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Subject: The future of Welsh Rugby Author: Julian Powell [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 14:48:10 05/28/02 Tue Author Host/IP: spider-loh-tf014.proxy.aol.com/195.93.50.154 This is my idea for the future of Welsh Rugby. 1) A 12 team Welsh premier division with no promotion or relegation ( to include the current nine in the premiership, plus Pontypool, Aberavon, and Newbridge). 2) None of the teams in the premiership would receive money from the WRU. 3) Top 200 players in Wales (if we can find that many) contracted to the WRU, which also mean being paid by the WRU aswell and not by their clubs. 4) Those top 200 players will be spread out by the WRU evenly between the 12 clubs, thus like the old days helping to raise the general standard of the game in wales 5) Only two foreign players per team, thus preventing talented welsh youngsters from staying on the bench. 6) Four welsh provinical teams to compete in europe, 3 in the the cup, and one in the shield, again with only two foreign players in each province. 7) Thus welsh players would only get paid for provincial appearences and international appearences. The result of these dramatic changes would still keep the idea of club rugby in wales: which would be vital, it would also allow our best players to playing together on a regular basis, thus aiding our national side, and finally, and most important of all, it would get rid of the idea of having big financial backers in the welsh club game, as the clubs wouldn't need them, as the players wages would be paid by the WRU and not by them. The rest of the players in the premiership could be paid by their clubs, but to earn the realy big money players would have to gain a WRU contract - thus their is an incentive to play better. The super six would argue against this, but their way leads to disaster. They only have narrow self interst at heart. nice at it would have been for llanelli to win the cup, but in the grand scheme of things it would not have helped welsh rugby. These super six are between 15 million in debt, and these are the people sir tasker wanted to help run the WRU. The super six are saying that welsh club rugby can only sustain 6 professional club. They are only saying that to earn more money, due to then waisting so much of it already. [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> Subject: ERC will not allow provincial teams to play in europe - sorry Author: Oh bugger that's blown that one then. [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 15:58:07 05/28/02 Tue Author Host/IP: inktomi2-bir.server.ntl.com/62.255.32.5 >This is my idea for the future of Welsh Rugby. > >1) A 12 team Welsh premier division with no promotion >or relegation ( to include the current nine in the >premiership, plus Pontypool, Aberavon, and Newbridge). >2) None of the teams in the premiership would receive >money from the WRU. >3) Top 200 players in Wales (if we can find that many) >contracted to the WRU, which also mean being paid by >the WRU aswell and not by their clubs. >4) Those top 200 players will be spread out by the WRU >evenly between the 12 clubs, thus like the old days >helping to raise the general standard of the game in >wales >5) Only two foreign players per team, thus preventing >talented welsh youngsters from staying on the bench. >6) Four welsh provinical teams to compete in europe, 3 >in the the cup, and one in the shield, again with only >two foreign players in each province. >7) Thus welsh players would only get paid for >provincial appearences and international appearences. > >The result of these dramatic changes would still keep >the idea of club rugby in wales: which would be vital, >it would also allow our best players to playing >together on a regular basis, thus aiding our national >side, and finally, and most important of all, it would >get rid of the idea of having big financial backers in >the welsh club game, as the clubs wouldn't need them, >as the players wages would be paid by the WRU and not >by them. The rest of the players in the premiership >could be paid by their clubs, but to earn the realy >big money players would have to gain a WRU contract - >thus their is an incentive to play better. > >The super six would argue against this, but their way >leads to disaster. They only have narrow self interst >at heart. nice at it would have been for llanelli to >win the cup, but in the grand scheme of things it >would not have helped welsh rugby. These super six >are between 15 million in debt, and these are the >people sir tasker wanted to help run the WRU. The >super six are saying that welsh club rugby can only >sustain 6 professional club. They are only saying >that to earn more money, due to then waisting so much >of it already.

[> [> Subject: Errrmmm...correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't Munster and the other Irish Provinces in the European Cup? Author: Glyn [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 01:36:11 06/01/02 Sat Author Host/IP: cache-loh-aa07.proxy.aol.com/195.93.32.13

[> Subject: Says who? I thought that was a load of crap started by the go6 to put people off the idea. Author: Dai.H [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 16:10:21 05/28/02 Tue Author Host/IP: webcacheB04a.cache.pol.co.uk/195.92.168.166 >This is my idea for the future of Welsh Rugby. > >1) A 12 team Welsh premier division with no promotion >or relegation ( to include the current nine in the >premiership, plus Pontypool, Aberavon, and Newbridge). >2) None of the teams in the premiership would receive >money from the WRU. >3) Top 200 players in Wales (if we can find that many) >contracted to the WRU, which also mean being paid by >the WRU aswell and not by their clubs. >4) Those top 200 players will be spread out by the WRU >evenly between the 12 clubs, thus like the old days >helping to raise the general standard of the game in >wales >5) Only two foreign players per team, thus preventing >talented welsh youngsters from staying on the bench. >6) Four welsh provinical teams to compete in europe, 3 >in the the cup, and one in the shield, again with only >two foreign players in each province. >7) Thus welsh players would only get paid for >provincial appearences and international appearences. > >The result of these dramatic changes would still keep >the idea of club rugby in wales: which would be vital, >it would also allow our best players to playing >together on a regular basis, thus aiding our national >side, and finally, and most important of all, it would >get rid of the idea of having big financial backers in >the welsh club game, as the clubs wouldn't need them, >as the players wages would be paid by the WRU and not >by them. The rest of the players in the premiership >could be paid by their clubs, but to earn the realy >big money players would have to gain a WRU contract - >thus their is an incentive to play better. > >The super six would argue against this, but their way >leads to disaster. They only have narrow self interst >at heart. nice at it would have been for llanelli to >win the cup, but in the grand scheme of things it >would not have helped welsh rugby. These super six >are between 15 million in debt, and these are the >people sir tasker wanted to help run the WRU. The >super six are saying that welsh club rugby can only >sustain 6 professional club. They are only saying >that to earn more money, due to then waisting so much >of it already.

[> Subject: Re: The future of Welsh Rugby Author: Neil Evans [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 03:17:13 05/29/02 Wed Author Host/IP: NoHost/194.81.116.254 >This is my idea for the future of Welsh Rugby. > >1) A 12 team Welsh premier division with no promotion >or relegation ( to include the current nine in the >premiership, plus Pontypool, Aberavon, and Newbridge). >2) None of the teams in the premiership would receive >money from the WRU. >3) Top 200 players in Wales (if we can find that many) >contracted to the WRU, which also mean being paid by >the WRU aswell and not by their clubs. >4) Those top 200 players will be spread out by the WRU >evenly between the 12 clubs, thus like the old days >helping to raise the general standard of the game in >wales >5) Only two foreign players per team, thus preventing >talented welsh youngsters from staying on the bench. >6) Four welsh provinical teams to compete in europe, 3 >in the the cup, and one in the shield, again with only >two foreign players in each province. >7) Thus welsh players would only get paid for >provincial appearences and international appearences. > >The result of these dramatic changes would still keep >the idea of club rugby in wales: which would be vital, >it would also allow our best players to playing >together on a regular basis, thus aiding our national >side, and finally, and most important of all, it would >get rid of the idea of having big financial backers in >the welsh club game, as the clubs wouldn't need them, >as the players wages would be paid by the WRU and not >by them. The rest of the players in the premiership >could be paid by their clubs, but to earn the realy >big money players would have to gain a WRU contract - >thus their is an incentive to play better. > >The super six would argue against this, but their way >leads to disaster. They only have narrow self interst >at heart. nice at it would have been for llanelli to >win the cup, but in the grand scheme of things it >would not have helped welsh rugby. These super six >are between 15 million in debt, and these are the >people sir tasker wanted to help run the WRU. The >super six are saying that welsh club rugby can only >sustain 6 professional club. They are only saying >that to earn more money, due to then waisting so much >of it already. Dont agree with Newbridge being included why should they be when they finished fourth this year. If you want a 12 team premiership then surely the team that finished third in the league beihnd Pontypool and Aberavon be included? Carmarthen Quins

[> Subject: Says ERC - No worries though, with your attitude they'll change their minds 'cos you scared them. Author: Oh bugger,it's not a rumour then? [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 16:30:59 05/30/02 Thu Author Host/IP: inktomi2-bir.server.ntl.com/62.255.32.5 >This is my idea for the future of Welsh Rugby. > >1) A 12 team Welsh premier division with no promotion >or relegation ( to include the current nine in the >premiership, plus Pontypool, Aberavon, and Newbridge). >2) None of the teams in the premiership would receive >money from the WRU. >3) Top 200 players in Wales (if we can find that many) >contracted to the WRU, which also mean being paid by >the WRU aswell and not by their clubs. >4) Those top 200 players will be spread out by the WRU >evenly between the 12 clubs, thus like the old days >helping to raise the general standard of the game in >wales >5) Only two foreign players per team, thus preventing >talented welsh youngsters from staying on the bench. >6) Four welsh provinical teams to compete in europe, 3 >in the the cup, and one in the shield, again with only >two foreign players in each province. >7) Thus welsh players would only get paid for >provincial appearences and international appearences. > >The result of these dramatic changes would still keep >the idea of club rugby in wales: which would be vital, >it would also allow our best players to playing >together on a regular basis, thus aiding our national >side, and finally, and most important of all, it would >get rid of the idea of having big financial backers in >the welsh club game, as the clubs wouldn't need them, >as the players wages would be paid by the WRU and not >by them. The rest of the players in the premiership >could be paid by their clubs, but to earn the realy >big money players would have to gain a WRU contract - >thus their is an incentive to play better. > >The super six would argue against this, but their way >leads to disaster. They only have narrow self interst >at heart. nice at it would have been for llanelli to >win the cup, but in the grand scheme of things it >would not have helped welsh rugby. These super six >are between 15 million in debt, and these are the >people sir tasker wanted to help run the WRU. The >super six are saying that welsh club rugby can only >sustain 6 professional club. They are only saying >that to earn more money, due to then waisting so much >of it already.