I am not trying to start an argument with people on whether it's right or wrong. I am just confused on the constant eligibility rule changing. As you may or may not know, there is a woman wanting to sue Miss American and Miss World for discriminatory eligibility rules. Particularly regarding the fact that you can't be married and/or be a mother. Recently, I went on the Miss America site and they seemed to "change" the eligibility rules. Miss America ONLY mentions AGE eligibility not marital status, being a woman, etc. Which, if a newbie were to visit the site, a married woman perhaps could think she could compete. Don't believe me? Go look at the Miss America website rules yourself. I think they changed the rules but are keeping quiet about it. Here are my thoughts: -- Guru Message Board

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Subject: I am not trying to start an argument with people on whether it's right or wrong. I am just confused on the constant eligibility rule changing. As you may or may not know, there is a woman wanting to sue Miss American and Miss World for discriminatory eligibility rules. Particularly regarding the fact that you can't be married and/or be a mother. Recently, I went on the Miss America site and they seemed to "change" the eligibility rules. Miss America ONLY mentions AGE eligibility not marital status, being a woman, etc. Which, if a newbie were to visit the site, a married woman perhaps could think she could compete. Don't believe me? Go look at the Miss America website rules yourself. I think they changed the rules but are keeping quiet about it. Here are my thoughts:

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Date Posted: 11:09:36 10/15/24 Tue
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It is clear that Miss America is in debt. It is clear that the participation numbers are EXTREMELY low. It is clear that MAO needs help. I know people will disagree with me, but I think allowing married women with no dependents to compete is fine. People are scared that perhaps a married women would get "with child" but for goodness sakes people, why don't you have the same ideology when it comes to a contestant dating/engaged to someone? Its 2024... if they don't have dependents, I say let them compete. We need the numbers, we need the funds, and quite frankly it would be a nice change of pace.

If someone could confirm with seeing the **NOVEMBER local contracts that the original rules still applies or if you are an ED and can ask about the lack of eligibility clarity on the website, that would be great! Thanks!

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(syn-047-231-178-134.res.spectrum.com/47.231.178.134) 16:21:49 10/15/24 Tue

There is no evidence that Robin's MA is in debt. Where are you getting that information? All the scholarships she announced have been paid, all vendors from the pageant have been paid or we would be hearing about that. So if you are going to make a claim like that cite your facts please. I am sure everyone would like to know but only if it is factually true. (NT) No name
(unn-185-24-11-171.datapacket.com/185.24.11.171) 20:38:54 10/15/24 Tue

So you have no comment on the fact that there was a potential eligibility change. It’s clear on their website that all the requirements listen to compete is only an age requirement -- No name, 21:23:03 10/15/24 Tue (syn-047-231-178-134.res.spectrum.com/47.231.178.134)

The actual contract goes into much more detail, please move on. (NT) -- No name, 08:04:32 10/16/24 Wed (NoHost/128.163.239.233)

Would you be so kind to share those details so those who don’t know the updated eligibility rules can be informed? Thanks for your kindness and understanding (NT) -- No name, 13:52:42 10/16/24 Wed (syn-047-231-178-134.res.spectrum.com/47.231.178.134)

Contract (Click In) -- No name, 14:58:03 10/16/24 Wed (NoHost/128.163.239.233)

From the looks of this the “never been pregnant” part has been taken out. So it looks like you could have had a baby but not be the legal guardian of the child? (NT) -- No name, 15:06:33 10/16/24 Wed (NoHost/172.56.65.35)

OMG you are really reaching. (NT) -- No name, 15:21:58 10/16/24 Wed (NoHost/128.163.239.233)
That sounds about right. Also divorced women can compete (NT) -- No name, 16:17:13 10/16/24 Wed (syn-047-231-178-134.res.spectrum.com/47.231.178.134)

This also includes young women who have terminated an unplanned pregnancy.
(NT) -- No name, 13:09:23 10/17/24 Thu (NoHost/172.59.227.172)

Very happy to see the contract allowing medically-legal females compete again. Pretty sure they went back to natural-born females only for a while? If your doctor recognizes you medically as a female, you should be able to compete! (NT) -- No name, 16:44:47 10/16/24 Wed (NoHost/172.56.201.223)

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