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I think in terms of the press, then yeah, a shit storm would be appropriate... -- anyasbuttmonkey, 01:22:16 05/31/08 Sat [1]
But I still say that Caprica isn't a PoW, she's a defected agent, and as such the rules of conduct change. Here's the definition of a PoW from the Geneva Convention:
Article 4 defines prisoners of war to include:
* 4.1.1 Members of the armed forces of a Party to the conflict and members of militias of such armed forces
* 4.1.2 Members of other militias and members of other volunteer corps, including those of organized resistance movements, provided that they fulfill all of the following conditions:
o that of being commanded by a person responsible for his subordinates;
o that of having a fixed distinctive sign recognizable at a distance (there are limited exceptions to this among countries who observe the 1977 Protocol I);
o that of carrying arms openly;
o that of conducting their operations in accordance with the laws and customs of war.
* 4.1.3 Members of regular armed forces who profess allegiance to a government or an authority not recognized by the Detaining Power.
* 4.1.4 Civilians who have non-combat support roles with the military and who carry a valid identity card issued by the military they support.
* 4.1.5 Merchant marine and the crews of civil aircraft of the Parties to the conflict, who do not benefit by more favourable treatment under any other provisions of international law.
* 4.1.6 Inhabitants of a non-occupied territory, who on the approach of the enemy spontaneously take up arms to resist the invading forces, without having had time to form themselves into regular armed units, provided they carry arms openly and respect the laws and customs of war.
* 4.3 makes explicit that Article 33 takes precedence for the treatment of medical personnel of the enemy and chaplains of the enemy.
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I kind of agree with Esmerelda -- Chani, 10:18:11 06/01/08 Sun [1]
It is a problem. We know that Saul was seeing Ellen, and we know that Caprica has been made, designed, to seduce males; we also saw her first punching Tigh and then kissing him so the sex must have been consensual, she may even have initiated it, and Tigh may be the most vulnerable one actually but she was still a prisoner and the simple fact that Tigh were supposed to question her but turned the camera off points out he committed something reprehensible. He lied and crossed a line with a prisoner.
I don't think we can compare Tigh to Helo at all because it isn't about forming a relationship with a Cylon, it's about taking advantage of one's position that is a position of power. And it isn't about being in a time war either. Were Saul a cop or a prison warder it would be the same. Remember the prison warder in Oz who fucked Ryan O'Reilly ?
Helo and Athena got together on Caprica, they were already a couple, and Hera wasn't conceived when she was in the brick but a long time before that and as Helo didn't even know she was a Cylon. Helo may be guilty for falling in love with a Cylon and still loving Sharon as she was in the brick and finally marrying her, but he didn't use his position to visit a Cylon pretending to do his job while he was actually screwing her as she was kept within the walls of a prison.
Having said that, we don't know what Caprica told Cottle or Adama, but I bet that they both knew it wasn't a rape. Bill has always been very indulgent when it comes to Saul's weaknesses and mistakes so I am not surprised that after he expressed his anger he finally didn't punish him. It's totaly in character.
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You see, my approach to it is that Caprica, in the strictest sense of the word, isn't a prisoner... -- anyasbuttmonkey, 17:00:00 06/01/08 Sun [1]
Which is where our thoughts diverge :) I think it's one of those "agree to disagree" situations, but that's why I love this show!
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Re: You see, my approach to it is that Caprica, in the strictest sense of the word, isn't a prisoner... -- Esmerelda, 16:51:01 06/02/08 Mon [1]
See, as long as she's in the brig, IMO, she's a prisoner, cause she's you know, in the brig, under lock and key.
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Mmmmm.... -- Chani, 18:15:09 06/02/08 Mon [1]
She chose to be there but she's a prisoner still. Just liek Faith was a prisoner when she was in jail in L.A...
You're wrong my little cousin, don't fight! ;- )
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