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Date Posted: 13:05:38 07/04/23 Tue
Author: No name
Subject: Re: Boy, 13yo, North America, apendix surgery with possible untold reasons and extra procedures
In reply to: Knut Holt 's message, "Boy, 13yo, North America, apendix surgery with possible untold reasons and extra procedures" on 03:47:46 06/29/23 Thu

Well, something was going on. Although the boy very likely did have his appendix removed, another possibility and it's just that, is that it could have possibly have been a placebo surgery. This would be a procedure designed to simulate the actual surgery complete with anesthesia and probably superficial incision, but no procedure beyond that. Why would anyone do that? I don't know. Could be some sort of study to determine the long term effects of placebo surgeries. The kid is in the prime age group for getting appendicitis, ages 10-30. So, for example, it could be to answer the question, are kids who think their appendix has already been removed less likely to get appendicitis? I don't know that this is the case, and have only the info presented in the original post. But I believe it is a possibility, however remote. Placebo surgery is a real thing, though its ethics are very questionable:

https://www.advisory.com/daily-briefing/2017/08/03/sham-surgery


>Boy, 13yo, North Am, apendix surgery with possible
>untold additions
>
>This happened as early teen boy, 13, in North
>America, in 2010 or later.
>
>I had an exam or surgery in my stomach area. I had
>my appendix removed.
>
>The procedure occured at a health center. They were
>taking out teens appendixs My parents brought me to
>something called the teen wellness center
>
>SYMPTOMS AND OBSERVATIONS AFTER THE PROCEDURE
>
>I had pain, irritition or other problems in my mouth.
>I had pain irritation or other problems in my urethra
>or bladder. I had pain irritation or gas in my
>colon or lower stomach. My belly hurt after i woke
>up.
>
>ARRANGEMENTS AND ANESTHESIA BEFORE AND DURING THE
>PTOCEDURE
>
>I also had some bandages on my belly. I was given
>sedative medicines through my mouth I was given
>medication intravenously. They gave me gas through a
>mask. They had me take something to relax before they
>took me to the operating room and then put a mask on
>me and and iv in my arm.
>
>ARRANGEMENTS AFTER THE PROCEDURE
>
>An IV with fluids and pain medication. No brething
>tube, just a mask. I had catheter for a couple of
>hours after i woke up. Heart monitor. Just regular
>stuff like checking my heart and breathing. Asleep
>the whole time.
>
>COMMRNTS
>
>He had general anesthesia with breathing tube, the
>normal breath paralyzed, and artifcial ventilation,
>but such details were not told him, and the breathing
>tube was taken out before he was fully awake so he
>does not remember it.
>
>What is descibed is a normal procedure for taking out
>apendix with laparoscopic surgery.
>
>But from the answar, it looks like they called in all
>early teen boys to remove the apendixes. This is not
>something to recommend and it use resouces and brings
>costs.
>
>Highly probable there were unsaid reasons for the
>ordeal.
>
>They possibly harvested appendixes and other tissue
>for research and to sell to medical companies for
>making products.
>
>Highly probable they performed an inspection in the
>bladder, rectum, colon of the teens. The symptoms told
>about point to this, and
>
>Such an mandatory inspection can be useful for teens
>in that age. But it is often perfomed on teen under
>anesthesia without telling it.
>
>But the anesthesia gives risks and it should be done
>with methods not needing general anesthesia, and not
>telling point to dishonesty among the staff.

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