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Date Posted: 09:30:10 11/15/06 Wed
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's message, "ECO Freaks keep saying there are too many people..." on 04:26:19 11/15/06 Wed
I gotta say I disagree. HIV is no longer a death sentence. And by 2025 anything can happen. Although I do agree if you get to many people in one place bad things always happen, it's going to get a whole lot worse before it gets better. Our little attempts at reduction of emissions gets trumped by population and economic growth every time.
>Eco Freaks keep saying that there are too many people
>alive on the planet.
>
>NOT only is that disengenuous and but it is a
>deliberate bald faced, blantant LIE.
>
>Per the UN 80 MILLION people in Africa ALONE are going
>to die from aids--everyone who gets aids dies a very
>premature death from opportunistic infections. There
>is NO CURE for aids and probably there NEVER will be.
>
>IF 80 MILLION will estimately die of AIDS in Africa
>alone how many BILLIONS will die in Mainland China and
>the Asian Continent in general. HOW many in a global
>count will be the final GLOBAL count of the AIDS
>bodies--how many TRILLION?
>
>Bottom line LIEING Sci Guy types and two brain celled
>Bev types just wait 30 years or so and see how SMALL
>the global population is going to get. Because
>despite all the joy and sunshine MD bull sheet there
>will be NO CURE found for AIDS.
>
>One dot something TRILLION less people mean LESS
>gasoline being burnt. One dot something TRILLION
>people mean a hell of a lot less people driving
>autos--eco or not. One dot something TRILLION people
>mean LESS garbage being produced.
>
>The population growth problem is a self answering
>device. Get too many people in one place and
>something is going to creap up and wipe out a good
>chunk of them--just like the Black Death of old.
>
>PREVENTION is the only answer to the current AIDS
>epidemic.
>
>
>
>UN: Africa AIDS Toll Could Top 80M
>Could Also Create Millions Of Orphans For Rogue Armies
>to Recruit
>
>"There is no single policy prescription that will
>change the outcome of the epidemic. The death toll
>will continue to rise no matter what is done."
>UNAIDS report
>-------------------------------------------------------
>-------------------------
>
>
>(AP) More than 80 million Africans may die from AIDS
>by 2025, the United Nations said in a report released
>Friday, warning this may create millions of orphans
>who could be easy recruits for rogue armies on a
>continent torn apart by wars.
>
>HIV infections could soar to 90 million — more than 10
>percent of Africa's population — if more isn't done
>soon to fight the pandemic, the report said. UNAIDS
>estimates the number of AIDS orphans could grow from
>the current 11 million to 27 million by 2025 without
>greater action and funding.
>
>"All these kids growing up without any reference
>point, they are going to be a very easy reserve for
>any warlord that comes along," UNAIDS chief Dr. Peter
>Piot told journalists.
>
>"In today's world, AIDS threatens to destabilize
>certainly Africa and perhaps Eastern Europe in a big
>way," Piot said. "That affects the wealthy countries
>in terms of migration, decreasing markets and in terms
>of the facts that maybe troops will be sent (to
>restore peace) — all types of expensive consequences."
>
>More than 25 million African have already been
>infected with HIV, the virus that causes AIDS. UNAIDS
>estimated that nearly $200 billion is needed to save
>16 million people from death and 43 million people
>from becoming infected, but donors have pledged
>nowhere near that amount.
>
>In its report "AIDS in Africa," the U.N. agency
>examines three potential scenarios for the continent
>in the next 20 years depending on the international
>community's contribution to fighting the epidemic.
>
>Researchers determined that even with massive funding
>and better treatment, the number of Africans who will
>die from the virus is likely to top 67 million.
>
>"What we do today will change the future," concluded
>the report, drawn up by some of the worlds leading
>experts on HIV and AIDS. "These scenarios demonstrate
>that, while societies will have to deal with AIDS for
>some time to come, the extent of the epidemic's impact
>will depend on the responses and investment now."
>
>The three scenarios include a best-case situation, a
>middle-case and a doomsday scenario. They all warn
>that the worst of the epidemic's impact is still to
>come.
>
>"The scenarios are not predictions, they are plausible
>stories about the future," Piot said. "The scenarios
>highlights the various choices that are likely to
>confront African countries in the coming decades."
>
>"There is no single policy prescription that will
>change the outcome of the epidemic," the report
>stated. "The death toll will continue to rise no
>matter what is done."
>
>Under the worst-case scenario, experts have plotted
>current policies and funding over the next two
>decades.
>
>"It offers a disturbing window on the future death
>toll across the continent, with the cumulative number
>of people dying from AIDS increasing more than
>fourfold," it says. "The number of children orphaned
>by the epidemic will continue to rise beyond 2025."
>
>AIDS already has a devastating impact on the
>continent.
>
>UNAIDS has reported that life expectancy in nine
>countries has dropped to below 40 because of the
>disease. There are 11 million orphans, while 6,500
>people are dying each day. In 2004, 3.1 million people
>were newly infected, the agency said.
>
>The impact of AIDS on Africa is comparable to the
>death toll of the African the slave trade that ended
>in the 19th century, during which 20 to 30 percent of
>people were taken away or killed in the hunt for
>slaves, Piot said.
>
>"If by 2025 millions of African people are still
>becoming infected with HIV each year, these scenarios
>suggest that it will not be because there was no
>choice," the report said. "It will be because,
>collectively, there was insufficient political will to
>change behavior at all levels from the institution, to
>the community, to the individual and halt the forces
>driving the AIDS epidemic in Africa."
>
>Hundreds of experts and people living with the virus
>helped draw up the report.
>
>"Millions of new infections can be prevented if Africa
>and the rest of the world decide to tackle AIDS as an
>exceptional crisis that has the potential to devastate
>entire societies and economies," Piot said.
>
>
>By Anthony Mitchell
>©MMV The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved. This
>material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten,
>or redistributed.
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