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Subject: Re: The Ivy League will participate to FCS Playoffs from now on!


Author:
RedWin
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Date Posted: 14:47:05 12/18/24 Wed
In reply to: LeCowboySolitaire 's message, "The Ivy League will participate to FCS Playoffs from now on!" on 10:03:28 12/18/24 Wed

Leave it to a woman president to bring change, when the old guard of the Ivy League couldn't see beyond their shoes. Thank you president Sian Beilock for your vision and leadership. Go Ivy League!

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[> Subject: Obvious which team should have gone this year!!!


Author:
Lurker
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Date Posted: 14:56:51 12/18/24 Wed

The Columbia Lions with the #2 defense in FCS of course! No disrespect to the other 2 but the league must be sure to send their best!!

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[> [> Subject: Re: Obvious which team should have gone this year!!!


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bulldog10jw
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Date Posted: 16:29:50 12/18/24 Wed

But Harvard would have gone since they beat both Dartmouth and Columbia.

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[> [> [> Subject: Yep


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Go Green
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Date Posted: 16:59:49 12/18/24 Wed


Most tie-breaker rules have head-to-head records as the first determination.

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[> [> [> [> Subject: Another scenario re: three way tie


Author:
bulldog10jw
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Date Posted: 17:27:34 12/18/24 Wed

The problem will be how to break a three way tie if each of the three teams had a win and a loss against the other two. It may have happened since, but I only remember 1969 when Yale, Dartmouth, and Princeton were all 6-1 in the league.

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[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Another scenario re: three way tie


Author:
Son of Eli
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Date Posted: 17:39:54 12/18/24 Wed

My guess is the best scoring differential in league play

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[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: I hate point differentials


Author:
Go Green
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Date Posted: 18:47:25 12/18/24 Wed


They create bad incentives to run up scores.

I'd much prefer the league look to which of the tri-champs beat the fourth place team. And if two of the tri-champions have beaten the fourth place team, then the winner of the head-to-head game between them should get the bid.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: I hate point differentials


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Son of Eli
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Date Posted: 09:54:56 12/19/24 Thu

I wish Yale had run up the score more on Dartmouth this year when they had the chance. ;)

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: Obvious which team should have gone this year!!!


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Lurker
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Date Posted: 18:38:29 12/18/24 Wed

Nope - best defense goes. Defense wins championships. Also League will use the NBC Olympic coverage rule: best story wins. RLR!!

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[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Obvious which team should have gone this year!!!


Author:
L et V
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Date Posted: 19:50:43 12/18/24 Wed

Stick to tradition. Break ties by jousting.

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[> [> [> [> Subject: 'Best' defense is determined by what set of objective standards?


Author:
Valmas (Stoic)
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Date Posted: 23:32:14 12/18/24 Wed

You're just not serious.

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[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: 'Best' defense is determined by what set of objective standards?


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Lurker
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Date Posted: 00:30:38 12/19/24 Thu

My dude - objectively the purpose of a defense is to limit points scored by opposing offenses. Not yards gained, not first downs but points.

Our Lions were head and shoulders better than anyone else in IL. By definition, objectively the best defense. See that wasnt hard and clearly serious

Please be nice, it is the holiday season.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: 'Best' defense is determined by what set of objective standards?


Author:
Lurker
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Date Posted: 09:46:20 12/19/24 Thu

Taking my cues from you GG. Happy you’ve noticed

Now I have to start coming up with reasons why my Big Red are truly #1 as well. Probably something to do with thrashing Dart - no disrespect intended

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[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Points allowed is but one data point.


Author:
Valmas (Stoic)
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Date Posted: 11:19:59 12/20/24 Fri

But in successive posts - snd news to me - you've referenced 'our Lions' and 'your Big Red'; so perhaps you've taken ownership of the IL and are thus entitled to calling the shots as you see them on postseason participation. Mazel tov!

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Points allowed is but one data point.


Author:
Lurker
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Date Posted: 12:14:37 12/20/24 Fri

Or is there a simpler explanation? …

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[> [> [> [> [> Subject: I'm sure that...


Author:
Go Green
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Date Posted: 07:04:04 12/19/24 Thu


... if Columbia led the league in third-down conversions, our Lurker friend would find a way to insist that should be the standard to determine the champion.

:)

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