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* Welcome to the US based Mabuhay Pageants ~ SUPPORT & MESSAGE BOARD { Initially established in June of 1996 by our friend, Ione. *

{ SHOW YOUR SUPPORT and the Filipino MABUHAY spirit by sharing your few words of support, best wishes and good luck greetings to ALL our BEAUTY QUEENS for the year 2009. Your words of support, greetings, best wishes and even your unsolicited advice will go a long way in wishing nothing but the best for all the ladies as they embark on their journey to represent our Filipino KABABAYANS around the world. So please take the time to write encouraging words of support. }
* To all the upcoming and newly-crowned Queens, from the entire Mabuhay Pageants Team U.S.A. our message of support, prayers and best wishes. MABUHAY! *
2009 Binibining Pilipinas INTERNATIONAL {Melody Adelheid Manuel Gersbach, 23, 170} for Miss International '09, 2009 Binibining Pilipinas UNIVERSE {Paula Bianca Ramos Manalo, 22, 178} for Miss Universe '09, & 2009 Binibining Pilipinas WORLD {Marie-Ann Bonquin Umali, 22, 173} for Miss World '09
(03.07.09)

Worthmentioning Titleholder:
2008-2009 Vice Miss/1st runner-up/Miss Philippines Air/Miss TOURISM QUEEN INT'L Philippines {Marie Razel Triff Eguia, 21, 170} for Miss TQI '09

2009-2010 Vice Miss/Miss Eco-Tourism/Miss PAGCOR/Miss TOURISM QUEEN INT'L Philippines {Grezilda Ennis Simondo Adelantar, 21, 173} for Miss TQI '10 & 2009 Miss EARTH Philippines {Sandra Inez Suravilla Seifert, 25, 175} for Miss Earth '09
(05.10.09)

2009 Mutya ng Pilipinas TOURISM {Jacqueline Durano Schubert, 18, 168} for Miss Intercontinental '09 & 2009 Mutya ng Pilipinas INTERNATIONAL {Jane Riel Bañares, 20, 170} for Top Model of the World & Miss Tourism Int'l '09
(08.09.09)

{thanks to Missosology.org, Jhensie, Bruce Casanova, RougeStudio, Boris, Boyet Blas, Jay Directo, OPMB}
***GRANDSLAM PHILIPPINE TITLEHOLDERS***

1.) MISS INTERNATIONAL 1964 : GEMMA TERESA GUERRERO CRUZ
2.) MISS UNIVERSE 1969 : GLORIA MARIA ASPILLERA DIAZ
3.) MISS INTERNATIONAL 1970 : AURORA MCKENNY PIJUAN
4.) MISS UNIVERSE 1973 : MARIA MARGARITA ROXAS MORAN
5.) MISS INTERNATIONAL 1979 : MIMILANIE LAUREL MARQUEZ
6.) MISS INTERNATIONAL 2005 : PRECIOUS LARA SAN AGUSTIN QUIGAMAN
7.) MISS TOURISM QUEEN INT'L 2006 : JUSTINE VINLUAN GABIONZA
8.) MISS EARTH 2008 : KARLA PAULA GINTEROY HENRY

Karla Paula Henry, Miss Earth '08

April Love Jordan, Beauty of the World '09 & Miss Int'l Beauty & Model Winner '09 (Top 10 Bb. Pilipinas '09)

Links
International Pageants for 2008-2009:
MISS UNIVERSE 2009 in the BAHAMAS: 23.08.09 { Stefania Fernandez : VENEZUELA }
*PHL delegate: PAMELA BIANCA RAMOS MANALO*

MISS TOURISM QUEEN INT'L 2009 in CHINA: 29.08.09 { Ekaterina Grushanina : RUSSIA }
*PHL delegate: MARIE RAZEL TRIFF EGUIA*

MISS INTERCONTINENTAL 2009 in BELARUS: 27.09.09 { TBD : TBD }
*PHL delegate: JACQUELINE DURANO SCHUBERT*

MISS EARTH 2009 in ?: 22.11.09 { TBD : TBD }
*PHL delegate: SANDRA INEZ SURAVILLA SEIFERT*

MISS INTERNATIONAL 2009 in MACAU: 28.11.09 { TBD : TBD }
*PHL delegate: MELODY ADELHEID MANUEL GERSBACH*

TOP MODEL of the WORLD 2009 in GERMANY: ?.?.09 { TBD : TBD }
*PHL delegate: JANE RIEL BAÑARES*

MISS WORLD 2009 in SOUTH AFRICA: 12.12.09 { TBD : TBD }
*PHL delegate: MARIE-ANN BONQUIN UMALI*

MISS TOURISM QUEEN INT'L 2008 in CHINA: 12.04.08 { Silvia Vanessa Cornejo : PERU }
*PHL delegate: Krystle Ann Gonzalez Dizon*

MISS UNIVERSE 2008 in VIETNAM: 14.07.08 { Dayana Mendoza : VENEZUELA }
*PHL delegate: Jennifer Tarol Barrientos*

MISS INTERNATIONAL 2008 in MACAU: 08.11.08 { Alejandra Andreu : SPAIN }
*PHL delegate: Patricia Isabel Medina Fernandez {Top 12 SF}*

MISS EARTH 2008 in the PHILIPPINES: 09.11.08 { Karla Paula Henry : PHILIPPINES }
*PHL delegate: Karla Paula Ginteroy Henry {WINNER}*

MISS WORLD 2008 in SOUTH AFRICA: 13.12.08 { Kseniya Sukhinova : RUSSIA }
*PHL delegate: Danielle Kirsten Muriel Castaño (replacement)* Janina Miller San Miguel (resigned)*

Supermodel of the World 2009 in MONTENEGRO: 24.01.09 { Tayane Leão : BRAZIL }
*PHL delegate: Giselle Paqueo (Top 12 SF)*

BEAUTY OF THE WORLD & MISS INT'L BEAUTY & MODEL WINNER 2009 in CHINA: 03.05.09 { April Love Jordan : PHILIPPINES }
*PHL delegate: April Love Antolo Jordan {WINNER}*

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Subject: MISS WORLD 1990

Author:
J C
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Date Posted: 15:29:33 09/20/09 Sun
(NoHost/190.232.14.3)

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Miss UNIVERSE will embark on her first foreign engagement by gracing the Formula1 SINGAPORE Grand Prix from Sept 25-27! From there she flys to Jakarta for a 10-day official visit to INDONESIA where she will crown the new 'Puteri INDONESIA' (Miss Indonesia UNIVERSE) on Friday, Oct. 9! During her stay she is also scheduled to meet the President of INDONESIA! It is still not known whether she will visit JAPAN and The PHILIPPINES during her reign! (NT) -- Alejandro Zarzuela, 17:51:16 09/20/09 Sun (ip4da8392d.direct-adsl.nl/77.168.57.45)

Subject: Mutya ng Pilipinas Tourism 2009 & Miss Philippines Intercontinental 2009, Jacqueline Schubert

Author:
moi
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Date Posted: 08:03:50 09/20/09 Sun
(adsl-99-157-26-114.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net/99.157.26.114)

Mutya ng Pilipinas Tourism 2009 & Miss Philippines Intercontinental 2009, Jacqueline Schubert, 18, 5'6"
@ Miss Intercontinental pageant in Minsk, Belarus

Subject: 2009 Miss Earth Australia, Melinda Heffernan

Author:
moi
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Date Posted: 07:55:32 09/20/09 Sun
(adsl-99-157-26-114.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net/99.157.26.114)

Melinda Heffernan, 24, 5'8"

Subject: Wendy Winner

Author:
wynne
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Date Posted: 05:43:40 09/18/09 Fri
(./66.90.73.113)

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MARIA EUSTAQUIA DIMACULATA AND WILHELMINA MERCED ARE MY IDOLS. I worship the land they walk on. Mabuhay kayo, MARIA EUSTAQUIA DIMACULATA at WILHELMINA MERCED!!!!(NT) -- Ann Marieh, BPCI, 07:15:20 01/06/09 Tue (85-18-81-128.ip.fastwebnet.it/85.18.81.128) (NT) -- , 23:07:08 09/19/09 Sat (mobile-166-217-144-208.mycingular.net/166.217.144.208)

Subject: 2009 Miss Universe Best National Costume Declare

Author:
wynne
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Date Posted: 05:41:47 09/18/09 Fri
(./66.90.73.113)

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A photo of a beauty with a purpose. Hope its not only when thiers a camera, even without, that really a beauty with a purpose. (NT) -- Ann Marieh, BPCI, 12:44:12 09/18/09 Fri (93-32-147-112.ip34.fastwebnet.it/93.32.147.112)

MARIA EUSTAQUIA DIMACULATA is my idol. I worship the land she walks on. Mabuhay ka, MARIA EUSTAQUIA DIMACULATA!!!!(NT) -- Ann Marieh, BPCI, 07:15:20 01/06/09 Tue (85-18-81-128.ip.fastwebnet.it/85.18.81.128)(NT) (NT) -- , 22:57:25 09/19/09 Sat (mobile-166-217-144-208.mycingular.net/166.217.144.208)

Subject: MISS UNIVERSE 1997 HQ

Author:
J C
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Date Posted: 10:27:32 09/17/09 Thu
(NoHost/190.232.14.3)

Subject: Article of Bianca from Freeman (Cebu)

Author:
bisaya
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Date Posted: 15:12:25 08/21/09 Fri
(c-24-34-81-76.hsd1.ma.comcast.net/24.34.81.76)

Bianca Manalo's chances in Miss Universe
PEN POINT By Ryan Mark (The Freeman) Updated August 22, 2009 12:00 AM

What are Bianca Manalo’s chances in Miss Universe? Will she be our third Miss Universe after Margie Moran-Florendo and Gloria Diaz? If you ask me, it would take a miracle and lots of prayers for that to happen. Given her assets, though, she has great chances to make it as a finalist. Still, anything can happen. Winning in Miss Universe can be a case of being in the right time at the right place—and before a right set of judges.

Why am I seeing Miriam Quiambao in Pamela Bianca Manalo? Will history finally repeat itself for the Philippines on Monday in the Bahamas as 84 beautiful women from around the globe compete for the honor to be crowned Miss Universe 2009?

The intensity, stride, smile, stage presence, charm, confidence, and look of determination on Bianca’s face, she is like Miriam in many ways during the latter’s Miss Universe stint a decade ago, wherein the dusky beauty nearly got away with the crown by being declared first runner-up.

Therefore, I am really crossing my fingers that Bianca’s name will be among those semifinalists who will be called to take center stage come big night in the Bahamas. Hopefully, the 10-year drought in our Miss Universe campaign will come to an end. By drought, I mean our failure to make it to the circle of semifinalists since Miriam’s time. That is all I’m praying that Bianca will make it to the top 15, and fight anew from there.

Anyway, I have to give credit to the Bb. Pilipinas Charities Inc. for sending Bianca to Colombia before she headed to the Bahamas. In our last column, I expressed doubts over why she had to be sent to that Latin country for polishing when lately our bets who made a detour to that side of the planet hardly improved.

In Bianca’s case, it was different. If the circulated YouTube video that shows her undergoing a medical procedure to firm up her abs is to be believed, then this only shows that we now mean business. After all, Latin countries particularly Venezuela and Colombia have long been doing that. Also in Bb. Pilipinas, there had been lot of candidates, who before joining the country’s most prestigious beauty pageant underwent surgery. It’s just that I think as a predominantly Catholic nation, we still have conservative beliefs towards self-enhancement through cosmetic surgery that we don’t quickly admit having gone under the knife.

But Bianca, based on the video, did it and that’s very interesting. And unlike the previous self-improvement sessions in Colombia wherein our candidates were forced to get a tan to make them more Asian-looking, Bianca’s natural color—smooth white skin—remains.

So what are her chances come Monday? Will she be our third Miss Universe after Margie Moran-Florendo and Gloria Diaz? It would take a miracle and lots of prayers for that to happen, if you ask me.

To say that Bianca will make it as far as top 3 is very ambitious already especially with the very strong presence of the beauties from Venezuela, Mexico and Dominican Republic. Gosh, these girls are goddesses! Nevertheless, given Bianca’s assets, I say that she has great chances to make it as a finalist. But anything is possible. Winning can be a case of being in the right time at the right place—and before a right set of judges.

If I were to enumerate her plus points, her being a flight attendant for Philippine Airlines would definitely work in her favor as she is used to working with grace under pressure. So I’m expecting that she will survive the backbreaking rehearsals and other pageant-related activities. In fact, she really did great during the preliminaries. She nailed the swimsuit competition that beauty experts from around the globe are now keeping an eye on her and declaring her as the best Asian candidate in this year’s batch of candidates.

Another advantage of Bianca is her height. Standing tall at 5’10, she will never be dwarfed by the Latinas and other giants in the pageant. And as a model for fashion czar Pitoy Moreno, it’s safe to say that she may not be the best on the ramp but you can still trust her to sizzle on the catwalk.

The third advantage is that Bianca comes from a family of beauty queens; her elder sister Kate Manalo-Hernandez was Miss World 2002 finalist, while her aunt Nini Ramos Licaros was Miss International 1968 finalist. Having such kind of family has surely helped in developing that determination and ability to shine even amidst many beautiful girls. Used to the company of beautiful and competitive women growing up, why should she feel left out in the Bahamas?

By the way, unlike our previous Miss U representatives, I never heard Bianca deliver such overconfident statements as “I’ll bring home the crown” or “I’ll be the next Miss Universe.” All I heard from Bianca was that she will do her best. She also appealed for prayers that she will do well. For that, Bianca is already a winner in my heart.

Lastly and for me the most important asset of Bianca is her strong faith in God. I once read in Ricky Lo’s column in The Philippine Star that Bianca’s a devout Catholic. She and her pilot boyfriend would hear mass every morning before going to work and would visit the adoration chapel after work. Thus, I am sure Bianca will really have a great time at Miss Universe because aside from doing her best for her family, friends, and country, she is first and foremost doing it for God’s glory. By the way, that’s another thing she has in common with Miriam—being religious. Let God’s will be done then on Monday!

Good luck, Pamela Bianca Manalo. Go, go, go Philippines!

React@banatentertainment@hotmail.com

http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=498225&publicationSubCategoryId=51

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BIANCA'S HEIGHT IS 5'11" -- JESA (OUCH), 21:55:06 08/21/09 Fri (adsl-131.93.130.info.com.ph/203.131.93.130)
Knowing what you know now, you really must feel stupid. (NT) -- Yan Lang, 08:26:22 09/17/09 Thu (NoHost/199.198.223.106)

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Author:
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Date Posted: 05:37:04 09/17/09 Thu
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Author:
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Date Posted: 22:45:06 09/16/09 Wed
(ip-174-142-104-57.static.privatedns.com/174.142.104.57)

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Subject: Updated Dvds: Mutya ng Pilipinas 2009/Miss Universe 2009/Mr Hongkong 2009/Miss Teen USA 2008

Author:
jons
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Date Posted: 04:12:36 09/14/09 Mon
(112.200.241.102.pldt.net/112.200.241.102)

Pls check out my pageant list of dvds at www.nightwing658.blogspot.com

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My contact number -- jons, 04:13:27 09/14/09 Mon (112.200.241.102.pldt.net/112.200.241.102)

Subject: MISS VENEZUELA 2009 PRELIMINARY SWIMSUITS AND AWARDS

Author:
STEFANIA MENDOZA
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Date Posted: 17:33:55 09/13/09 Sun
(190-38-60-16.dyn.dsl.cantv.net/190.38.60.16)

Subject: LOVERS IN PARIS - Trailer Premiere

Author:
chris
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Date Posted: 22:36:32 09/05/09 Sat
(112.202.228.217.pldt.net/112.202.228.217)

ABS-CBN has just released minutes ago the much awaited trailer of the Philippine remake of the hit koreanovela "Lovers in Paris".

Lovers in Paris is topbilled by mega-daughter KC Concepcion and ultimate heartthrob Piolo Pascual. They are supported by Zanjoe Marudo and Maricar Reyes.

Here are some screencaps from the trailer:

VIDEO LINK: Lovers in Paris - World Trailer Premiere

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Maricar Reyes -- Barry Asbury, 15:55:24 09/07/09 Mon (NoHost/119.111.124.194)
Sans the video brouhaha, I think Maricar Reyes would be a very good representative to the Miss Universe pageant, I am sure Donald Trump will notice her allure. (NT) -- Barry Asbury, 15:58:19 09/07/09 Mon (NoHost/119.111.124.194)
Lesbians in Paris. Who are they kidding? (NT) -- KC & PIOLA, 08:25:51 09/11/09 Fri (NoHost/119.111.140.78)

Subject: Cathy Remperas

Author:
chadwix
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Date Posted: 08:31:29 09/09/09 Wed
(122.52.153.210.pldt.net/122.52.153.210)

this is my classmate Catherine Remperas from Tagbilaran City, Bohol. Miss Bohol International 2006 First Runner up and a model. Pwede na ba isalang sa national pageants?

http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs194.snc1/6528_102520496425204_100000017631646_69133_1394404_n.jpg

http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs174.snc1/6528_102518793092041_100000017631646_69071_1528356_n.jpg

http://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs244.snc1/9135_103540929656494_100000017631646_97673_5393924_n.jpg

http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs174.snc1/6528_102817713062149_100000017631646_77338_2678293_n.jpg

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Height & Age? If shes 5"7 above then shes amazing! (NT) -- NYC Diva, 08:34:06 09/10/09 Thu (cpe-67-250-60-102.nyc.res.rr.com/67.250.60.102)

Subject: CURRENT MISS EARTH 2009 DELEGATES

Author:
mik
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Date Posted: 17:55:32 09/04/09 Fri
(adsl-76-203-238-106.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net/76.203.238.106)

Miss Earth 2009 delegates:

*Honduras – Alejandra Mendoza, Miss Honduras Belleza Nacional 2007 for Miss Earth 2008 (unable to compete @ Miss Earth 2008 d/t technicality); will now join Miss Earth 2009; 11.16.07
*Ecuador – Diana Delgado, crowned Miss Earth Ecuador 2009; 09.03.09
*Bolivia – Dominique Peltier, Miss Bolivia 2008 for Miss Universe & Miss Earth 2009; 07.18.08
*Paraguay – Carmen Valdivieso, 1st runner-up @ Miss Universe Paraguay 2009 for Miss Earth 2009; 07.10.09
*Suriname – Wynona Redmond, crowned 1st runner-up @ Miss Suriname 2009 for Miss Earth 2009; 08.28.09
*Jamaica – Jenaae Jackson, Miss Earth Jamaica 2009; 08.27.09
*Mexico – Natalia Quiñonez, Miss Earth Mexico 2009; 08.27.09
****United Kingdom - Dominique Dyer, Miss Earth Wales 2009; Kayleigh O’Reilly, Miss Earth Northern Ireland 2009; Kirsty Nichol, Miss Earth England 2009; Sarah Finlay, Miss Earth Scotland 2009 @ Miss Earth UK 2009; 08.22.09
*Canada – Lateesha Ector, Miss Earth Canada 2009; 08.22.09
*Malta – Daniela Mizzi, Miss Earth Malta 2009; 08.08.09
*Romania – Roxana Ilie, Miss Earth Romania 2009; 08.01.09
*Turks & Caicos – Alison Capron, Miss Earth Turks & Caicos 2009; 07.31.09
*United States – Amy Diaz, Miss Earth United States 2009; 07.22.09
*Spain – Alejandra Echevarria, 2nd runner-up Miss España for Miss Earth 2009; 07.18.09 (unconfirmed)
*El Salvador – Mayra Aldana, Miss Earth El Salvador @ Reinado de El Salvador 2009; 07.17.09
*Korea - Cha Ye-lin, crowned one of the (2) 1st runner-ups @ Miss Korea 2009; 07.08.09
*Puerto Rico - Dignelis Jimenez, awarded Miss Earth Puerto Rico 2009 (former Miss International Puerto Rico 2003); 06.30.09
*Pakistan - Ayesha Gilani, crowned Miss Pakistan World 2009 for Miss Earth 2009; 06.28.09
*Tahiti – Niuriki Teremate, 1st runner-up Miss Tahiti 2009; 06.27.09
*Switzerland - Graziella Rogers, Miss Earth Schweiz 2009; 06.26.09
*Georgia - Nonna Diakonidze, Miss Bikini Georgia 2008 for Miss Earth 2009; crowned last year
*Panama - Geraldine Higuera, Miss Earth Panama 2009 @ Belleza Panama 2009; 06.17.09
*Greece - Daiana Igropoulou, crowned B Star Hellas 2009 for Miss Earth 2009; 06.15.09
*France - Magalie Thierry, Miss Earth France 2009; 06.15.09
*Venezuela - Jessica Barboza, Sambil Model Miss Earth Venezuela 2009; 06.12.09
*Guam - Ma Luisa Santos, Miss Earth Guam 2009; 06.10.09
Tibet (uncomfirmed)
*Namibia - Susan van Zyl, 2nd princess Miss Namibia 2009 for Miss Earth 2009; 06.06.09
*South Africa - Chanel Grantham, Miss Earth South Africa 2009; 06.06.09
*Tanzania - Evelyn Almasi, 1st runner-up Miss Tanzania 2009 for Miss Earth 2009; 05.30.09
*Bahamas - Krystal Brown, appointed & crowned Miss Earth Bahamas 2009; Top 8 Miss Bahamas Universe 2009 (the original winner abdicated her crown); 05.24.09
*Argentina - Gisela Menossi, Miss Earth Argentina @ Belleza Argentina 2009; 05.23.09
*Hungary - Korinna Kocsis, Miss Earth Hungary 2009 @ A Kiralyno 2009; 05.21.09
*Philippines - Sandra Seifert, Miss Earth Philippines 2009; 05.10.09
*India - Shriya Kishore, Femina Miss Earth India 2009; 04.05.09
*Peru - Jessica Shialer, 1st runner-up Miss Peru Universe 2009 for Miss Earth 2009; 04.04.09
*Cook Islands - Engara Gosselin, Miss Cook Islands 2009 for Miss Earth 2009; 04.03.09 (unconfirmed)
*Slovak Republic - Lea Sindlerova, crowned 1st runner-up Miss Universe Slovak Rep 2009 for Miss Earth 2009; 03.29.09 (uncomfirmed: Denisa Mendrejova, Miss Universe Slovak Republic 2009 might be sent instead)
*Thailand - Rujinan Pansritum, 1st runner-up Miss Thailand Universe 2009 for Miss Earth 2009; 03.28.09
*Israel - Noy Michaelov, Israel's Queen of Grace 2009 @ Miss Israel 2009 for Miss Earth 2009; 03.18.09
*Iraq - Aure Arnulf, Iraq's Maiden of Beauty 2009 @ Miss Iraq 2009 for Miss Earth 2009; 03.17.09
*Czech Republic - Tereza Budkova, crowned 1st runner-up Ceska Miss 2009 or Miss Czech Republic 2009 for Miss Earth 2009; 02.28.09
*Cuba - Jamillette Gaxiola, crowned Miss Cuba 2009 for Miss Earth 2009; 02.15.09
*Kosovo (unconformed)
*Slovenia - Maja Jamnik, Miss Casino Kongo 2009 for Miss Earth 2009; 12.20.08
*Gabon - Cynthia Mboumba, 2nd runner-up Miss Gabon 2009 for Miss Earth 2009; 12.20.08
*Martinique - Pascale Nelide, Miss Earth Martinique 2009 @ Miss Martinique 2009; 11.30.08
*Brazil - Larissa Ramos, Beleza Brasil 2009 for Miss Earth 2009; 11.28.08
*Belgium - Isabel van Hoof, Miss Benelux (Belgium) 2009 for Miss Earth 2009; 10.15.08
*Netherlands - Sabrina Anijs, Miss Benelux (Netherlands) 2009 for Miss Earth 2009; 10.15.08
*Luxembourg - Theodora Banica, Miss Benelux (Luxembourg) for Miss Earth 2009; 10.15.09
*Ukraine - Olga Bilousova, Miss Earth Ukraine 2008 (unable to compete last year; unconfirmed)
*Curacao - Amada Beatrix Hernandez, 1st runner-up Miss Curacao 2007; Miss Earth Curacao 2009

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The Miss Earth pageant is getting bigger and better, wish I could write a research paper about this competition in school. (NT) -- Brady Byrne, 17:22:54 09/08/09 Tue (NoHost/119.111.124.194)

Subject: Famous Thai-British model to join "Miss Thailand World 2009"

Author:
NGrecho
[Edit]
Date Posted: 14:02:44 09/05/09 Sat
(ppp-58-10-155-122.revip2.asianet.co.th/58.10.155.122)

Name - Carla Porter
Race - Thai/British
Age - 19 years old
Height - 176cm
Profession - Model/DJ/Actress

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I was drafting my research paper when I saw her photo her. I must say that she is impressive! (NT) -- Brady Byrne, 17:20:18 09/08/09 Tue (NoHost/119.111.124.194)

Subject: FOR MISS PHILIPPINES GOWN

Author:
rj
[Edit]
Date Posted: 21:38:59 09/05/09 Sat
(ip70-173-49-164.lv.lv.cox.net/70.173.49.164)

[IMG]http://i28.tinypic.com/30hq3pj.jpg[/IMG]

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Its perfect for Pamela Bianca Manalo, Bb.Pilipinas Universe 2009, a true Miss Universe (NT) -- Ann Marieh, BPCI, 23:54:40 09/05/09 Sat (93-32-151-183.ip34.fastwebnet.it/93.32.151.183)
I believe that the girl wearing the gown is Miss Kosovo-Universe 2009 (NT) -- Karlaling Henry Sy, 22:21:29 09/07/09 Mon (NoHost/212.76.76.49)

Subject: Writers Pay Tribute to Venezuelan Beauty

Author:
Barry Asbury
[Edit]
Date Posted: 16:02:56 09/07/09 Mon
(NoHost/119.111.124.194)

The Stefania Fernandez fever is indeed far from over. Read the story.

Miss Universe

Subject: Peticion

Author:
Peticionario
[Edit]
Date Posted: 21:02:29 08/24/09 Mon
(cpe-74-77-140-220.buffalo.res.rr.com/74.77.140.220)

¡Buenas Noches!

Antes quiero darles a todos ustedes moderadores las gracias por esforzarse al prestar de su tiempo para mantener una tradición que une pueblos. Lamentablemente, fuimos testigos todos de una burla que paso de ser en algo constructivamente entretenedor a un burdo espectáculo de quinta, jugando así con el sacrificio y esmero de muchas jóvenes y familias, que sacrifican todo para cumplir un sueño.

El domingo 23 de agosto, fue una noche que marco la historia de los certámenes de belleza en el mundo, no era para menos pues el descontento de la elección de Stefania Fernández, de Venezuela, ha conmocionado a los fanáticos que a través de los años siguen fielmente el certamen de Miss Universo. No vengo a pedir insultos y mucho menos deseo la extinción del certamen, pues ya hay chicas que se están preparando desde hace mucho. Hay algo que le dolería mas a la Organización Miss Universo que el no enviar candidatas y es que su elegida no sea aceptada como tal, por eso es una idea que propongo para dar a respetar los sacrificios que hacen nuestras hijas, hermanas, primas, sobrinas, ahijadas, amigas.

Escriban a sus Directores Nacionales, y déjenle saber su sentir y descontento, además de que no inviten a la “Miss Universo 2009” a sus respectivos certámenes. Esto dejaría saber a la Organización que sus decisiones no son agradables y que se debería de hacer un proceso mas limpio, democrático y justo al elegir la nueva soberana. Fue una verdadera falta de respeto, lo que han hecho. Y nosotros los seguidores del concurso somos los que le damos vida todas las ediciones a este certamen, somos los que apoyamos a sus auspiciadores, los que compramos sus fotos y memorabilias, los que le dedicamos horas de trabajo arduo a nuestras representantes para que puedan lucir bellas y puedan darles un poquito de alegría a nuestros pueblos.

Nuevamente, escribamos a nuestros organizadores nacionales para no invitar a la “Miss Universo 2009” a sus países, y si ya lo hicieron que cancelen la invitación. Démonos a respetar, demos a respetar a nuestras representantes, nuestros y sus sacrificios.

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Pues, entendemos bien sus lamentos pero imaginese los de los Asiaticos! Ahora, desde mi punto de vista no vale la pena seguir siendo fiel a la MUO. Ya no es un certamen de belleza. Se ha convertido a un monolito que existe totalmente, exclusivamente para las blancas y las latinas. No vale la pena enviar representantes de Asia y Africa. (NT) -- KIS, 00:49:04 08/25/09 Tue (host86-178-143-37.range86-178.btcentralplus.com/86.178.143.37)
Translation in English.... -- NY VENUS, 12:39:27 08/25/09 Tue (cpe-67-250-60-102.nyc.res.rr.com/67.250.60.102)
OMG Venus wag kang maPAPEL, stop using the spanish to english generator dahil walang sense yung translation reply mo! Mapagmarunong! (NT) -- ako!, 15:30:32 08/25/09 Tue (ip72-220-121-78.sd.sd.cox.net/72.220.121.78)

Ikaw naman di ko naman sinabi na i translated that. Ginamit ko nga yung Yahoo english genrator bcoz i got intrigue what it meant?! I didnt know that you would be mad at me?I just wanted to help.Oh well bahala ka nga.Relax lang wala ka naman dapat ikagalit eh.DONT HATE~Peace tayo dahil kapwa Pinoy tayo. (NT) -- NY VENUS, 19:15:07 08/28/09 Fri (cpe-67-250-60-102.nyc.res.rr.com/67.250.60.102)
venus? -- hayun (mapapel din ako), 18:48:43 09/05/09 Sat (112.201.246.49.pldt.net/112.201.246.49)

Subject: Bakit biglang tumahimik si Ines Ligron

Author:
yung lang po bow
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Date Posted: 14:42:48 08/30/09 Sun
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Pagkatapos na tsugi at naging TY girl ang kanyang manok na si Emiri Miyasaka sa nakaraang Miss Universe, ava biglang hindi na feel mag update sa kanyang blog.

Ano ang nangyari? Feeling lonely and depresse at tutlala pa rin?

Tangappin ang katutuhanan Ines. Hindi suwerte ang inyong manok ngayong taon na to. Napsobra yata ang hype at preparations .

Mabuti pa sa sunod bawas bawasan naman ang hype at que se hudung pag yayabanag nga gnaito at ganyan.

Natahu-an na rin tayong lahat!

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Bakit kaya ikaw ay daldal ng daldal na walang kwenta? Bakit di ka na lang manahimik? Wala ka naman atang napapala sa kadadaldal na yan eh? -- Iba talaga ang walang magawa sa buhay, 02:52:42 08/31/09 Mon (NoHost/195.149.65.71)
EH ANO NAMAN KUNG WALANG MAGAWA? PINAPATULAN KASI MAS LALO KA NG GAGO. LAHAT PINAPATULAN IKAW ANG WALANG MAGAWA, TANGA. (NT) -- TANGATANGA, 06:40:05 09/01/09 Tue (sf208-121-79-24.sfgov.org/208.121.79.24)
Ines Ligron -- Armas, 06:37:23 09/04/09 Fri (n219079097239.netvigator.com/219.79.97.239)

Subject: back to back win sa MISS EARTH

Author:
Miss GALAXY
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Date Posted: 06:03:32 08/29/09 Sat
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kung nag back to back ang VENEZUELA sa MU- 2008 and 2009

at sa MISS WORLD ay SWEDEN 1951 and 1952 at INDIA noong 1999 at 2000

ABANGAN ang BACK TO BACK NA magaganap sa MISS EARTH.

2008- KARLA HENRY at 2009- SANDRA SEIFERT

itaga nyo sa bato this november mga te!

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by the waY, i forgot, the next big thing sa MU will be KOSOVO.. sa top 5 nila tong taon nato, lahat na ay nanalo VENEZUELA,PRICO,DOM REP, AUSTRALIA..and in the years to come, KOSOVO na ang papanalunin ni uncle donald (NT) -- Miss GALAXY, 06:08:47 08/29/09 Sat (122.3.55.69.pldt.net/122.3.55.69)
MALAKAS YUNG VENEZUELA EARTH THIS YEAR... BUKOD NA MAGANDA, MAGALING PA MAGSALITA. I HEARD THAT SHE IS A LAWYER, KUNG BAGA... SYA YUNG VENEZUELAN VERSION NI TERESA LICAROS.... (NT) -- llll, 20:00:46 08/30/09 Sun (124.107.160.178.pldt.net/124.107.160.178)
Miss Venezuela Earth is more beautiful than Licaros! (NT) -- Mpule, 08:11:24 08/31/09 Mon (NoHost/86.96.227.89)
Sige e-back to back niyo at tingnan natin kung marami pa bang sasali sa Miss Earth 2010. (NT) -- Gaya-gaya, puto, maya!, 08:18:17 08/31/09 Mon (NoHost/120.28.204.58)
Well if ever she(sandra seifert) deserves why not " a repeat!" (NT) -- mpule, 08:04:03 09/03/09 Thu (NoHost/86.96.227.93)

Subject: What do you guys think of this version of Asik/Tinikling?

Author:
denti
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Date Posted: 05:21:58 08/30/09 Sun
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTPy5hxSGUg

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its not tinikling but singkil, its not the same -- z (d), 21:12:36 08/30/09 Sun (NoHost/174.6.186.9)
why is the "princess" preggie? and looks like the mother of the bride? (NT) -- aber?, 07:07:29 09/01/09 Tue (cache-dtc-aa10.proxy.aol.com/205.188.116.14)

Subject: MISS UNIVERSE SHOULD CHANGE FORMAT FOR CHOOSING SEMI FINALISTS

Author:
THE BIKINI CONTEST CALLED MISS UNIVERSE
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Date Posted: 02:08:17 08/24/09 Mon
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EVERY YEAR IT IS THE SAME SET OF TOP 1O, TOP 15, TOP 5 AND WINNERS... SURE THE LATINAS ARE STRONG CANDIDATES BUT THERE IS A VERY STRONG BIAS IN MISS UNIVERSE, AND IT IS UNFAIR IF WE REALLY WANT TO CHOOSE THE BEAUTIES OF A DIVERSE WORLD. ASIANS, AND AFRICANS ARE MOSTLY OVERLOOKED...THIS YEAR HAD SO MANY STRONG ASIAN CANDIDATES BUT NONE WAS EVEN GIVEN A CHANCE. INDONESIA, VIETNAM, AND THE PHILIPPINES CAN REPLACE SWEDEN, SWITZERLAND, CROATIA ANYTIME. THE 3 ASIAN CANDIDATES' PERFORMANCES ARE WAY MORE SUPERIOR AND THAN THOSE 3 WASTE OF SPACES IN THE TOP 15.

ASIANS AND BLACKS ARE NOW BECOMING 'TOKEN' SEMI FINALISTS WITH 1 OR 2 'OK LET'S JUST HAVE THEM FOR MORE DIVERSE SET OF SEMI FINALISTS LOOK ON STAGE'. AND THIS YEAR, THEY EVEN SHAMELESSLY NOT DO THAT ANYMORE. DONALD TRUMP DOES NOT APPRECIATE ASIAN BEAUTY - HIS TASTE IS OBVIOUSLY THE EASTERN EUROPEAN TYPES, AND WHAT WAS HE DOING WITH A PEN AND A PAPER WHEN THE CONTESTANTS WERE PRESENTED TO HIM LIKE A SET OF WHORES FOR HIM TO CHOOSE?? HE NOW GETS TO CHOOSE HIS SET OF SEMIFINALISTS? SO WHAT IS THE PAGEANT AND CONTEST FOR? WHY EVEN BOTHER!

YOU THINK JAPAN'S VICTORY 2 YEARS AGO GIVES AN EXCUSE FOR THE MUO NOT TO INCLUDE ASIANS? JAPAN WINNING IN 2007 WAS ANOTHER HOAX AND A SPONSORSHIP ISSUE WITH THE MIKIMOTO CROWNS....NOTICE THAT AFTER JAPAN'S VICTORY A NEW CROWN WAS MADE AND NOW ANOTHER CROWN - NO MORE MIKIMOTO - ERGO NO MORE JAPAN IN THE FINALS.

THE MISS UNIVERSE PAGEANT HAS BECOME A 'STAGED' PRESENTATION WITH THE OWNER ALREADY HAVING CHOSEN HIS OWN SET OF WINNERS...USING AND EXPLOITING WOMEN AROUND THE WORLD TO PARTICIPATE. MUO WILL NEVER GIVE THE CROWN TO ANY ASIAN OR BLACK. YOU DO NOT STAND A CHANCE IF YOU ARE NOT COMING FROM THE LATIN, OR EUROPEAN REGIONS.

THE MOST LOVED PAGEANT IN THE WHOLE UNIVERSE HAS NOW BECOME AN AVENUE TO CHOOSE A WINNER WHO IS DEFINED BY THE STANDARDS OF SPONSORS. GONE ARE THE DAYS WHEN THE PAGEANT CHOOSES THE MOST DESERVING WINNER WHOM ALL CAN LOOK UP TO WITH RESPECT AND ADORATION. IT HAS NOW BECOME ANOTHER CHEAP BIKINI CONTEST.

IF THE MUO STILL WANTS TO KEEP PRESTIGE...THEY SHOULD CHANGE THEIR FORMAT AND CHOOSE SEMI-FINALISTS ACCORDING TO CONTINENTS FOR A FAIR SELECTION OF THE TOP 15 OR 20 ACCORDING TO THE REALITIES OF A MORE DIVERSED SKIN COLOR AND LOOK. IF NOT, THEN THERE IS NO POINT SENDING A CANDIDATE WHO WILL JUST BE ANOTHER PERSON TO FILL THE STAGE.

I HATE DONALD TRUMP.

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Let the sourgrapings begin!! (NT) -- Joey Makalintal, 04:06:42 08/24/09 Mon (user-0cdflg6.cable.mindspring.com/24.215.214.6)
In a way we maybe sourgraping but what he said was the reality.Miss Universe is a cheap exploitation pageant for the owners own agenda.Its a BS (NT) -- NYV VENUS, 06:07:26 08/24/09 Mon (cpe-67-250-60-102.nyc.res.rr.com/67.250.60.102)

Y'all would be singing a different and more complimentary tune had Bianca made it to the finals. The new Miss Universe Organization isn't your nana's Miss UO anymore so let's move on. (NT) -- Charo, 07:26:18 08/24/09 Mon (cpe-68-173-87-182.nyc.res.rr.com/68.173.87.182)

We see the same countries advance to the semifinal round yearly. But there's a simple explanation to that -- THOSE COUNTRIES SEND THE BEST DELEGATES EVERY YEAR. Countries like Venezuela, Dominican Republic, Puerto Rico, and USA have gotten their selection processes down to a science. If we (the Philippines) want to be competitive at the MU pageant, then we have to adapt to the Donald's vision of beauty; and stop sending our delegates... (NT) -- ...to Colombia for "transformation". -- APHsBnL, 08:12:33 08/24/09 Mon (NoHost/32.178.94.123)

Even the lists of Top 15 predictions of various pageant enthusiasts from all over the world during the past 10 MU pageants contained the same countries. Nearly 100% of the lists included Venezuela, Dominican Republic, Puerto Rico, the USA, Mexico, and India every year. Again, the explanation is simple: THOSE COUNTRIES HAVE BEEN CONSISTENT IN SENDING THE BEST DELEGATES TO THE MU EVERY YEAR. (NT) -- APHsBnL, 08:32:49 08/24/09 Mon (NoHost/32.178.94.123)

Seriously, have you seen a list of Top 10 or 15 predictions that did not include Venezuela over the past 10 or 20 years? (NT) -- APHsBnL, 08:35:43 08/24/09 Mon (NoHost/32.178.94.123)

ANG TAWAG DIYAN TREND. GANON TALAGA YON, PAG NAGSUNOD SUNOD NA 2 O 3 TAON NA HINDI PUMASOK ANG VENE...KITAMO DI NA YAN MASASAMA SA MGA LIST. (NT) -- SAFER SIDE, 22:40:53 08/25/09 Tue (112.202.103.8.pldt.net/112.202.103.8)

Wrong again!!! India has made the semifinal cut every year since Madhu Sapre won 2nd RU in 1992 up until 2002. But when Nikita Anand represented her country at the MU 2003, India disappeared from just about everybody's list of Top 15 predictions for that year. Up until 2002, USA survived the first round of elimination 47 times out of 50 MU cycles then. Yet, Shauntay Hinton's name appeared... (NT) -- APHsBnL, 09:30:26 08/26/09 Wed (mobilehost.internet.mymmode.com/166.203.40.153)
...only on a handful of pageant enthusiasts' lists of Top 15 predictions. Practice what you preach, honey..."TIGILAN ANG PAGTALITALINUHAN, NOT CONVINCING"...LOL (NT) -- APHsBnL, 09:31:56 08/26/09 Wed (mobilehost12788.mobile.mymmode.com/166.203.40.153)

Well, the gentleman is famous for prefering blondes. It's not to discredit him -- we all have our own preferences -- but his vision of beauty is clearly that of an Eastern European white, blue-eyed, bimboesque, Las Vegas show girl type. So, how can a Southeast Asian beauty realistically adapt to that? (NT) -- KIS, 01:28:48 08/25/09 Tue (host86-178-143-37.range86-178.btcentralplus.com/86.178.143.37)

Since Donald Trump bought MUO in 1996, only one blond, blue-eyed woman has worn the MU crown -- Jennifer Hawkins in 2004; the rest are dark brown-eyed brunettes. Also, there had only been 2 East Europeans that made it to the top 5 (i.e., Oxana Fedorova, who deservedly won in 2002, and Kosovo this year). You can add to the roster Natalie Glebova, who has Russian roots. But that puts the total to only 3 East Europeans. (NT) -- APHsBnL, 12:16:27 08/25/09 Tue (mobile-166-217-054-145.mycingular.net/166.217.54.145)

Blond, brown, brunette, mousy, blue-eyed, grey-eyed, green-eyed -- the point is, they're caucasians or "quasi-caucasians" for want of a better description. It is impossible for an Oriental to adapt to that vision of physical beauty. You can train them to westernise their presentation but you can't do anything about their slitty eyes and soft features. And statistics clearly suggest that MU doesn't do slitty eyes and soft features. (NT) -- KIS, 16:25:09 08/25/09 Tue (host86-178-143-37.range86-178.btcentralplus.com/86.178.143.37)

Why is it that when an argument is squashed, the premise changes (LOL)? Eastern Europe is a very specific geopolitical entity, and you were so sure you had a strong point. But when I disprove your theory by stating the fact that only 4 Eastern Europeans (including Canada’s Natalie Glebova)… (NT) -- , 19:17:43 08/25/09 Tue (mobilehost200000.internet.mymmode.com/166.203.8.101)

…have entered the winner's circle in the 14 MU cycles, you changed your premise to include all Caucasians and "semi-Caucasians". The reason a great majority of Caucasian delegates have advanced to the winners’ circle since The Donald bought MUO in 1996 is very simple…A GREAT MAJORITY OF CONTESTANTS HAVE BEEN CAUCASIANS. (NT) -- , 19:19:06 08/25/09 Tue (mobilehost12788.mobile.mymmode.com/166.203.8.101)

Yes, darling…it is that simple. Why would you expect Southeast Asians to dominate the MU pageant when only 10-15% of the contestants come from that region? Two out of the 14 Misses Universe under Donald Trump’s ownership had Asian Background. That’s more than 17% of the total, which is higher than their representation in the pageant. (NT) -- APHsBnL, 19:21:59 08/25/09 Tue (mobilehost.internet.mymmode.com/166.203.8.101)
So, majority rules in Miss Universe. Very well said. Since it is a question of numbers, then it follows that beauty is secondary in Planet MUO. Orientals are not only “out-beautied” by MUO’s definition of beauty but they’re also outnumbered by the Caucasians. Is there a point then in sending Asians to MU? (NT) -- KIS, 03:26:12 08/26/09 Wed (host86-178-143-37.range86-178.btcentralplus.com/86.178.143.37)

You're the one who invoked the word "STATISTICS". I merely presented you with the numerical facts. Nobody claims that majority representation rules at the MU. Those figures were presented to help you realize that Asians are not disproportionately disadvantaged at the MU -- using STATISTICS (which you invoked...LOL). (NT) -- APHsBnL, 06:41:38 08/26/09 Wed (mobilehost12788.mobile.mymmode.com/166.203.8.101)

True. It's ridiculous that you switch from one premise to another when someone torpedoes your argument. First, you argue that we must adapt to Trump’s own vision of beauty in order to win; then when someone points out the impossibility of it for SE Asian beauties, you rake out MU results that actually negate your first premise. On the one hand, you argue it’s Trump’s vision that decides it; on the other, you say it’s not, acc to MU results. (NT) -- KIS, 03:15:03 08/26/09 Wed (host86-178-143-37.range86-178.btcentralplus.com/86.178.143.37)

"...you rake out MU results that actually negate your first premise." <==<< PLEASE EXPLAIN.

Let's be real...THE EUROPEANS ROCKED AT THE MISS UNIVERSE THIS YEAR. I would have been delighted if Bianca made the cut. But the Europeans were fierce; even those who failed to make the first cut (e.g., Russia and Hungary) could have easily prevented the best Asian from entering the Top 15. (NT) -- APHsBnL, 06:57:38 08/26/09 Wed (mobilehost12788.mobile.mymmode.com/166.203.8.101)

A significant majority of the judges at Miss Earth are Asians with "slitty" eyes. Yet, how many "slitty" eyed Asians have made it to the final four since its inception in 2001? Why haven't you accused the Carousel Productions of giving an unfair advantage to Caucasians? (NT) -- APHsBnL, 19:54:37 08/25/09 Tue (mobilehost20062.internet.mymmode.com/166.203.8.101)
Let's not forget to include Miss International into the mix. Almost all the judges at that pageant have been Japanese. Yet, only 4 Southeast Asians have won since 1960...the rest are Caucasians. Are we going to accuse the Japanese organizers of unfairly favoring the Caucasians? I'm sure we would be bellyaching as well if the 4 Southeast Asian winners weren't from the Philippines. (NT) -- APHsBnL, 20:32:18 08/25/09 Tue (mobilehost12788.mobile.mymmode.com/166.203.8.101)

DT STARTED TO MANIPULATE THE RESULTS OF THE PRELIMS I THINK AFTER 99 WHEN MPULE WON, THERE WERE NEWS THAT HE WASN'T VERY HAPPY W/ IT+ THE FACT THAT MISS USA WAS NOT INCLUDED IN THE SEMI - MISS NEW YORK PA NAMAN YON. SIMULA NOON, HE HAS BEEN VERY VOCAL THAT HE ONLY WANTED 'BEAUTIFUL' CONTESTANTS TO MAKE IT, PLUS THE FACT THAT HE UNABASHEDLY STATED THAT HAWKINS IS THE MOST BEAUTIFUL MU EVER. U DONT NEED SUPERBRAINS TO UNDERSTAND THIS INSINUATION (NT) -- THE DT LIKES TALL CAUCASIAN MODELS. YUN!, 22:16:10 08/25/09 Tue (112.202.103.8.pldt.net/112.202.103.8)

Correction: 4 East Europeans including Miss Russia last year. (NT) -- APHsBnL, 12:31:58 08/25/09 Tue (mobile-166-217-054-145.mycingular.net/166.217.54.145)

SANDRA SEIFERT NA LANG SANA BAKA TYPE PA NI DADDY TRUMP! (NT) -- Maniwangtiwang, 13:16:03 08/24/09 Mon (sf208-121-77-203.sfgov.org/208.121.77.203)

JUSKO EH DI LALONG NAWALA YANG SANDRA SEIFERT NA YAN ITABI MO SA MGA LATINA MAGMUMUKHA SIYANG PANGET. SANDRA IS JUST TISAY SHE'S NOT EVEN PRETTY. TIGILAN AKO (NT) -- KUNG SI UMALI PA, 20:39:08 08/24/09 Mon (112.202.85.15.pldt.net/112.202.85.15)

AYON KUNG UMALI LALONG LIGWAK SA INGLES. (NT) -- Salamander, 13:30:03 08/25/09 Tue (sf208-121-74-112.sfgov.org/208.121.74.112)
SABI KO NAMAN BAKA MATYPE-PAN NI DONALD. HINDI KO NAMAN SINABING ITABI SA MGA LATINA. EH KAHIT NGA ITABI SA LATINA KUNG TIPIS NI DONALD ME MAGAGAWA KA PA BA? BOBA MAG-ARAL KA NGANG MAG-ANALYZE IHA! BOBA (NT) -- BOBA THE ORDER OF THE DAY (BOBITA PA RIN), 14:13:18 08/25/09 Tue (sf208-121-74-112.sfgov.org/208.121.74.112)

PAANO NGA MATYTYPAN KUNG MAGMUMUKHANG PANGET SA MGA KATABI NIYANG TIPO NI DONALD....EH NUKNUKAN KA NAMAN PALA NG KABOBOHAN. SIMPLE LOGIC WALA KA. IDIOT! (NT) -- IKAW KAYA ANG BOBO, 22:05:18 08/25/09 Tue (112.202.103.8.pldt.net/112.202.103.8)

We're just human to dream,to wish and aspire for.Who wants defeat and tragedy in our lives?! But lets not forget Ms.Bianca Manalo gave a gracious fight.A good sport and spirit.She represented well the Filipinos~At home and overseas.THANK YOU Ms.Philippines to us youre the true Queen in our hearts for this years contest. (NT) -- NY VENUS, 16:01:53 08/24/09 Mon (cpe-67-250-60-102.nyc.res.rr.com/67.250.60.102)

(NT) -- APHsBnL, 19:28:28 08/25/09 Tue (mobilehost20062.internet.mymmode.com/166.203.8.101)

Siguro kailangan natin ang isang mahusay na doctor for cosmetic surgeon. Katulad ng Venezuela, Puerto Rico, Mexico, USA, Brazil at etc. talagang go sila sa cosmetic surgeon para wagi sila. At hindi na kailangan ngayon ang BRAIN dahil puro model type na ang gusto nila. (NT) -- Mario, 17:22:05 08/24/09 Mon (ip70-173-49-164.lv.lv.cox.net/70.173.49.164)
CHANGES STARTED AFTER 99, NAIMBUDO SI DT DAHIL BACK TO BACK ANG MGA NEGRA SA MU + FIRST TIME JOINER LANG ANG BOTSWANA NANALO PA. DI PUMASOK ANG MISS USA NA MISS NEW YORK, AT PANGET DAW ANG MGA NAGING SEMI FINALISTS. (NT) -- KAYA AYAW NA NIYA NG PATALINUHAN, PAGANDAHAN LANG DAW, 22:20:49 08/25/09 Tue (112.202.103.8.pldt.net/112.202.103.8)

WRONG! Donald and MUO started to get involved in the selection of the Top 15 in 2004 when MISS UKRAINE, Oleksandra Nikolayenko, did not make the cut. Donald was very vocal about her exclusion. Oleksandra was sat right beside Donald in the audience at this year's coronation. -- Sabi mo nga: "TIGILAN ANG PAGTALITALINUHAN HA, HINDI CONVINCING" (BWAAAA HA HA HA) (NT) -- MPULE deserved the 1999 MU crown! -- APHsBnL, 06:27:52 08/26/09 Wed (mobilehost1583.mobile.mymmode.com/166.203.8.101)

NOTICE THE SIGNIFICANT CHANGE TO THE FORMAT OF MU, THE LOOK OF THE SEMI FINALISTS, AND THE MORALS OF THE ORGANISATION ITSELF. EASTERN EUROPEAN CANDIDATES WHO WERE NOT STRONG CANDIDATES B4 SUDDENLY WERE THE STRONG CONTENDERS KASI NGA NAWALAN NA NG BEARING ANG INTERVIEW NA SIYANG WEAKNESS NILA NOON (NT) -- PORN OR BIKINI MODEL YUN ANG LIKE NI DT, 22:29:00 08/25/09 Tue (112.202.103.8.pldt.net/112.202.103.8)

You claimed earlier that the great majority of those advancing to the winners’ circle (I take this to include semi-finalists) are Caucasians because the great majority of delegates are Caucasians. Hence, majority rules -- advantage and safety in numbers. Now you’re saying that nobody is claiming it to be so. Do stop this nasty habit of contradicting yourself. Please. (NT) -- KIS, 09:19:45 08/26/09 Wed (host86-178-143-37.range86-178.btcentralplus.com/86.178.143.37)

Since you invoked STATISTICS in your failed attempt to deviate from your initial premise, I would expect your responses to be consistent within the statistical framework. The citation of "large numbers" here does not, in anyway, allude to the majority rule. It refers to THE LAW OF AVERAGES OR LARGE NUMBERS. (NT) -- , 10:06:01 08/26/09 Wed (mobilehost200000.internet.mymmode.com/166.203.40.153)
I thought you would know that since you used the word STATISTICS in your response.
Here's another concept you might want to research on before you post your next response: CONTEXT. Try to stay within the context of the message, darling (LOL). (NT) -- APHsBnL, 10:09:55 08/26/09 Wed (mobilehost12788.mobile.mymmode.com/166.203.40.153)
b) in any contest, when the majority is in a position of advantage, that means that that particular majority rules. It’s as simple as that. Really, there’s no need to dig a hole for yourself and bury yourself under your own dirt in the process by getting all pseudo-academic with us. All you need to do is come up with a sensible opinion. One would do us fine. (NT) -- KIS, 12:56:29 08/26/09 Wed (host86-178-143-37.range86-178.btcentralplus.com/86.178.143.37)

That might be true if the delegates or the judges were to CAST ONE VOTE EACH to their delegate of choice. But the delegates don't vote and the judges award scores to each presentation. The means of the judges' scores determine who advances to the next round. ONCE AGAIN...THE CONCEPT OF MAJORITY RULE DOES NOT APPLY HERE. (NT) -- GET OVER YOURSELF ALREADY ! ! ! (LOL) -- APHsBnL, 17:53:52 08/26/09 Wed (mobile-166-217-166-127.mycingular.net/166.217.166.127)

Now it’s the Law of Averages. Too late, mate. You pre-empted the Law of Averages, the Law of Proportions, the Law of the Land, LA Law, Murhpy’s Law, Jude Law, ad infinitum, when you emphatically and without qualification stated that “a great majority of the contestants have been Caucasians.” You already asserted that Caucasians are the majority just by that statement, so your new argument about Law of Averages is irrelevant. Useless, really. (NT) -- KIS, 01:49:16 08/29/09 Sat (host86-178-143-37.range86-178.btcentralplus.com/86.178.143.37)
You yourself asserted that the Caucasian Majority rules at MU when you asked me not to expect Asians “to dominate” because there are just too few of them. According to you, Caucasians are the majority; Asians are the minority. The Asian minority doesn’t dominate; the Caucasian Majority does. Ergo, Majority Rules on Planet MUO. End of! (I thought it should be BEAUTY but it’s just numbers according to you.) (NT) -- KIS, 01:57:18 08/29/09 Sat (host86-178-143-37.range86-178.btcentralplus.com/86.178.143.37)

Darling...the questions are simple: If Trump prefers BLOND, BLUE-EYED EASTERN EUROPEAN WOMEN, as you claimed he does in your initial response..WHY THEN HAS THERE ONLY BEEN ONE BLOND, BLUE-EYED WINNER (Australia's Jennifer Hawkins in 2004) SINCE HE BOUGHT THE MUO IN 1996? And why has there been only 4 Eastern European delegates in the Top 5 (including Canada's Natalie Glebova in 2005) in the past 14 Miss Universe coronations? (NT) -- Stick to those questions, please (LOL). -- APHsBnL, 19:01:00 08/29/09 Sat (mobilehost.internet.mymmode.com/166.203.94.253)

And mind you that I'm giving the benefit of the doubt by separating BLOND AND BLUE-EYE FEATURES from EASTERN EUROPEAN ETHNICITY. But if you're talking about Eastern European women with blond hair and blue eyes, which I'm sure you originally meant, then there had been none under Trump's ownership of MUO. (NT) -- APHsBnL, 19:28:56 08/29/09 Sat (mobilehost1583.mobile.mymmode.com/166.203.94.253)
Yes, stick to THE questions & stop raising more questions that are irrelevant to the real issue. I'll walk you through it: de-clutter your mind first then think back to your original statement from which all our discussions originate. Now justify the assertions made and answer all the inherent questions posed by that statement by completing the ff sentence: “To be competitive, Filipinas should adapt to the Donald’s vision of beauty because….” (NT) -- KIS, 03:11:00 08/31/09 Mon (host86-178-143-37.range86-178.btcentralplus.com/86.178.143.37)
Remember that my original statement wasn’t categorical. I qualified it with the word “type” – “Eastern European … type.” You didn’t get it the first time. I clarified it. But you still didn’t get it; still don’t get it; and will never ever get it judging by your constant need for clarifications. (NT) -- KIS, 03:17:08 08/31/09 Mon (host86-178-143-37.range86-178.btcentralplus.com/86.178.143.37)

Darling...the questions are simple: If Trump prefers BLOND, BLUE-EYED EASTERN EUROPEAN WOMEN, as you claimed he does in your initial response..WHY THEN HAS THERE ONLY BEEN ONE BLOND, BLUE-EYED WINNER (Australia's Jennifer Hawkins in 2004) SINCE HE BOUGHT THE MUO IN 1996? And why has there been only 4 Eastern European delegates in the Top 5 (including Canada's Natalie Glebova in 2005) in the past 14 Miss Universe coronations? (NT) -- Stick to those questions, please (LOL). -- APHsBnL, 12:28:19 08/31/09 Mon (mobilehost20062.internet.mymmode.com/166.203.83.85)

And mind you that I'm giving the benefit of the doubt by separating BLOND AND BLUE-EYE FEATURES from EASTERN EUROPEAN ETHNICITY. But if you're talking about Eastern European women with blond hair and blue eyes, which I'm sure you originally meant, then there had been none under Trump's ownership of MUO. (NT) -- Stick to the questions, please. -- APHsBnL, 12:31:19 08/31/09 Mon (mobilehost12788.mobile.mymmode.com/166.203.83.85)

According to you, it is a "WELL-KNOWN FACT" that Donald prefers EASTERN EUROPEAN WOMEN WITH BLOND HAIR AND BLUE EYES...If that's not categorical, I don't know what is. (NT) -- APHsBnL, 12:42:16 08/31/09 Mon (mobilehost1583.mobile.mymmode.com/166.203.83.85)

Apologies. My reply was not meant for you. It's supposed to be for ABH something something. (NT) -- KIS, 09:39:08 08/26/09 Wed (host86-178-143-37.range86-178.btcentralplus.com/86.178.143.37)
You can rip pages off college textbooks until the cows come home but it doesn’t erase the fact that a) you failed to justify your very first assertion about Donald Trump’s vision of beauty when I pointed out the impossibility of Asian beauties adapting to it so you swiftly deviated from that point by arguing MU results instead; (NT) -- KIS, 12:52:24 08/26/09 Wed (host86-178-143-37.range86-178.btcentralplus.com/86.178.143.37)

YOU OBVIOUSLY MISSED THE POINT. You [theorized] that The Donald was notorious for preferring blond, blue-eyed East Europeans. Those numbers were meant to prove that the previous results of Misses Universe pageants contradict your point. Like I've said...there have only been 4 Eastern Europeans that made it to the winners' circle since Donald bought MUO in 1996. Better? (LOL) (NT) -- APHsBnL, 17:45:31 08/26/09 Wed (mobile-166-217-166-127.mycingular.net/166.217.166.127)

Eh? I stated a known fact about Trump’s personal preferences while you made automatic assertions when you emphatically stated that: “If we..want to be competitive..we have to adapt to the Donald’s vision of beauty.” You side stepped one flawed assertion after I stressed the impossibility of it & completely missed another which you expertly managed to negate yourself! LOL. You theorised, I didn’t. You missed two points, I didn’t. End of. (NT) -- KIS, 02:38:45 08/29/09 Sat (host86-178-143-37.range86-178.btcentralplus.com/86.178.143.37)

What well-known fact are you talking about? Nothing in Donald's personal life indicates preference blue-eyed blond women. His current wife, Melania Knauss, is a brunette with dark brown eyes. The woman he's often seen in public, Oleksandra Nikolayenko, is a brunette with dark brown eyes. His former wife, Marla Maples was a brunette when he married her. Where did you get this "well-known fact that Donald prefers blond women with blue eyes? (NT) -- And 13 of his 14 MUs are dark brown-eyed brunettes. APHsBnL, 00:13:02 08/30/09 Sun (mobilehost20062.internet.mymmode.com/166.203.94.253)

The question is irrelevant. Follow-on questions will remain irrelevant unless and until you have justified your original statement. (NT) -- KIS, 03:22:23 08/31/09 Mon (host86-178-143-37.range86-178.btcentralplus.com/86.178.143.37)

There's nothing to justify or qualify about my original statement. I gave no specifics because I have no clue what Donald's preferences for women were. You, on the other hand, described specifically what you thought was Donald's ideal beauty befitting a Miss Universe. Neither his love life nor his choices for Misses Universe support your THEORY. No Eastern European women with blond hair and blue eyes have made the Top 3 or 5 (NT) -- since he bought the MUO in 1996.
-- APHsBnL, 12:23:32 08/31/09 Mon (mobilehost20062.internet.mymmode.com/166.203.83.85)

You are delusional if you think Miss Fillopeenes could replace Sweden, Switzerland or Croatia. All three mop the floor up with Beeanca!! Stefania and Dayana Rocks!! (NT) -- Chick Habit, 05:27:11 08/26/09 Wed (adsl-243-196-246.cae.bellsouth.net/74.243.196.246)

Subject: MISS MÉXICO EARTH 2009!

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