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Re: Football attendance? -- Cr, 11/15/15 10:54:58pm Sun
>One other factor, the U makes tailgating as
>unappealing as possible for the kids. I've seen the
>way they're treated by Campo, I wouldn't want any part
>of it either.
Disgusting! Besides Colgate is a football school! Just look at the history over the last 20 years. The students would rather tip a few than be in the stands. That's the case around the U,S.
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Re: Football attendance? -- gatefan, 11/15/15 9:01:10pm Sun
>I was on the field w/ the players after the game, they
>really don't care about the fan support. Their
>families were there, lots of ex-players, and most
>importantly their teammates... they couldn't have been
>happier, was great to see.
>
>Students haven't come to football games for years,
>there were definitely more of them at sold out hockey
>Saturday night. Personal theory is it's a combination
>of a few things; Saturday afternoons are tagged as
>"Fraturdays" which are some of the better parties of
>the week. The coaches don't allow the players to join
>any fraternity other than DU so there's not the
>connection between the players and the regular
>students that existed back in the 80's (when we all
>had fraternity brothers on the field so went to the
>games).
An email to attend the HOCKEY game was blasted out by the school to ALL students.
NO such email was sent for football.....very sad! and the players were aware and it DID bother them!!
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Re: Football attendance? -- Hoopie, 11/15/15 9:43:36pm Sun
>>I was on the field w/ the players after the game, they
>>really don't care about the fan support. Their
>>families were there, lots of ex-players, and most
>>importantly their teammates... they couldn't have been
>>happier, was great to see.
>>
>>Students haven't come to football games for years,
>>there were definitely more of them at sold out hockey
>>Saturday night. Personal theory is it's a combination
>>of a few things; Saturday afternoons are tagged as
>>"Fraturdays" which are some of the better parties of
>>the week. The coaches don't allow the players to join
>>any fraternity other than DU so there's not the
>>connection between the players and the regular
>>students that existed back in the 80's (when we all
>>had fraternity brothers on the field so went to the
>>games).
>
>An email to attend the HOCKEY game was blasted out by
>the school to ALL students.
>NO such email was sent for football.....very sad! and
>the players were aware and it DID bother them!!
Maybe whoever does that sort of thing can encourage students ....including footballers.....to attend Monday's opening hoop game vs Cornell.
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Re: Football attendance? -- Maven, 11/15/15 10:56:33pm Sun
>>>I was on the field w/ the players after the game,
>they
>>>really don't care about the fan support. Their
>>>families were there, lots of ex-players, and most
>>>importantly their teammates... they couldn't have
>been
>>>happier, was great to see.
>>>
>>>Students haven't come to football games for years,
>>>there were definitely more of them at sold out hockey
>>>Saturday night. Personal theory is it's a
>combination
>>>of a few things; Saturday afternoons are tagged as
>>>"Fraturdays" which are some of the better parties of
>>>the week. The coaches don't allow the players to
>join
>>>any fraternity other than DU so there's not the
>>>connection between the players and the regular
>>>students that existed back in the 80's (when we all
>>>had fraternity brothers on the field so went to the
>>>games).
>>
>>An email to attend the HOCKEY game was blasted out by
>>the school to ALL students.
>>NO such email was sent for football.....very sad! and
>>the players were aware and it DID bother them!!
>
>Maybe whoever does that sort of thing can encourage
>students ....including footballers.....to attend
>Monday's opening hoop game vs Cornell.
Football players do support basketball!
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Re: Football attendance? -- Hoopie, 11/16/15 4:58:40pm Mon
>>>>I was on the field w/ the players after the game,
>>they
>>>>really don't care about the fan support. Their
>>>>families were there, lots of ex-players, and most
>>>>importantly their teammates... they couldn't have
>>been
>>>>happier, was great to see.
>>>>
>>>>Students haven't come to football games for years,
>>>>there were definitely more of them at sold out
>hockey
>>>>Saturday night. Personal theory is it's a
>>combination
>>>>of a few things; Saturday afternoons are tagged as
>>>>"Fraturdays" which are some of the better parties of
>>>>the week. The coaches don't allow the players to
>>join
>>>>any fraternity other than DU so there's not the
>>>>connection between the players and the regular
>>>>students that existed back in the 80's (when we all
>>>>had fraternity brothers on the field so went to the
>>>>games).
>>>
>>>An email to attend the HOCKEY game was blasted out by
>>>the school to ALL students.
>>>NO such email was sent for football.....very sad!
>and
>>>the players were aware and it DID bother them!!
>>
>>Maybe whoever does that sort of thing can encourage
>>students ....including footballers.....to attend
>>Monday's opening hoop game vs Cornell.
>
>Football players do support basketball!
Agreed, Maven. They do, they're supportive, and we need them to continue attending. Go 'gate hoops!!
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Re: Football attendance? -- Cr, 11/16/15 2:36:26pm Mon
>>Just one question ... how many of these posters were
>>at the game?
>
>Why this should matter to you I don't know. I'm a
>regular attendee as are Indian and CR, saw Indian in
>the lot Saturday. I'd expect the other posters make
>it when they can... as we all know Hamilton isn't the
>most convenient spot to get to.
>
>Point being made on the other thread, that maybe we
>should have more road games & not demand home &
>home... is reasonable, as it's not like we've got some
>hidden population center in central NY to draw from to
>increase attendance.
Thank you Gate'83.
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Re: Football attendance? -- gatefan, 11/16/15 3:33:28pm Mon
being away from 9/26 and not playing a home game again unto 10/31 can't help home attendance!!!
that's 5 weeks when the weather is nice with NO home game!!
I would think that a greater portion of the student body would come out for a nice Oct game?!
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Re: "The coaches don't allow the players to join any fraternity other than DU..." -- Gate'83, 11/16/15 5:33:03pm Mon
>Really??
Yes, really. Has been that way for some time. And still a better deal than the other athletes get, hockey, hoop, lax and golf(!) aren't allowed to join at all (not sure on the other sports, those are the ones where I've discussed with the coaches).
Coaches universally point to the amount of time playing a D1 sport takes up, combined with schoolwork they don't want their kids to have another distraction that takes them away from their focus on academics & athletics. Fair enough, but this insulates the athletes from the rest of the student body which then has no personal stake in our team's games.
I was talking to a sophomore in the parking lot before the football game Saturday, his plan was to leave the tailgate & go party with his friends... saving his football related fandom for the Giants on Sunday. Since he knows the Giants players about as well as the Colgate ones, he's choosing to watch the higher level. Hard to blame him.
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Re: -- gate, 11/16/15 7:17:30pm Mon
Hard to blame him? Respect your opinion, but that is such a warped statement that I don't even know where to begin. I drive over 3 hours for every home game (and several away games), sit through all kinds of weather, spend all kinds of money, and I don't know any player personally...but my loyalty to Colgate is never in question. I also wouldn't judge any student's decision to not attend a game, unfortunate though it may be, even when there are playoff implications. Personally, I can't wait until Saturday when I can do it all over again, especially since it is likely to be our last home game. I am anticipating the lowest attendance of the season vs. Bucknell.
I think allowing alcohol would raise some attendance and "spirits" in the stands. C'mon, Vicky, we need to stay warm out there!
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Re: -- Gate'83, 11/16/15 9:48:44pm Mon
>Hard to blame him? Respect your opinion, but that is
>such a warped statement that I don't even know where
>to begin. I drive over 3 hours for every home game
>(and several away games), sit through all kinds of
>weather, spend all kinds of money, and I don't know
>any player personally...but my loyalty to Colgate is
>never in question. I also wouldn't judge any
>student's decision to not attend a game, unfortunate
>though it may be, even when there are playoff
>implications. Personally, I can't wait until Saturday
>when I can do it all over again, especially since it
>is likely to be our last home game. I am anticipating
>the lowest attendance of the season vs. Bucknell.
>
>I think allowing alcohol would raise some attendance
>and "spirits" in the stands. C'mon, Vicky, we need to
>stay warm out there!
Hard to blame him in that the school has done very little to encourage his attendance. He doesn't know the players, which I think was a big driver of student attendance/loyalty back in my day. Campus security, which represents Colgate in his mind, views him as a criminal in the parking lot. He can go drink with coeds Saturday and watch the Giants Sunday. What have we done for him that makes him think that Colgate football should be a priority?
I say this from the perspective of an alum who also comes back for the games. Just giving the student POV...
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Re: -- pigskin, 11/18/15 10:04:04am Wed
He can go drink with>coeds Saturday and watch the Giants Sunday. What have we done for him that makes him think that Colgate>football should be a priority?
Thees students attend Colgate University the last time I looked. 'Nuf said. If the students don't think they owe their alma mater attendance at football games on Saturdays, then I'm a monkey's uncle. In my day there was no question that the whole student body would turn out, and enthusiastically - it's school spirit after all. It truly shows you the depths of apathy today's kids have for their colleges/universities when they choose booze and coeds at the frats on a Saturday afternoon instead of supporting the teams that represent them on the field/court. Gheesh!
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Gate Raider is right -- gate88, 11/19/15 10:54:14am Thu
Gate Raider has some good ideas here.
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Poster "Culture'" post below is the trend -- Putting Lipstick on an FCS Raider 2015, 11/19/15 1:12:34pm Thu
GR's approach is like kissing your sister!
>Gate Raider has some good ideas here.
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