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Subject: Your daughter wants to protest


Author:
Bob
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Date Posted: 09:26:17 03/31/25 Mon

Your daughter is a senior strict coed school. In the student handbook it says that all girls must wear a bra. However, in practice the school has adopted the policy of don't ask don't tell. That is, they really do not care if the female students wear a bra or not.

Recently a female student went to school without a bra, admitted it to a teacher and got detention for it. Most of the students in the school feel the detention was unfair. There is going to be a protest where, on a given day, all the girls claim they are not wearing a bra. Some will, some will not. Your daughter wants to be in the protest. She knows that she will be given detention. She is willing to accept the detention. In addition, your policy at home has been if you get punished at school you get punished at home. Your daughter does not want to be punished at home and most certainly does not want a spanking which is her typical punishment.

Your daughter comes to you and asks for permission to protest and she wants to know from you that will not spank her or punish her in any way. What do you tell your daughter?

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[> Subject: Re: Your daughter wants to protest


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Jan's Uncle to Bob
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Date Posted: 09:50:28 03/31/25 Mon

I'm obviously not JanR's father but as her uncle I can certainly tell you what my BIL would tell my niece. First of all, she better be wearing a bra. Second she would be told she is not participating in any protest. Jan already knows what is in store for her for any kind of school violation and it isn't pretty.

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[> Subject: Re: Your daughter wants to protest


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Jan's Uncle to Bob
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Date Posted: 09:50:37 03/31/25 Mon

I'm obviously not JanR's father but as her uncle I can certainly tell you what my BIL would tell my niece. First of all, she better be wearing a bra. Second she would be told she is not participating in any protest. Jan already knows what is in store for her for any kind of school violation and it isn't pretty.

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[> [> Subject: Re: Your daughter wants to protest


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Bob
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Date Posted: 19:49:12 04/01/25 Tue

I think the rule makes sense. However, I can understand why a teenage daughter would want to protest it. As such, I would let her protest. However, she must be willing to accept the school's punishment. That is, if she gets detention, or ISS, I expect her to serve it without a fuss.

I see no reason to punish her if she does not want to protest the rule.

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[> Subject: Re: Your daughter wants to protest


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Bonns
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Date Posted: 15:13:04 04/01/25 Tue

I'd punish her for not protesting. The rule is wrong, and standing up for what's right is important.

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[> Subject: Re: Your daughter wants to protest


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Dan
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Date Posted: 22:17:06 04/01/25 Tue

I would tell her tbat tbe rule requiring all girls to wear bras is fair. Many laws, like speeding, are only checked sometimes... but they are still laws, and breaking them has consequences. It would be hard for the school to check every girl every day. Is the school supposed to have "strap police" check every girl at the entrance? Society depends on people generally following the rules without 24/7 checkong and enforcement. Protest evil laws, sure. But this protest teaches that you can break reasonable rules if they are not being constantly checked. That is a terrible attitude that needs to be corrected right away.

So she'd better wear a bra to school, as required. If at school she says she didn't, beyond detention, she should receive a lengthy sound spanking at home. It should be on the bare, and frankly, I'd recommend 2 sessions with a long corner time in between. This willful planned disobedience to clear reasonable rules needs to be nipped the bud.

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[> Subject: Re: Your daughter wants to protest


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Dan
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Date Posted: 06:58:49 04/02/25 Wed

I question the premise that the school adopted the policy of "don't ask don't tell." More likely they decided to focus more effort on education, and presume students can follow basic rules without constant checks. The school clearly took the time to state the policy in the handbook and distributed the rules to the students. An authority of the school did ask, and is enforcing it.

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[> Subject: Re: Your daughter wants to protest


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Bob to Dan
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Date Posted: 07:19:01 04/02/25 Wed

In my original post, I was thinking the girl said she was not wearing one to a fellow classmate and the teacher heard her. I should have been clear.

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[> [> Subject: Re: Your daughter wants to protest


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Dan
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Date Posted: 10:52:00 04/02/25 Wed

I understand.

I think a "don't ask, don't tell" policy is written as part of the written polcy. This was true in the US Department of Defense, where this phrase comes from.

Saying a rule diesn't apply because it's not constantly being checked is silly. Constant checking should not be necessay. This seems like a perfectly reasonable rule that is clearly expressed. That should be all she needs to know.

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