’d take it down to please you, you blew it up in the arrogant manner you brought it up.

I show photos of the dogs behind my dogs where I can, if I had more going farther back I would show them to, I try to say something good about those dogs and their breeders where I can, to the extent that I can. And I’ll be doing much the same with my Kangal dogs, Dogos, etc when I get around to it.

You just told me I sold a puppy for you from folks who found photos on my site that kindly referenced your name. Would it be better to show the dog without mentioning who owned it ?

As for your daughter being in the photo, I didn’t know who that was, and don’t much care. If you’ve got a profile photo of the dog without her in it email it over, if I like it better I’ll swap it out. Seeing as you’ve got the same photo on your site I guess there is nothing inherently wrong with the photo though,
“ pirating photos of my daughter” that’s a bit dramatic, a bit misleading, don’t you think ?

As for who told me Night Train came over as an adult,
“ tell or be labeled dishonest “ That would be a good example of your arrogance, as if you could dictate the terms, as if I care about your label. He told me a lot of things, most of which about Blackwell, in confidence, which is where he will remain. I personally don’t care when Nightrain came over, was just trying to qualify the source, if I was inclined to make things up I could do better, I’m sure.

But I have gotten some interesting emails since I dared to question the great leader. Let me include one here between the quotes, one of your crew ( was that Marshrat from Louisiana ? Who dat SEA DAT :) asked where my supporters are, I’d say this is one, and she is a dam site more eloquent than yours, I’ve asked for permission to print the name, if it’s granted I’ll include it later, if not I won’t. Check it out.

“I believe you and I have had our differences in the past, but I could NOT resist sending some appreciation your way. I WISH I could have said it half as well as you posted on the yellow board. 

And if David is so savvy to the cow world, I'm sure that he would know a reference sire picture when he saw one..... 

I may have been misled in the beginning, but it didn't take me long to get a pretty good idea about those Yellow Board Idols and their oblivious worshippers. Could have been a very useful site, but I'd rather stay away from shining shoes and just talk dogs. 

I have had almost every post I've put on that site deleted when it was simply put there to communicate health issues with the BB community. But alas, it tarnished their silver coating, so very few people read them... 

At any rate, it tickled me PINK to read your post, and I think that Mr. Harris was put in his place. His reply was a pretty sad one. Someday when my hope is restored in this breed, I may just give you a call.”

But if people don’t want to be named, can you blame em ? One grumpy, and quite possible crooked, old man at the helm of the whole registry, the same man with the power to edit this forum. Or deny people paperwork.

Even if he can, or cares to, maintain some professional firewall between running a registry...... and say.... name calling. What if he keels over ? What if he drives his winnebago over a cliff ? Do you inherit the USBA ? Do I give a Bleep ? Not really, just enough to tell the world If I suddenly develop a problem with my paper work for returning the A$$whole serve. And shout from the roof tops of cyber space that USBA registration status is subject to the whim of one solitary old fart.

All that said, and I mean every word of it, there is a sadness to this episode of as The Boerboel Turns, I’m the first to admit it, it’s a shame. But you started this thread in a disrespectful manner, not me. I guess the part that bothers me most is that I once sincerely liked you, and instinctively liked John. And I once believed the hype, bought in, drank the cool-aid, even played an unwitting part myself of running non-believers off this forum myself. No more.

To whom ever else reads this, I’ve got a couple nice Boerboel pups directly from S. Africa and connections that make importing more a breeze. Time alone will tell if we can get a higher percentage of healthy dogs that way than the 75 % failure rate I’ve experienced on Kansahoma dogs. But I’m curious to find out. And if you just can’t stand to throw another dollar at the the breed, if you’ve been burned already, but you like some of what the Boerboel brings, you might due well to consider a cross. Although I’ll continue to breed pure, I’ve found that to be a much safer bet.

Feel free to get in touch.

Andrew J

www.olympicdogs.net

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