46.1 I suppose I was a littley bit surprised but when I really thought about it, then no, I wasn't. Children hear more than adults realize and Pat is an introspective person (to me anyway) and I think he thought a lot of things and was able to put two and two together, even at a young age. The Riordan boyos are emotionally intelligent each in his own way. Perhaps his ability for reflection and internalizing has provided him with a comfort that has so far elluded Casey. I think they dealt with Brian's death in different ways and neither was worse or better, just different. 46.2 I think it was more than an observation. If it was only that, then Pat would have kept it to himself I think. Maybe he was gently letting Pamela know that he has got his brother's back and at the same time letting her know that he understands her. -- Cindy's Cottage

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Date Posted: 10:51:12 09/29/07 Sat
Author: Tracy
Subject: 46.1 I suppose I was a littley bit surprised but when I really thought about it, then no, I wasn't. Children hear more than adults realize and Pat is an introspective person (to me anyway) and I think he thought a lot of things and was able to put two and two together, even at a young age. The Riordan boyos are emotionally intelligent each in his own way. Perhaps his ability for reflection and internalizing has provided him with a comfort that has so far elluded Casey. I think they dealt with Brian's death in different ways and neither was worse or better, just different. 46.2 I think it was more than an observation. If it was only that, then Pat would have kept it to himself I think. Maybe he was gently letting Pamela know that he has got his brother's back and at the same time letting her know that he understands her.
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(46-2) I didn't intrepret Pat's comment in a negative way. He's friends with Jamie, understands him to be a totally honourable man, If that were not the case, Pat's comment might mean that he worries that Jamie and Pamela could take things too far. Any way you look at it, it's an unusual situation, a juggling act of sorts, that proves difficult for Jamie, Pamela and Casey to maintain in a delicate balance of necessity, friendship, respect and love. (NT) -- Denise, 10:54:58 09/29/07 Sat

I agree; I don't see it as negative. Its the facts plain and simple and Pat sees that like he sees most things. It isn't easy for Casey. It wouldn't be easy for anyone to have thier spouse involved in such a friendship, one charged with intense sexual attraction and an open declaration of love. That's the truth and Pamela can't deny it. But Pat doesn't blame Pamela just as Casey doesn't. I am musing here but in writing this I started to wonder if this smoldering attraction to Jamie that even Casey can't put out, may be the rub when Casey thinks of Pamela and Love- its as if, Casey isn't enough for her. I mean I'm not saying that's true but maybe Casey wonders/ fears. (NT) --

susiej, 11:24:19 09/29/07 Sat

Hmmm. I can't think of Jamie and Love in the same thought process. I'm not sure Casey would either, two very different things, IMHO. (NT) -- Denise, 11:48:55 09/29/07 Sat
- A betrayal with Jamie would be a very different thing- because it would be a betrayal of the heart, not merely of the body. I think Casey knows that neither Jamie nor Pamela would do that- it would mean too much. Jamie doesn't want a woman who is tied to another man. Casey has had to accept Jamie as part of Pamela's life as a simple matter of the fact that more than his love, she needs Jamie's friendship. He also trusts Jamie implicitly with Pamela, something that irks him, but that he also counts upon when he cannot be there. Things change a great deal in this third novel- the shift in balance between the three etc. Casey is very much a MAN now, boyhood is gone completely from him and he moves to a different place in his life, if that's not too cryptic. And we delve into Jamie's boyhood a bit and it's suddenly he who needs the help of others. (NT) -- celtgirl (), 11:56:39 09/29/07 Sat
  - Oh gawd! How can you do that to me?? OK, how long before we see Book #3? How will I be able to stand the wait? Cruel, cruel woman! (NT) -- Denise, 12:16:04 09/29/07 Sat
    - Well if I can ever get back to a regular writing schedule here, it'll be in about three years I imagine. I just ordered a bunch of books about Russia yesterday from Amazon. It's actually cheaper to order out of the US right now than to buy here. (NT) -- celtgirl, 13:50:38 09/29/07 Sat
      - I wonder if Canadian book prices will ever be par with US even though our dollar is now on an even keel. It peeves me terribly! When I'm visiting Windsor in December I should make a trip to Detroit to load up on books! (NT) -- Denise, 15:57:26 09/29/07 Sat
- I know what you mean Denise, but there are some basic similarities, older, attractive, rich, powerful, involved in politics and Jamie can be quite ruthless when need be. In many ways Casey is still finding his way in the world and as some have said he seemed sullen in Boston. I'm not saying Pamela compared Love to Jamie in any way, but Casey might have even if only on a subconscious level. (NT) -- susiej, 09:05:05 09/30/07 Sun

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