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Subject: Miss America

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Date Posted: Monday, July 04, 06:03:05am

Hasn't anyone noticed that Stephanie's career goal and the reigning Miss America are the same. Sending her to Miss America would not be smart. How would she differentiate herself from Betty? She wouldn't! They wouldn't crown another Miss America 2 years in a row that both want to sing on Broadway. Just don't see that happening. They would want someone with other career goals to make the pageant seem more diverse with girls that have all different types of aspirations in life. Stephanie would have made a great Miss MD, but we want the Miss America crown brought back to our state. Hence Hannah's win which was well deserved in her own right. Ultimately, because of Betty's win last year Stephanie couldn't be our winner this year.

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[> Subject: Oh please...I am sure that did not go through the judges minds. It was very clear they loved stephanie, but Hannah had the highest points. Im sure it was very close between the two of them. We do not need conspiracy theories.
Author: .... [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: Monday, July 04, 02:24:37pm [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: I don't believe this theory and also don't believe Hannah has more of a chance at bringing home the Miss A title.
Author: Umm...no [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: Monday, July 04, 10:21:36pm [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: Re: Miss America

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Lover of the system
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Date Posted: Tuesday, July 05, 07:39:03am

Yes I think the judges knew exactly what Stephanie's career goals where. Of course they knew! They are not new to the Miss America System. Why send a girl to Miss A that has the same exact career goal as the current Miss A.? Of coarse Hannah could give any Miss of any state a run for their money! So they gave Hannah the crown and she deserved it because she has every aspect of the competition going for her! She deserved it just as much as Stephanie however, she didn't have the same career goals as the current Miss America!

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[> [> Subject: Community college, average talent, no life outside of the pageant word, hmm...
Author: On the other hand, she is not failure-proved [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: Tuesday, July 05, 10:04:46am Her platform is impressive but it looks like everything she does is done for media attention and image building. If this is the case, judges will see through it. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: Hannah attends McDaniel which last I heard was not a community college.
Author: McDaniel [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: Saturday, July 09, 12:20:45am [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> Subject: She was attending community college prior to competing in June and I suppose was accepted at McDaniel.
Author: A step up from community college [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: Saturday, July 09, 12:31:28pm [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: Hannah worked with her platform continuiously even when she wasn't competing. I think she was the perfect choice for Miss Maryland.
Author: I think she'll be noticed at MA [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: Saturday, July 09, 12:18:46am [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: Oh please... She's not perfect. Hannah doesn't have everything going for her.
Author: Maybe you need your ears checked. [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: Tuesday, July 05, 08:20:55am [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: Re: Oh please... She's not perfect. Hannah doesn't have everything going for her.

Author:
Judges relook
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Date Posted: Wednesday, July 06, 06:06:35am

So glad somebody also noticed the past several years the State pageant has moved more towards men judges. Good or bad, this is not representative of the gender/contestants on the stage, Miss and Teen. I'm not sure that any other State level pageant has 4 of 5 men judges as we had this year, and a majority of men several of the past years. Maybe it's time to re-evaluate the way our State pageant judges coordinator selects judges, keeping in mind we have women on the stage not men.

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[> [> [> Subject: Majority of Men Judging needs to Change

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MD fan
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Date Posted: Thursday, July 07, 04:54:39pm

So glad others are also noticing that the past several years the State pageant has moved more towards men judges. Good or bad, this is not representative of the gender/contestants on the stage, Miss and Teen. I'm not sure that any other State level pageant has 4 of 5 men judges as we had this year, and a majority of men several of the past years. Maybe it's time to re-evaluate the way our State pageant judges coordinator selects judges, keeping in mind we have women on the stage not men. Maybe then we could have better chances of selecting winners that could realistically bring home the National titles.

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[> [> [> [> Subject: I see no problem what so ever with male panels, you don't run into jealous or bitter has beens that still wanna be.
Author: just sayin' [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: Friday, July 08, 02:31:30am [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: I see no problem what so ever with male panels, you don't run into jealous or bitter has beens that still wanna be.

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IMO
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Date Posted: Friday, July 08, 05:42:27am

Exactly! Besides female judges are more likely to have a preconceived notion about what is the best hair style and makeup. They would subconsciously expect their favorites to mimic their taste and style. Or they would go for a pageant - patty vs someone original. Males are more likely to look at overall presentation and beauty. They focus on impression vs picking " their own kind", like many women judges do.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: I see no problem what so ever with male panels, you don't run into jealous or bitter has beens that still wanna be.
Author: Frustrated MD Fan [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: Saturday, July 09, 04:51:49pm We need to bring back having majority of women judges that have judged or participated in the Miss America system. They would most assuredly pick very competitive standouts for Miss and Teen of MOA caliber. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: Re: Miss America
Author: Another Observer [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: Tuesday, July 05, 11:10:08am If there were more women judges, wonder if the outcome would've been different? Past several years men have been the majority on the Judging panel. Is this the norm in other states? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: Typical Maryland pageant fans. Never happy. Never satisfied. Bitch bitch, whine and complain.
Author: here we go again. [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: Wednesday, July 06, 05:59:22am [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: Re: Typical Maryland pageant fans. Never happy. Never satisfied. Bitch bitch, whine and complain.
Author: me [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: Wednesday, July 06, 05:59:52am [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: Nobody complains, Hannah is the most impressive Miss MD out of the last several winners.

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Observer
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Date Posted: Thursday, July 07, 01:58:27am

but let's be realistic - her inferior education, average talent and her young age will play against her at MA. ( I am not saying that younger girls are less impressive). Three years from now she would have made a real contender for the MA crown. Now I'd say top 10 is more likely, plus quality of life and maybe swim suit prelim. But miracles happen...

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: Typical Maryland pageant fans. Never happy. Never satisfied. Bitch bitch, whine and complain.
Author: Mad Pageant Fan [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: Friday, July 08, 12:41:40pm Don't single only Maryland fans out, look at the other States Voy Boards. Many other states complain, too. If the judging was fair, no one would would be complaining! All we want is to bring home a Miss America crown for our Miss and Teen titles. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: Re: Miss America
Author: Rek [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: Saturday, July 09, 02:55:10pm Christinia Denny should have won miss world america prettiest v one out there. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: I know right? But the prettiest girls rarely win. Did they have top ten/five?
Author: Agreed [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: Sunday, July 10, 02:13:17am [ Post a Reply to This Message ]