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Subject: Mass Immigration: The List of Excuses


Author:
Dr. Shannon
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Date Posted: 20:04:20 10/10/13 Thu



Massive Immigration is being unjustly forced upon us.
It's important to prove this fact.
But, it's difficult to rationalize with our opposition.
They'll find countless reasons to justify this flooding of human migration.

Often, these claims are flimsy and irrational.
And, the sheer contradictions alone should disprove them.


This is why I've decided to make a list of various reasons which are given by our adversaries.

Personally, I would love to add detailed commentary to rebuttal every claim.
But, for the time being, I will refrain.
This entire thread will strictly give reasons by those who promote massive immigration.
We can respond to these claims later.

HOWEVER;
there are a few things to keep an eye on.

You'll notice that many reasons listed are absurd, ridiculous, or just plain contradictory.

Indeed, some people promote massive immigration.
But, they always give senseless excuses.
More so;
some of reasons below are flat-out declarations of warfare against us.

And, please be reminded once again:
this entire logic is only being launched against Western Nations. (aka, "white countries".)
Their pushing for massive immigration into Western nations. All Western nations are being targeted. And, Only Western nations are under attack.
In other words:
They're launching a war against every predominantly-white country.
This alone PROVES the invalidity of it all.
But, our enemies insistently try to justify their cause.


So, Let's get started:

(also note:
at a future date; we could provide a numerical list.
but, this forum will merely stick to the basics.)

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[> Subject: The List of Excuses


Author:
Dr. Shannon
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Date Posted: 20:43:41 10/10/13 Thu

Okay..
Here are some reasons given used by adversaries to justify flooding Western nations with immigration.

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"We need them. We couldn't survive without immigrants."
They do all the work.
Without immigrants; we couldn't even tie our own shoe laces.
And, we'd probably all end-up starving.

"Immigrants provide a good source of cheap labor"

"We were all immigrants anyway"

"They help us"
Immigrants make this country into a better place.

"we need a constant stream of immigration in order to revitalize society".
So, it's necessary to add newcomers.

"hey, this country doesn't really belong to you"
"You took the land from The Indians"

"This land really belongs to the native Americans"
(an argument specifically used against USA, or Australia).

"It's payback time. You're responsible for all the slavery, murder, and warfare throughout history".
Therefore, white people deserve to be persecuted.

"Hey, the native people of Europe aren't having enough children.
Therefore, we must replace them with massive immigration"
After all;
if your people can't sustain its population; then the only solution is to bring millions of foreigners.


"Adding different cultures is good for the country".
"Different peoples will enhance & enrich society."


"hey, like it or not; we're now living in a global economy"
"So, you'd better get used to it"
We're trading with other nations. And, this includes human migration??????


Massive immigration promotes global equality.
Therefore, massive immigration is orchestrated "in the name of equality".
We must 'redistribute the wealth' to all peoples.


"we need to eradicate racism".
So,
massive immigration will teach society to become more "tolerant of others".
We're doing this in order to end Xenophobia.
Mass immigration is a lesson on tolerance.


"Hey, white people are leaving religion"
"Therefore, we need immigrants to replenish those numbers".
The media has engineered our society to shun religion.
Our churches are loosing members;
so, we've gotta replace the loses by bringing religious foreigners.


"The Bible teaches us to 'Welcome Thy Neighbor'" ???????

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[> [> Subject: Re: The List of Excuses II


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Dr. Shannon
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Date Posted: 21:12:45 10/10/13 Thu


"We're just trying to stop European nations from fighting against each-other"
We need to flood European nations with millions of immigrants.
Otherwise; those Europeans would kill each other.
So, we're just trying to stop them from harming fellow Europeans.
??????????


"Immigration is a tool being used to prevent all future wars".
"We're bringing peace to the world".
So, massive immigration will save us!!!
No more war!!!


"Hey, look at EARTH from a topographical view"
Look at NASA photos 200,000 miles above.
"I DON'T SEE ANY BORDERS".

"We're doing this because we for the purpose of removing all national borders.
"This will save the world".


"Immigration is a good thing".
You should want to live amongst different cultures.
"You should WANT to become minorities"
"You should look forward to it".


"Let's all learn to love one another".
The world should come together.

When your culture becomes mixed amongst others,
things will be better this way.


"immigrants to all-the-work which the rest of us don't wanna do"



"Immigrants can do all the hard work because Americans are too lazy".


We're having a big economic boom, right now.
So, we should continue accepting illegal immigrants until the economy shows down.
But Since the economy is growing; immigrants aren't taking any jobs from us.


"This country is now slowing down.
Therefore, we need immigrants to get us out of this recession"
??????????????????????????????????



"Mass immigration helps the economy".
More people means a bigger economy.
(Many economists use this simple logic)


(Here's a ridiculous one)
"We wanna turn Australia into a "SUPER POWER".
So, we need to add millions.
Otherwise, Australia can't be a player on the world stage.

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[> Subject: The List of Excuses 3


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Dr. Shannon
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Date Posted: 18:23:24 10/11/13 Fri


"Mass Immigration IS a free-market idea".
We're all competing for jobs, and we should hire the best person.
So,For example:
If a Korean Citizen is better qualified for the job;
foreigners should be hired by your local Business instead of you.


"What's the matter? Are you afraid of alittle competition?"
Hey, if white people are so great; then why should they be concerned?


"Immigrants are just searching for a better life".
They'll never be hostile toward you.
There's no bad feelings here.
Migrants are just trying to raise their standard of living.


We must accept refugees from war-torn countries.
This is a humanitarian mission.
So, whenever countries are engaged in conflict; Europe should accept everyone who's fleeing from battle.


Many of these foreign countries are a terrible, unsafe places.
Some cultures practice public executions, floggings, & beheadings.
So, in order to escape persecution;
they should all be able to migrate into Europe.


"In some countries; women get stoned for infidelity.
So, the only solution is massive immigration into Western Nations".


"Mass Immigration can help reduce World Poverty"
IF all the people from poorer nations migrate to the wealthier nations; then world hunger is solved!!!


There's a shortage of skilled workers in technical fields.
So, Silicon Valley needs better trained workers.
And since our students haven't learned anything in school;
the best jobs should all be filled by foreigners.
(What are we gonna do with our worthless education?
American students have been learning "Women's Studies" "Black History"and "Lesbian pride" in the classroom.)


"the world should come together as one"


Politicians are only looking after our best interest.
....and, They know what's best for us.



(here's a more bizarre excuse)
Muslims propose a threat to world peace.
They'll have nuclear capability, which will inevitably be used by terrorists.
So, if we just allow them to control the entire world...
the thread of nuclear war will disappear.
(response from MRM: NO IT WON'T).

"There's no such thing as race."
"RACE is merely a social construct".
So, it's impossible for genocide to exist.
Because race itself doesn't exist.
We're all part of ONE race "The Human Race".
So, Europeans aren't being targeted for ethnic cleansing.
They're just being replaced by themselves.


"Everyone should be given an equal chance in life"
(Of course, this Marxist ideology says nothing about equal births, or population growth.


(here's a ridiculous one)
"Save The Earth"
We need to preserve our resources.
So, massive immigration is necessary in order to save the planet. ???????


"We need massive immigration in order to learn tolerance"

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[> Subject: The List of Excuses 4


Author:
Dr. Shannon
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Date Posted: 03:32:35 10/14/13 Mon

"because Western Nations are wealthier"
and, migration helps to narrow the gap between rich & poor.


(contradictions)
"The Ukraine needs mass immigration, because they're a very poor country."
??????
And somehow, migrants will lift the Ukrainian economy into 1st World Status.


(more contradictions).
"Sweden needs massive immigration because their economy is stumbling".
They're experiencing economic decline. Therefore mass immigration is needed.


"Teachers from China should migrate into the USA and Canada...because the Teachers Salary is 30 times higher here"
Hey, they're entitled to earn a good salary, right?
So, the solution is to move into Western nations.
Why should a Chinese scholar only earn 10 US dollars per week under the communist regime?


"Rich countries should actively recruit medical personnel from poorer countries"
Yea! This will aid the health of ???? who ????
(response:
It surely won't help people from the 3rd world.)


"We need foreign medical workers because it's the only way to stop disease in developing nations"
How? By telling them to flea the source nation?



"Mass immigration is necessary because of Public Health Concerned" immunization.
?????????????????????????


"We need mass immigration into European countries because Europeans are the oppressors".
So, people should move there?????


Mass Immigration can save lives!
we need to rescue slave laborers & other persecuted people.
(how long can this last).


"It only makes sense to have immigration into better nations"
"After all; who would want to migrate to Syria or Yemen"
"No one would even want to enter Dubai or Pakistan."
"So, for that reason; this explains why people are only flooding into Western Nations"
"Who would wanna move into a middle eastern country?"
(response: and the solution is to allow worse nations to expand? This will only make all places worse).


A good reason for mass immigration:
whites are xenophobic.
So, this will teach them to be less fearful of others.
?????????
(once again: more contradictions.
they admit Middle Easterners have archaic cultures, yet accuse White guys of racism).



"we can all coexist."
(this rule only applies to some countries?)
Race merely a social construct).



"The World should all come together"
I'm an idealist!
Wouldn't the world be a better place if we could all just get together and love one another!
(dogma? Contradictions? Change of pace? forcing it upon us?)



"How selfish".
"You want to keep these nice places just for yourself!"



"European countries never cared when other countries were engaged in battles, civil wars, human rights violations"
"White people only take notice when they're affected by something."
did they really care when other people were dying in wars all-over-the world?
Did they care when people were starving?
Did they care when countries were invading neighboring territories.
But, the issue of mass immigration gets alot of attention because it concerns your own best interest.
(response: you're admitting these countries are always engaged in violent civil wars. You initially claimed that white guys are responsible for all the warfare and oppression.)
(response 2: We never cared about other people in need?
Western Nations are the only ones who try to help.
USA For Africa, Band Aid, Live Aid, Unicef, etc etc)
(response 3: you speak of War-Torn countries. and these conflicts will only expand into Europe. Zionists claim that "mass immigration is a good thing". "These immigrants help you". But clearly; their goals are malicious. )





"People have been migrating throughout human history".
Sure. Human populations have been relocating since the beginning to time.
So, everyone should begin migrating into Western nations?
(Cultural Marxism? Logic is not independent of content.)


here's an abstract one:
"most other societies are ALSO experiencing massive immigration".


"Mass immigration gives reason to teach classes promoting tolerance".
{In other words; you've found another reason to indoctrinate our children.}




"It's all about stopping bigotry"
When Turks begin migrating into Greece,
this means; the Greeks are intolerant & Xenophobic.
So, anyone who opposes massive immigration is "Racist".

So, this same basic rule applies in all Western Nations.
If Moroccans are invading Spain, the Spanish must be bigots.
If England faces massive immigration; the British must be Xenophobic.
If Sweden has high annual immigration; that's because Swedes are intolerant.
?????????????
"Like it or not: you're gonna learn to accept others"
(once again: An old Frankfurt School idealogy "Logic is not independent of content")
(on similar terms: Western Nations are forced to accept Transvestite Liberation. In fact, normalcy has become outcast. Liberals shun marriage & relationships between Man & Woman. Cultural marxism).



Mass Immigration:
"Hey, deal with it".
"Get used to it"
"You'd better learn to just accept it"
"Because, like it or not; that's how things are gonna be".




"Western Nations can act as a SAFETY VALVE in order to prevent other nations from becoming over populated.

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[> Subject: Excuses #5: Bizarre and just plain ridiculous


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Dr. Shannon
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Date Posted: 15:17:41 10/23/13 Wed


"It's necessary to pay-out Social Security benefits. We need millions of immigrants in order to take care of our aging population"
(isn't that thoughtful!!! They're only trying to care for the aging. So, let's replace them. ...and, who will care for these immigrants when they get older?)


Here are a few bizarre claims:
"Actually, Western nations AREN'T the only ones targeted by massive immigration. Most advanced countries are currently experiencing mass immigration. Japan, China, Dubai, Singapore. They've opened the gates, too".
(not true. In those countries, Migrant workers MUST leave once their visa has expired).

"There's no conspiracy against Western Nations! Nobody's migrating to Japan simply because people wouldn't want to. There's no desire to settle in Japan or China. So, that's why most immigrants choose Western Nations".
(once again, contradictions)

"Most other countries are already multicultural societies! So, it's not merely Europe who's expected to accept diversity".
(Once again: completely false information. They're comparing nations with longstanding ethnic groups to current massive immigration. Just because most nations have various ethnic groups; that doesn't mean they're multicultural. Also, those different ethnic groups have ALREADY been there for hundreds, if not thousands of years. So, there's no comparison whatsoever).



(here's a good one:)
Europe really ISN'T experiencing massive immigration.
It's just a figment of our imagination.
The claims are "over exaggerated".
"Most European nations are over 99% homogeneous". France, Sweden, England... There's no massive immigration into any of these countries!!! Nah, it's just a figment of your imagination.
(once again... contradictions. And, just plain dishonesty. Their goals are quite clear. So, why deny it?)


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(Here's a ridiculous one:)
We've gotta have migrant workers doing all the work that 'nobody else wants to do'.
.....It would be RACIST to expect blacks to perform hard labor, so let's have the Mexicans do it instead!!!.

(here's a dangerous one:)
"It's payback time for the holocaust. So, let's wreck the Western countries".

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[> Subject: Re: The List of Excuses #6 Accurate and Dangerous


Author:
Dr shannon
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Date Posted: 22:58:34 12/09/13 Mon

What's a leading reason to support massive immigration?

"...you'd better support liberal immigration policies, or else we just won't vote for your party.."
"....so, if you're opposed to massive immigration; we won't vote for you. We'll only support candidates who keep the borders open".

These are the types of ultimatums which we've come to expect.
So, it doesn't matter who many immigrants currently reside.
In the future;
they continuously plan upon flooding this country with [more of their own people].
and, if we attempt to place any limits whatsoever; then we'll never win a political election.

That's the ultimatum which we are given.

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