Heather had some growing up to do and that's what the program is about. But also note that she couldn't break into the T5 until Oliveri & his Judge's Chair were not in charge. (Never allow a girl into T5 that you don't want to win bc with Final Ballot, they all have a shot.) -- Miss Ohio Chat

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Subject: Heather had some growing up to do and that's what the program is about. But also note that she couldn't break into the T5 until Oliveri & his Judge's Chair were not in charge. (Never allow a girl into T5 that you don't want to win bc with Final Ballot, they all have a shot.)
Author: more	[ Next Thread \| Previous Thread \| Next Message \| Previous Message ] Date Posted: 15:28:54 11/27/23 Mon In reply to: 's message, "I'm so glad Heather Wells stuck with it and won on her 6th attempt. She was great!" on 09:07:15 11/27/23 Mon [ Next Thread \| Previous Thread \| Next Message \| Previous Message ]

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[> [> [> [> Subject: The judge's chair was mixed race and word was she didn't want a black Miss Ohio bc afterwards there's the traditional photo with the judges. She didn't want the natural comparison of her complexion to a black woman showing up in the Mansfield newspaper.
Author: more [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 15:36:48 11/27/23 Mon [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> Subject: We haven't had a black Miss Ohio in 18 years under Oliveri. We haven't even had a black Miss Ohio contestant from a local in 9 years (other than Bry Atkinson who was new to OH & didn't get the memo). That judges chair killed black opportunity and representation in the state. Then Lora won and everyone realized what a scammer S.O. is.
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 15:46:58 11/27/23 Mon [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Diamond Coleman was a contestant last year and this year.
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 22:49:39 11/27/23 Mon [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: "We haven't even had a black MISS OHIO contestant FROM A LOCAL..." Diamond wasn't a Miss Ohio contestant last season, nor has she won a local to be a Miss Ohio contestant this year. Diamond and Desi competed in the virtual pageant in 2022, Stephanie bought-in last year, but none by winning a local.
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 10:05:26 11/28/23 Tue [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Didn’t Mahogany Fleming place in the top five a couple years then gave up a title after getting pregnant. She had tremendous potential!
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 14:02:19 11/30/23 Thu [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Heather and Mackenzie weren't under Oliveri. Heather's year there was Heather!, Mahogany was 3RU, & Kara Mitchell was T10 ; Kara was 1RU Mackenzie's year.
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 17:05:09 11/30/23 Thu [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Mahogany was only top 10 Heather's year. Cayla Helwarth was 3rd Runner-up.
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 22:55:33 11/30/23 Thu [ Post a Reply to This Message ]