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The Environmental Lounge
Welcome to the Lounge. Feel free to discuss any and all facets of environmentalism; energy policy, climate change or even transportation policy. If you can link it to the environment feel free to discuss it here. Share an article, an insight, or an opinion. This BBS is open, and will remain so, to all who wish to post. In the interest of free and open discussion of environmental issues, I welcome you one and all.

Subject	Author	Date
UN Expert Seeks to Halt Biofuel Output	larry	05:57:53 10/27/07 Sat
Re: UN Expert Seeks to Halt Biofuel Output -- Duncan7, 07:05:43 10/27/07 Sat First thing I've heard form the UN that makes any sense. -- Curmudgeon, 10:29:04 10/27/07 Sat Re: First thing I've heard form the UN that makes any sense. -- Duncan7, 08:47:55 10/28/07 Sun Here's some info re the susidies that go to ethanol. -- Curmudgeon, 10:45:17 10/28/07 Sun Re: Here's some info re the susidies that go to ethanol. -- Duncan7, 15:02:46 10/28/07 Sun Here's some info on what e10 is doing. -- larry, 06:07:29 11/11/07 Sun Re: Here's some info on what e10 is doing. -- Duncan7, 11:04:38 11/12/07 Mon Re: Here's some info on what e10 is doing. -- larry, 14:54:09 11/14/07 Wed Re: Here's some info on what e10 is doing. -- Duncan7, 09:11:28 11/15/07 Thu Just returned from 2000+miles, burning ethanol-laced gasoline -- Curmudgeon, 16:45:00 11/14/07 Wed Re: Just returned from 2000+miles, burning ethanol-laced gasoline -- Duncan7, 09:09:06 11/15/07 Thu Not a problem for me, because I only drive about 12,000 miles a year, doing a lot less -- Curmudgeon, 10:40:37 11/15/07 Thu
New technique creates cheap, abundant hydrogen: report	larry	15:03:40 11/14/07 Wed
"Weather Channel Founder: Global Warming �Greatest Scam in History�"	Curmudgeon	09:12:31 11/08/07 Thu
Falcons Shot in Cyprus	DE	05:00:05 10/24/07 Wed
A real scientist's views on "Global Warming Delusions"	Curmudgeon	10:29:02 10/21/07 Sun
Sun still main force in climate change	Larry	16:03:39 10/03/07 Wed
The moon as well... -- DE, 04:01:12 10/08/07 Mon Re: The moon as well... -- Duncan7, 08:45:03 10/09/07 Tue MY BAD!!!!! -- DE, 10:20:57 10/09/07 Tue more bad information from DE -- sci guy, 15:46:16 10/11/07 Thu Can you hear... -- DE, 17:37:21 10/11/07 Thu ACTUALLY..... -- sci guy, 11:16:29 10/11/07 Thu Re: ACTUALLY..... -- Duncan7, 22:52:30 10/11/07 Thu easier then i thought -- Duncan7, 23:10:40 10/11/07 Thu so what was your point with that article? -- sci guy, 14:10:10 10/14/07 Sun Re: so what was your point with that article? -- Duncan7, 14:33:44 10/14/07 Sun C'mon Queenie - post the link to the posts that -- Curmudgeon, 19:39:37 10/16/07 Tue We're still waiting for the link, or are you too cowardly to post it? -- Curmudgeon, 08:42:21 10/18/07 Thu Over a week, and still no lnk. What are you afraid of? -- Curmudgeon, 09:35:28 10/21/07 Sun
armed thugs stealing solar panles.	Larry	18:34:00 10/20/07 Sat
ADMIN to bushie...	DE	21:11:26 09/30/07 Sun
hypocrite! -- sci guy, 15:30:22 10/03/07 Wed That's a strange claim coming from you. How about linking us to -- Curmudgeon, 09:46:48 10/08/07 Mon you must be getting old, curm... -- sci guy, 13:19:08 10/11/07 Thu Soooooo what is wrong... -- DE, 17:39:43 10/11/07 Thu Post the link to the post you are deliberately -- Curmudgeon, 09:48:02 10/12/07 Fri Dont let him bait ya C.... -- DE, 13:10:18 10/12/07 Fri really? It seems Crum thinks it was HE that made the reference. -- sci guy, 14:16:25 10/14/07 Sun If anyone knows about such things -- DE, 03:57:54 10/15/07 Mon Ahh harken to the sound... -- DE, 03:59:31 10/15/07 Mon Just showing all here he is afraid to link to the post, -- Curmudgeon, 19:36:03 10/16/07 Tue Re: Post the link to the post you are deliberately -- Duncan7, 09:39:44 10/13/07 Sat As I spent over 15 years... -- DE, 14:21:19 10/16/07 Tue If my "posts were never taken down", post -- Curmudgeon, 19:38:11 10/16/07 Tue
biofuel produces more greenhouse gas than oil	larry	23:38:58 09/21/07 Fri
Re: biofuel produces more greenhouse gas than oil -- Duncan7, 08:34:38 09/26/07 Wed Ethanol producers killing workers -- Larry, 10:26:03 09/29/07 Sat Re: Ethanol producers killing workers -- Duncan7, 16:06:53 09/29/07 Sat Ever heard of coal miners' black lung? -- Ex-bushy, 14:21:06 09/30/07 Sun People die of many things... -- DE, 14:24:29 09/30/07 Sun The value of all human life is ... -- DE, 14:25:46 09/30/07 Sun Re: Ever heard of coal miners' black lung? -- Duncan7, 15:05:35 09/30/07 Sun Well I dont know about the chicks part... -- DE, 21:21:05 09/30/07 Sun Ever hear of strip mines? Here in Montana, we don't get coal -- Curmudgeon, 08:40:09 10/09/07 Tue
Example of Global Eco Freak idiot...	DE	04:41:20 09/24/07 Mon
The permanent solution to the energy problem...	DE	08:38:06 09/22/07 Sat
Mounting evidence suggests child allergies linked to sterile environments	larry	10:52:40 09/14/07 Fri
Ditto re the schoolyard squabbles we had to learn to handle -- Curmudgeon, 10:47:52 09/17/07 Mon These are inevitable outcomes when a society graduates more lawyers and social workers than engineers and mba's...nt -- carbonicus, 10:41:51 09/18/07 Tue
GM will happen...	DE	05:23:12 09/17/07 Mon
The "frankenfood" scare has always been a fund-raising tool and nothing else... -- carbonicus, 10:38:21 09/18/07 Tue
Suit Blaming Automakers Over Gases Is Dismissed	carbonicus	10:16:45 09/18/07 Tue
�Feel Good� vs. �Do Good� on Climate	carbonicus	13:21:22 09/11/07 Tue
"Trickle-Down Ecology ... What might once have been referred to as 'back-breaking labour'	Curmudgeon	12:22:16 09/06/07 Thu
Re: "Trickle-Down Ecology ... What might once have been referred to as 'back-breaking labour' -- Duncan7, 22:17:34 09/06/07 Thu Un-f'ing believable!!! -- carbonicus, 11:56:35 09/07/07 Fri
Saving the environment one private Gulfstream at a time.	Carbonicus	11:49:16 09/07/07 Fri
Public 'wary of green tax motives'	Larry	03:14:29 09/04/07 Tue
Sounds like a well-informed electorate to me. n/t -- carbonicus, 14:13:01 09/05/07 Wed
Ice blocks British solo sailor	Carbonicus	13:46:37 09/05/07 Wed
AHHHHHH Victory!!!!!	DE	04:49:48 09/05/07 Wed
Judge denies Cal Berkeley tree-sitters' request to remove fence	larry	06:30:12 09/01/07 Sat
10 years from now -- Ex-bushy, 18:58:27 09/01/07 Sat 10 years???? -- DE, 09:09:12 09/02/07 Sun It is the sole purpose and job... -- DE, 13:15:15 09/02/07 Sun Re: 10 years from now -- Duncan7, 08:48:32 09/03/07 Mon sabot -- Larry, 03:09:29 09/04/07 Tue Shoes? -- Ex-bushy, 15:06:47 09/04/07 Tue YOU have been warned.... -- Administration, 20:27:30 09/04/07 Tue 10 years from now the Cal football fans who " traded epithets" with the protesters will be contributing to society. -- carbonicus, 04:39:08 09/05/07 Wed Oh, and Cal beat Tenn by 2 touchdowns in the football game on Saturday -- Ex-bushy, 16:56:37 09/02/07 Sun Take the sports to the sports pages... -- Admin...., 20:44:12 09/02/07 Sun
I love the feel of high frequency in the water...	DE	14:38:00 08/31/07 Fri
Polluted China Rivers Threaten "Sixth" of Population	DE	03:38:58 08/29/07 Wed
As China roars, pollution reaches deadly extremes	DE	04:13:48 08/27/07 Mon
"NYC Sets Record For Coldest Day" while "Hotlanta Breaks Record For 100-Degree Days"	Curmudgeon	09:49:07 08/22/07 Wed
So how would you explain it? -- Cloudy, 09:06:44 08/23/07 Thu Perhaps this image will explain it better that words can.... -- Carbonicus, 09:33:41 08/23/07 Thu Re: So all the records this year, heat, cold, floods and drought are just the norm... -- Cloudy, 09:40:35 08/23/07 Thu There are always record extremes on any given day someplace. -- Carbonicus, 15:42:43 08/23/07 Thu It hasn't even been an exceptionally warm year, given the brief duration of reliable records. -- Carbonicus, 15:52:06 08/23/07 Thu Re: NOAA says it is the fifth warmest spring on record and the driest ever in the Southeast? -- Cloudy, 10:50:40 08/24/07 Fri Like SOOOOOOO WHAT... -- DE, 11:10:35 08/24/07 Fri Re: The "Dust Bowl" is Oklahoma, last map I checked would place it in the Mid-West? -- Cloudy, 11:36:13 08/24/07 Fri How stupid of you... -- DE, 14:33:03 08/24/07 Fri Yes, and June, '07 was the 23rd warmest in the 113 year record: -- Carbonicus, 10:02:02 08/25/07 Sat I'd call it normal variations for different parts -- Curmudgeon, 15:22:58 08/25/07 Sat
Greenpeace, yes Greenpeace!, targets Carbon-crat hypocrites!	Carbonicus	09:04:22 08/23/07 Thu
Once again ZPG people give praise...	DE	04:28:42 08/22/07 Wed
The icon of the rich and elite...	DE	04:24:55 08/22/07 Wed
BODIES, show me the massive pile of bodies...	DE	04:21:38 08/22/07 Wed
ZPG people should be jumping with joy...	DE	04:16:56 08/22/07 Wed
Forget biofuels - burn oil and plant forests instead	larry	05:55:47 08/17/07 Fri
So you're in favor of Carbon Offsets used by Al Gore and the Hollywood glitteriara -- Ex-bushy, 09:35:29 08/17/07 Fri we will never run out of oil. -- larry, 13:04:56 08/17/07 Fri So yuo sueport bio-feuls to?? -- Ex-bushy, 09:09:55 08/18/07 Sat It would seem that "Ex-bushy" can't walk, chew gum and spell at the same time. -- Carbonicus, 15:18:53 08/17/07 Fri I do not want your children to have oil.... -- DE, 10:06:52 08/19/07 Sun Re: I do not want you to have children.... -- Ex-bushy, 12:37:25 08/21/07 Tue I never wanted children... -- DE, 16:46:00 08/21/07 Tue And I never ever wanted a wife either... -- DE, 04:09:37 08/22/07 Wed
MOVE baby move...	DE	05:30:40 08/20/07 Mon
A Report from the Global Warming Battlefield	Carbonicus	06:47:11 08/15/07 Wed
Re: A Report from the Global Warming Battlefield -- Duncan7, 09:05:00 08/16/07 Thu Pollution abatement, energy efficiency and mitigating manmade CO2's... -- Carbonicus, 15:11:09 08/17/07 Fri Re: Pollution abatement, energy efficiency and mitigating manmade CO2's... -- Duncan7, 22:25:15 08/17/07 Fri
Reward Offered for China Cities Curbing Pollution	DE	05:09:55 08/14/07 Tue
As long as they are aren't asking the World Bank or the IMF to fund this... -- Carbonicus, 07:11:41 08/15/07 Wed
Bogus NASA U.S. Annual Temperature records exposed!!!	Carbonicus	15:27:33 08/10/07 Fri
"Sources" report AlGore was last seen sobbing uncontrollably. -- Curmudgeon, 08:34:52 08/13/07 Mon Sobbing? Nah, fatcat Daddy Airbucks is too busy counting his profits from carbon emissions credits to cry. -- carbonicus, 11:20:33 08/13/07 Mon You're probably right. What a scam!!! -- Curmudgeon, 07:38:03 08/14/07 Tue
The missing ingrediant....	DE	04:17:52 08/14/07 Tue
Cars you can�t buy in the U.S.	larry	20:17:13 08/03/07 Fri
Re: Cars you can�t buy in the U.S. -- Duncan7, 08:00:14 08/06/07 Mon Re: Cars you can�t buy in the U.S. -- Larry, 13:18:15 08/06/07 Mon
Of Cosmic Rays and Dangerous Days	larry	16:06:45 08/02/07 Thu
Russia plants flag on Arctic Ocean floor...	DE	14:46:20 08/02/07 Thu
Global eco FREAKS are going to S when ...	DE	07:15:28 08/02/07 Thu
Asia's brown clouds 'warm planet'	larry	03:38:16 08/02/07 Thu
Saudi Aramco to Invite Bids for $10 Billion Manifa Oil Field	DE	03:50:31 08/01/07 Wed
China Seeks Profit from Panda Poo	DE	03:46:12 08/01/07 Wed
Nevada has big temperature gains.	DE	05:38:19 07/26/07 Thu
Hint: It's summer. -- Curmudgeon, 09:26:26 07/26/07 Thu most dramatic increase in average temperatures the last 30 years -- sci guy, 16:25:38 07/26/07 Thu Like I give a flying Frog... -- DE, 02:53:11 07/27/07 Fri It is called MY SIDE is WINNING ... -- DE, 02:56:06 07/27/07 Fri Temperatures rise. Temperatures fall. Yet the Environmental -- Curmudgeon, 17:05:16 07/31/07 Tue
Ya got to love those Native Americans...	DE	14:56:23 07/27/07 Fri
Explosions raise questions	DE	03:58:44 07/27/07 Fri
Another example of bureaucratic stupidity...	DE	05:06:48 07/02/07 Mon
I like paper. not only can it be made from trees but recycled (NT) -- larry, 17:00:35 07/03/07 Tue Re: I like paper. not only can it be made from trees but recycled -- DE, 14:17:41 07/04/07 Wed nobody recycles that. -- larry, 21:41:20 07/04/07 Wed Woooo I hope not... -- DE, 05:57:41 07/05/07 Thu if your in china, thay make lard out of tp (NT) -- Larry, 21:13:53 07/06/07 Fri Well its not my China but think FIBER.... -- DE, 14:15:10 07/26/07 Thu
Pollution-cholesterol link	DE agrees...	05:30:27 07/26/07 Thu
Railroads put money on coal	DE	08:48:25 07/22/07 Sun
A box to make biofuel from car fumes	larry	21:26:04 07/19/07 Thu
1.7 million more and its still not done.	larry	09:05:57 07/19/07 Thu
popular science going green	larry	08:21:43 07/19/07 Thu
Fish heads bound for Africa	larry	08:15:38 07/19/07 Thu
Food Fetish Freaks Freak Out...	DE	03:29:36 07/19/07 Thu
China Says World Bank's Death-By-Pollution Figures Are Baseless	DE	05:36:46 07/18/07 Wed
Suit seeks belated cleanup of a 57-year-old oil spill.	DE	05:30:33 07/18/07 Wed
Brazil To Build Dams Despite Bolivian Concerns	DE	05:20:24 07/18/07 Wed
Challenge to Farm Emissions Rejected	DE	05:14:37 07/18/07 Wed
Everybody should be like this guy	Duncan7	07:36:42 07/13/07 Fri
I agree -- sci guy, 00:37:15 07/16/07 Mon Actually he is a complete moronic idiot... -- DE, 05:09:35 07/16/07 Mon Re: I agree -- Duncan7, 08:46:31 07/16/07 Mon
"LAST month Australians endured our coldest June since 1950." -- AlGore last seen sobbing in the corner.	Curmudgeon	12:07:31 07/14/07 Sat
The reason why global eco freaks will fail...	DE	08:36:15 07/14/07 Sat
Another stupid governor...	DE	04:49:35 07/11/07 Wed
"Buenos Aires sees rare snowfall" Oops!	Curmudgeon	09:45:09 07/10/07 Tue
rare snowfall lol like some of the dry glaciers -- Larry, 18:36:18 07/10/07 Tue
African Farmers Urged To Change Ways Because Weather Is Changing	DE	05:36:25 07/09/07 Mon
"What the ice tells us, 'experts' don't care to hear"	Curmudgeon	21:03:32 07/07/07 Sat
"Live Earth concerts in eight countries hope to inspire action. Will it work? "	DE	06:02:30 07/05/07 Thu
The 'Green' of Mainland China...	DE	14:06:46 07/04/07 Wed
Politicians can be very very stupid...	DE	04:58:59 07/02/07 Mon
Re: Politicians can be very very stupid... -- Larry, 17:04:48 07/03/07 Tue
Eco Freaks seek credibility...	DE	05:45:43 07/03/07 Tue
next thing you know Gore will be quoting them as experts. (NT) -- larry, 17:02:22 07/03/07 Tue
Global Eco Freaks, greedy money grubbin wastards????	DE	05:27:47 07/03/07 Tue
K Treaty has been declared a FAILURE>>>>>I told ya it would be..	DE	05:35:06 07/02/07 Mon
China faces a new worry: Heavy metals in the food	DE	04:43:02 07/02/07 Mon
Still winning...	DE	10:46:55 07/01/07 Sun
Global eco freaks may face the death penalty...	DE	10:42:42 07/01/07 Sun
"Lynx, wolves and grizzly bears are further at risk from the sheep grazing :" ?????	DE	10:35:54 07/01/07 Sun
THIS IS WHY they sell Fire Insurance...	DE	10:30:57 07/01/07 Sun
Money talks and BS walks, once agian...	DE	10:27:30 07/01/07 Sun
hey! No passwords!	sci guy	04:37:43 06/26/07 Tue
If you opened your board to all views, maybe it wouldn't be -- c, 09:52:23 06/26/07 Tue Re: hey! No passwords! -- Duncan7, 22:06:40 06/27/07 Wed
Read the sunspots	larry	08:38:23 06/24/07 Sun
you have a point? -- sci guy, 04:36:34 06/26/07 Tue Does not bother me at all... -- DE, 05:26:46 06/26/07 Tue Why don't yiou read the article before replying? Makes you look the fool when (again) you -- Curmudgeon, 09:57:07 06/26/07 Tue
Ethanol push may keep pump prices up	larry	08:45:49 06/24/07 Sun
'Saudi Arabia of renewable energy' off Scotland's coast	larry	08:33:05 06/24/07 Sun
WINNING....	DE	05:16:16 06/16/07 Sat
Companies may sue the government for reimbursement...	DE	04:37:59 06/13/07 Wed
Attention Board Members....Due To AZZ pen I initiated the code word	DE	02:48:56 06/12/07 Tue
OHHH PS... -- DE, 04:48:21 06/12/07 Tue
Like I care...	DE	02:40:00 06/12/07 Tue

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