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Date Posted: 04:59:00 08/03/21 Tue
Author: Knut Holt
Subject: Re: Some further answars and questions
In reply to: Melissa 's message, "Re: Some further answars and questions" on 02:56:29 08/03/21 Tue

Hi

Thanks for your interesting answars. Much of what you tell is standard in these projects and much I have got reported many times, which makes me able to explain a lot.

But there are aslo new things so I learn even more.

Both the girls and the boys undervent much the same thorrough gynecology-type exam.

In girls much will be done through the vagina and anus. In boys much will of course be done at the penis and testicles. But boys also have a prostate area and an area all the way between their legs which are part of the genitals.

To see the inside of these areas one much use the urethra much like one uses the vagina in girls. Therefore they looked into the urethra and all the way to the bladder of the boys. Also boys will typically have more done through the anus, since the prostate area lies very near the rectum.

Even though this gynechology type exam at the camp was more thorough than a standard exam for the girls, boys actually often have this very thorough exam as something normal, but it is seldome spoken about.

It does not happen to all boys in all societies, but it is quite common, and in some societies it is mandatory for all boys around 12 and in early teens. Howver, boys are often given full anesthesia so that they often do not know themselves all of it.

I also think that the gynecology exam was to plan the more thorrough internal exam done under full anesthesia in the operating room, with a full inspection through anus, vagina and urethra, and with surgical adjustments.

But I think this exam, both of the girls and boys also was an orthopedic exam, especially of the hip joints, of the inner parts of the pelvic spine and of the pelvic muscles.

I hink the extreme spread position you were placed into, was to be able to examine your hip joints from the inner side, your pelvic muscles and your pelvic pine. The positioned also made your anus, rectum and lower colon very available, and that they examined your pelvic muscles and the inner parts of your lower spine with ultrasound probes.

I also think that the steadily wider things inserted into your vagina, was not for an exam of the vagina, but actually an exam of the nuscles and tendons you have between your legs, especially regarding flexibility. I think the vibration had the purpose of relaxing these muscles. I will pose some questions that might clearify this.

Then my questions.

Did they use ultrasound equipment at your hip joints from the outer side and from the side between your legs.

Did they use a very long ultrasound probe through your anus, that seemed to be inserted a long way up into your stomach? This might be a thing they used to examine the inner part or your lower spine.

Did they also flex your arms in such an extreme way, and did they use ultrasound equipment around your shoulders?

Did they take ex-ray pictures from around your hip koints and your shoulders?

Did they take ultrasound or x-ray from other joints?

From what you tell it looks like your brother also had such an exam at the camp. Or perhaps he had the gynecology-like exam as a mandatory thing outside the camp?

Knut Holt

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