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Subject: Re: Malachi Hosely Author: IvySportsJunkie [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 08:13:08 12/05/24 Thu In reply to: Know-it-all 's message, "Malachi Hosely" on 20:06:26 11/23/24 Sat I have been actively involved in Ivy admissions interviews for decades. I have noticed a dramatic improvement in the academic qualifications of the recruited athletes, especially in football, basketball, baseball, etc. I agree that most of the athletes are indistinguishable from the average students and virtually all the athletes are very strong students. Keep in mind that the quality of the average Ivy admitted student in terms of number of AP tests, GPA and SAT scores has significantly improved over the past 20 years and it is so much harder to get into our schools. Thus, the 1 standard deviation away from the average is significantly higher than before. [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> [> Subject: Re: Malachi Hosely Author: John Harvard (Harvard Recruit SAT's) [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 09:18:38 12/05/24 Thu Today's Harvard Crimson reports that SAT scores of recruited athletes increased by more than 100 points from the previous year. "Recruited athletes in the Class of 2028 scored an average of 1479, while athletes in the Class of 2027 had an average score of 1368." "Non-recruited students reported an average of 1525, compared with the average of recruited athletes sitting at 1479." Because Harvard elimated its standard testing requirment starting with the Class of 2024, that was consistent between these years. Harvard has reinstated the standardized test requirment for the Class of 2029. The closing gap between recruited athletes and other students might have been impacted if more athletes chose not to take the tests. Presumably, the typical non-recruited athlete relies on his/her stellar scores to get accepted. For those of us looking at these scores and wondering how we'd be competitive today, note that the numerical test results were adjusted upwards decades ago. Reportedly, this was so that strong test scores could achieve 800's or close thereto, clustering/adding more students at the top numerically, not just percentile wise. About 10 years ago, my son and I did some research and calculations and concluded that his scores in the 1500's was comparable to mine in the 1400's. There are more perjorative hypotheses of why this skewing upwards was done, but I'll leave that for the cesspools of social media to discuss, not here in our escapist haven. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: Re: Malachi Hosely Author: Lurker [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 11:33:02 12/05/24 Thu Not to put too fine a point on it but would emphasize that “statistically indistinguishable” would be within one std deviation, not necessarily equivalent to [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: Re: Malachi Hosely Author: Drew2411 [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 14:28:00 12/08/24 Sun I have talked to numerous high school coaches who have sent athletes to Ivy schools over last 3 decades. To a person, they have said much easier to get in now as a recruited athlete than 15-20 years ago. As pointed out, SAT scores have been curved higher and grade inflation is rampant. Hardest part is being good enough to get recruited. Talent level much higher now in Ivies [ Post a Reply to This Message ]