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Subject: Big News Author: Grin and Bear it [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 11:35:52 10/06/24 Sun No, the news wasn't that Brown lost to Bryant. In this day of the open portal, this will be the norm. Bryant had 60 new players on their team from the portal. Let me repeat, 60. There certainly was plenty of talent for the picking. At any rate, Brown's defense was bad. The corner covering the star Bryant receiver was as good as useless. And Bryant continually took advantage of the mismatch. But that would not have been possible if Brown had mounted a serious rush. They didn't, and the Bryant QB had plenty of time to find open receivers. Hopefully, Isaiah Read gets back on the field soon. As for the open portal, it has taken the "college" out of college sports. Sad, real sad. But the Really Big News was that the Brown women's soccer team got trounced by Princeton 8-0. This was hard to believe because Brown had not lost a league game in over four years. But those teams had Brittany Raphino, and you just knew that life was not going to be the same without her. But what was really sad was that Brown gave up once they got behind 2-0. Losing is no fun, but quitting is unforgiveable. One final note, Matt Childs, Brown's freshman back, is going to be a big star in the league. He plays like a senior, is fast and shifty. If he doesn't get hurt, the sky is the limit. Remember, you heard it here first. [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> Subject: Re: Big News Author: An Observer [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 13:29:26 10/06/24 Sun Princeton could have used the extra touchdown at Baker Field yesterday. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: Re: Big News Author: Ivy Patriot [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 08:50:52 10/07/24 Mon I just went over the Bryant roster and counted 27 transfers including junior college products who would not be considered portal entries if they earned their degrees. It may not be 60 but it's a lot. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: Re: Big News Author: Grin and Bear it [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 12:00:08 10/07/24 Mon The announcers said 60 new players. This may have included freshman recruits who did not come through the portal. I am not sure. I thought they said that came through the portal. But I could be wrong. But as you say, 27 is still a lot. From an old timer's perspective, the portal is the worst thing that ever happened to college sports! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: Re: Big News Author: An Observer [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 13:05:38 10/07/24 Mon I'd say NIL is the worst thing that ever happened to college sports but, regardless of how they should be ranked, the fact that the portal and NIL are essentially simultaneous events in the grand scheme of things means that, in one fell swoop, college sports will take a giant leap where there was at least a veneer of "college," education and "student"-athlete covering the seedy underbelly of big time sports to the new stark reality which always existed: College sports are nothing more than a for-profit marketing business, a completely dollar-driven subsidiary of ostensibly not-for-profit organizations that have almost zero connection to the larger, umbrella organization. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Big News Author: sparman [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 11:22:45 10/08/24 Tue College sports betting says hello: https://www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/41665899/study-angry-bettors-growing-abuse-ncaa-athletes [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Big News Author: observer [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 11:34:02 10/08/24 Tue C'mon. It has always been thus. Does anyone remember Jack Molinas? The BC Eagles? Mitch Marrow? The Kentucky FedEx envelope? The SMU Pony Express? This: https://paw.princeton.edu/article/princeton-censured-major-ncaa-violation-womens-tennis-0 ? The early 20th century Ivy teams were all ringers. Just because the Ivies pretended to get out of the game doesn't mean that college sports have ever been pure as the driven snow. There are plenty of Ivy athletes over the years who would never have been admitted but for their jump shot accuracy or 40m times. The facade is only that. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Big News Author: An Observer [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 12:02:25 10/08/24 Tue I'm not saying that, because the new reality of college sports is "black," that what preceded it was "white." Of course not. It was definitely "grey" before, starting in the 1870's when Princeton and Yale pioneered the practice of recruiting football ringers using alumni influence and funding. I have no delusions that college sports have been snow white ever since the first Tiger or Bulldog alum muttered to his classmate, "I'm sick of losing to those sons of bitches. Get out your wallet." SMU and Baylor boosters have nothing on their predecessors in orange or blue. And there are not "plenty" of Ivy athletes who would not have been admitted but for their jump shots or 40 times. Virtually *all* Ivy recruited varsity athletes would not have been admitted on their academics alone in the current era of 4-9% admission rates. I'm guessing 85-90% would not have been admitted if you erased their contribution to our varsity teams. And the 10-15% who could make it in on their own would be concentrated in the so-called Olympic sports. But surely you can see the difference in degree between pre-NIL, pre-portal college sports and what will exist going forward. It was definitely grey before, but we have passed the inflection point. We are headed for black, pitch black. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Hyperbole Author: sparman [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 15:04:23 10/08/24 Tue Yes, there has always been some betting (and as a Columbia fan, no doubt you are attuned to the issue). But it has not always as it is now. And the point is about betting, not admissions. You probably knew that too. I'm wondering what life experience caused you to become so jaded. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: Re: Big News Author: Bob S [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 15:13:11 10/08/24 Tue I have to say I got a bit discouraged when I saw betting lines for College Lacrosse. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: Re: Big News Author: IvySportsJunkie [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 17:39:58 10/09/24 Wed Bryant now plays in the Colonial Athletic Association (CAA), which schedules a ton of non-conference games against the Ivy League teams. The CAA is one of the conferences that has been taking full advantage of the transfer portal combined with NIL. Since the Ivy League does not allow graduate transfers and severely limits the number of undergraduate transfers, our Ivy teams will be at a disadvantage to conferences like the CAA. During this fall, there are 33 former Ivy football players on FBS team rosters and 26 former Ivy football players on FCS team rosters. Of the 26 FCS players, 10 are competing in the CAA. Since Ivy athletes in their senior year can commence putting their names in transfer portal in October, we should soon know some of the key senior Ivy players who are entering the transfer portal this season. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]