• From the times I've spoken with Stephanie, she seems like she needs some work on her social skills with the public. Doesn't have the level of decorum required in a state titleholder. Same for Caroline Trennepohl. There's something very off about her socially. (NT) -- No name, 12:35:00 04/25/24 Thu
  • Agree about Betty…however, Stephanie seems to have learned a thing or two with regards to presence and interaction. Her social media is thoughtfully crafted, intelligent, and authentic. I would not count her out! (NT) -- No name, 23:21:06 04/27/24 Sat

• If any girl wants to win, why go to Ryan? She produces over processed girls. Oxford must have been rigged because according to Henri's all the girl who won Miss titles were her girls. (NT) -- No name, 18:56:26 04/25/24 Thu
  • You question why anyone would go to Rian, then complain all her girls win. (NT) -- No name, 21:26:30 04/25/24 Thu
• LB is a Rian girl too (NT) -- No name, 18:09:53 04/26/24 Fri
  • Who is LB? (NT) -- No name, 14:20:31 04/27/24 Sat
    • All the girls competing who has lb in her name (NT) -- No name, 18:46:48 04/27/24 Sat
      • Isn't it almost your bedtime? (NT) -- No name, 10:30:03 04/30/24 Tue

• These reasons are exactly why she won’t be Steven’s choice. He doesn’t want anyone who can contend at Miss America. (NT) -- No name, 15:02:42 04/26/24 Fri
• Are you kidding me? Olivia Fosson may be talented but is the definition of "over-processed." Her blonde hair is as fake as can be. Her style is terrible, always has been, and her speaking voice is just like nails on a chalk board. Just like the Clayland. Too pageant patty and processed. If girls like this keep winning, SO doesn't have a shot at a Miss America. Crown a girl like Marisa Matsanoff. That girl has it in the bag. She's exactly what Robin is looking for (NT) -- No name, 07:08:44 04/27/24 Sat
  • Steven Oliveri's branding throughout his entire 20 plus years has been 'Ohio' doesn't want a Miss America. Ohio wants a good Miss Ohio. Translation: Steven and the board don't want an independent, driven woman. Think... Madison. (NT) -- No name, 11:13:17 04/27/24 Sat
  • This board doesn't want a Miss America. They want a good Miss Ohio. Does MM have eligibility left after this year? (NT) -- No name, 11:13:56 04/27/24 Sat
  • as if -- No name, 12:47:52 04/28/24 Sun
  • It's clear you're grasping to find anything to hate her. Only 2% of Americas are blond, so everyone is bleaching too. (NT) -- don't recall a problem with her wardrobe & her blond hair suits her skin tone, 11:57:33 04/30/24 Tue
• I'm sorry, Olivia's fitness is not to the level of a state titleholder. None of the buy-ins are either (except Miss River Days). And Olivia placed third at Portsmouth, where Stephanie and Baylee bested her. State competitions do have more experienced judges, so the stronger girls will be recognized. She's definitely T10, but they don't let anyone in the T5 who isn't ready to go to Miss America. (NT) -- How is she the best educated? Isn't her Bachelor's in theater or music performance?, 20:17:12 05/01/24 Wed
  • you should go to hell -- No name, 21:34:57 05/01/24 Wed
    • clarification -- No name, 21:40:25 05/01/24 Wed
    • Fitness is a judged category. There isn’t anything wrong with saying “Sally isn’t strong in fitness” or “Debbie lacks the fitness to be Miss Ohio. Grow up. (NT) -- No name, 13:16:35 05/02/24 Thu
  • Olivia is very fit. Just because she’s not built like a stick does not mean that she’s not fit. She consistently talks about her eating disorder recovery and injury that debilitated her for a year and a half while recovering. People like you are exactly why pageant girls are so prone to eating disorders and don’t seek treatment. I’m proud of her for coming back after recovering and being an example of sustainable health. She also attended a top 3 musical theatre school, which produced 3 Miss Americas. Not to mention she is the ONLY contestant in law school. She is getting her JD from OSU Moritz - a top 30 law school. So I think it’s fair to say that she’s the most educated. (NT) -- No name, 21:38:05 05/01/24 Wed
    • Caroline Trenepohl and Caitlin Seifert both have Master's degrees. Until Olivia graduates they are the most educated. (NT) -- No name, 08:35:07 05/02/24 Thu

• The scoring for Interview is the same as previous years. (NT) -- No name, 14:51:51 04/27/24 Sat

• Heather Wells (NT) -- No name, 08:24:45 02/13/24 Tue
  • 11 years is FAR too long to have zero diversity. (NT) -- No name, 13:37:05 02/13/24 Tue
    • And who has competed that could take the title in the last 11 years (NT) -- No name, 16:48:49 02/13/24 Tue
• A lot to unpack here.
  #1. Attempting to shame Oliveri and the Board over the representation in Ohio won't work-- a black girl hasn't won in 19 years under them! Heather won when Steven was forced out of the ED position that year and didn't get his judge's chair, and people put it together. The black girls left, realizing they can't win. You can't send a black girl if none are competing.
  #2. Black contestants in the last 10ys: Bry Atchinson '15 who didn't get the memo & tried again in '17; Diamond Coleman & Desi Hunt in '22 as virtual contestants; '23 Stephanie Finoti as a buy-in.
  #3. Ohio River isn't a sweeps title, Olivia Fossen outright won a local. Robin is putting big pressure on the states to boost numbers, so it's not uncommon for locals to be pressured into adding another title. (NT) -- No name, 14:23:53 02/14/24 Wed
  • Southern was their third title prior. Ivy Parker won Ohio River at sweeps in 2022 and it was supposed to be a buy in/sweeps title again, but the girl didn’t end up competing in 2023. (NT) -- No name, 23:03:04 02/14/24 Wed
    • Ivy competed in 2023 as Miss Talawanda, from the Oxford pageant. (NT) -- they just make up sweeps names, 18:16:00 02/15/24 Thu
      • Reading comprehension and history clearly aren’t your strong suit dear. (NT) -- No name, 22:04:13 02/15/24 Thu
        • OMG- yOu KnOw WhO's back. Well, she does hold one record in the program- Queen of Clapping! She competed for Twenty-six local crowns and never won. All in 2 seasons. (NT) -- No name, 18:47:54 02/16/24 Fri
          • I don't think that is a record. I clearly remember someone that had to compete in 31 locals before winning a title. (NT) -- No name, 17:48:05 02/18/24 Sun

• They'll appoint as many titles as girls buy! They make money from each contestant's f&f from four nights of pageant tickets @$162 each seat and Coronation event is $35 still? So $200 for every person a contestant brings. New girl$ tend to bring in lot$ of people, excited to be competing. If only Mom, dad, sibs, GMa & Dad, BF, BFFs- That's a sweet $2,000. I'd give you a $500 discount to net $1,500+. (NT) -- Now that they have to pay Robin that franchise fee, they may discount, 19:20:48 02/16/24 Fri

• Who won? and runner ups? (NT) -- No name, 21:25:11 03/16/24 Sat

• Scoring is now 30% interview, 20/20/20% for gown, fitness, & talent, and 10% OSQ. Drop high & low (how w 3 judges?) and no final ballot. Is that right? A girl's got to fight for every point in every category. Talking is worth 40%- 30% Interview & 10%. Girls have to become more competitive, or it will always be a crap shoot with this scoring. (NT) -- No name, 23:13:08 03/16/24 Sat

Congratulations Autumn Kessler, Miss Chillicothe! (NT)

• Miss Chillicothe Scholarship Program Results
  Teen Talent - Allison Payton
  Teen Interview - Reagan Truitt
  Teen 1st Runner Up - Allison Payton
  Miss Chillicothe’s Teen - Kendall Windsor
  Miss Talent - Aliah Williamson
  Miss Interview - Diamond Coleman
  Miss 2nd Runner Up - Madison Kellough
  Miss 1st Runner Up - Aliah Williamson
  Miss Chillicothe - Autumn Kessler
  Congratulations! (NT) -- No name, 00:19:59 03/17/24 Sun

• Who won the 3 titles? (NT) -- No name, 11:32:28 03/10/24 Sun

• Chillicothe contestants are on their Facebook page (NT) -- No name, 01:45:20 03/15/24 Fri

• Contestants are either singing, speaking, or dancing (one with a paint brush, lol)-- 8 vocalists, 6 talkers, 4 tappers, 2 jazz, 1 lyrical, 1 Irish dance, 1 baton, and a speed painter. (NT) -- No name, 22:29:28 03/01/24 Fri
• Don't be surprised if Miss America's favorite and most popular and ethical state ED has tricks up his sleeve yet again. Just remember how honest the results were at GC last year (NT) -- Keep SO away from the judges at all costs, 23:13:20 03/01/24 Fri
  • Since the inception of the pageant 50+ years ago, Miss GC has always been the top title, followed by Northern Ohio, Spirit of Ohio, and any other title added on, like Lake Erie.
    Everyone understands the standard in Ohio has always been to call the RsU- the 6th place finisher is 2RU, 5th place 1RU, then the first title awarded goes to the 4th place finisher & so forth, to the top title- GC. That was until last year when SO intervened and changed up the order.
    Steven won't allow a T10 MAO contestant who went and won Miss Volunteer Ohio to win Miss Ohio. Too petty. Too insecure.
    Since any girl in T5 can win, she can't be allowed to advance beyond semis. It would be suspect for Jayleen to come off a big win at Cleveland and 2 months later not placing T5, so lil Stevie changed the titles & the public's perception of who won that day, placing Jayleen last. (NT) -- He's a manipulative little fk. AND he did it behind the Director's back! Reciepts in archives., 00:48:05 03/02/24 Sat

• Has other commitments, has friends in the pageant she's supporting, has to do her hair... (NT) -- hopefully not a dead grandma, 22:08:45 03/01/24 Fri

• She'll be giving down her Miss Greater Cleveland title this evening. (NT) -- No name, 12:08:57 03/02/24 Sat
  • It's not mandatory she pass on her crown. She could have competed again. (NT) -- No name, 18:08:30 03/02/24 Sat

• Winners yet? (NT) -- No name, 22:15:09 03/02/24 Sat
  • Talent- Rachel; OSQ Kendra; Miss Lake Erie- Laura; Miss Spirit of Ohio- Kendra; Miss Northern Ohio- Caitlyn; Miss Greater Cleveland- Lucabella. (NT) -- No name, 12:41:05 03/03/24 Sun

• Nothing surprises me..,,and totally agree about RR. Thought for sure she would secure one of the titles, following L and C! (NT) -- No name, 22:02:35 03/03/24 Sun

• Barbie is EVERYTHING this year! She reads older and I think that's where Robin's aiming. (NT) -- No name, 19:00:34 01/02/24 Tue
  • Love Paisley💗 She should have won in my opinion and has a lot to be proud of! I thought Robin would want older too, but apparently not since they chose a 14-year-old. (NT) -- No name, 12:09:14 01/14/24 Sun

• Madison's choice of opening number cocktail dress couldn't have been worse. Wrong color, not the right cut for her, and fit horribly... poor girl doesn't have an ounce of fashion sense, but that's what stylists are for. Unfortunately, Ohio still uses a 60yo woman from a small town to dress her, and it shows. (NT) -- No name, 11:51:29 01/15/24 Mon

• Anyone educated with bachelor or more and life experience would’ve done well. We sent “I’m proud to work for Stanley Steamer”. It’s laughable. Steven gave it to her for not making waves with the Lora lies. (NT) -- No name, 21:45:50 02/11/24 Sun
  • Someone finally said it! She got rewarded for her lack of actions. IYKYK! Via should’ve gotten that same reward but she was so dreadful to deal with for years on end that SO doesn't want her as his puppet. Also we all know coaches have a lot to do with it because the MM girls have not been getting rewarded. VKM is still queen bee! (NT) -- No name, 12:42:42 02/12/24 Mon
    • Who's MM? (NT) -- Who were Vicky's other girls?, 20:12:13 02/22/24 Thu
      • Matt Meade (NT) -- Emily L. worked with VKM - there’s your winner and FRU, 23:21:19 02/29/24 Thu
        • Who does Matt coach? (NT) -- No name, 22:17:53 03/01/24 Fri

• The girl could just enter Miss Ohio at-large and have Pam coach her. No need to disparage Pam and whoever wins by starting a rumor that she started a local for one girl. (NT) -- No name, 22:14:50 02/28/24 Wed

• Lovely headshots! I agree that Caitlyn's doesn't look like her and Maria's shoulder looks bigger than her face. She's not that heavy! Her face is absolutely gorgeous! (NT) -- No name, 07:53:33 09/25/23 Mon

• Likely Olivia 1st run Brittney (NT) -- No name, 10:38:08 09/24/23 Sun
• I absolutely LOVE this headshot of Autumn- and I've followed her forever. This one is feminine and shows personality. Her others were dark, stark- totally the wrong vibe. Now that I compare hers to the others, I like it best, along with Megan's. Love the uplight on her face. (NT) -- No name, 09:12:15 09/25/23 Mon
  • It looks nothing like her though (NT) -- No name, 11:13:42 09/26/23 Tue

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• Is that a 2017 sash? (NT) -- No name, 17:32:26 09/26/23 Tue
  • holy cow- it is! She absolutely needs to learn how to recreate this look! This is an entirely different girl here, compared to the rather stern look of the last few years. She's lovely here. (NT) -- No name, 19:55:39 09/26/23 Tue
    • No surprise (NT) -- No name, 07:49:59 10/01/23 Sun
      • Who won? And runner ups? (NT) -- No name, 14:08:29 10/04/23 Wed

• REPOSTED FROM CLICK-IN: The corruption of MAO has finally reached Clayland. As someone that attended, that pageant was a joke. I would be very interested in the interview results because I think some shady dealings were happening behind the scenes. You can blame a lot on a bad interview but seeing how the winner spoke on stage she should NOT have a place in the state competition. She is far out of her league. She had also better pray there are no trained dancers on the judging panel because there was no technique to be found. It was really embarrassing to watch. And a blonde hair, blue eyed girl doing a Diary of Anne Frank dance? In the year of our lord 2023? Do better. Oh also - she cannot be in Ohio State Law School as an undergrad. So she lied in her introduction. Is that something the judges are aware of? I would be interested in their response to that. (NT) -- part 2>>>, 12:23:54 10/05/23 Thu
  • part 2- However this is not all her fault. I feel bad she is being set up to fail. There is no excuse for four rookie judges at a prelim like Clayland. Through this set up Steven got exactly what he wanted - a yes woman for the next year. I was told the contestants were excited to all be on the same playing field. After seeing these results I can firmly say that was never the case. (NT) -- No name, 12:52:07 10/05/23 Thu
    • Post unapproved- link is broken (NT) -- mod, 11:18:25 10/06/23 Fri
    • Wasn’t Steven Oliveri the head judge at the Miss NC competition this year (2023)? (NT) -- No name, 21:22:34 12/06/23 Wed
    • This isn't Steven's yes woman. He already has one on deck. (NT) -- No name, 21:37:34 12/13/23 Wed
  • First and Foremost, this comment is absolutely ridiculous. Click to read my full speel -- No name, 23:13:34 10/05/23 Thu
• Then you weren't there in 2013, where we endured a woman attempting to sing. She was absolutely drop dead gorgeous, performed so confidently, had the campy overdone Miss America performance with the raised arm and the 'I captured the sun' grasp at the end, and was the worst legitimate attempt at singing I think I've ever witnessed. Could not carry a tune to save her life. My very experienced in pageants friend and I immediately wrote her off. There was no way they could send that to Miss Ohio. Well, our jaws hit the floor when they did, and we knew then. (NT) -- At state she danced, despite her never being trained. She got pts simply bc she was so beautiful on stage., 12:49:57 10/05/23 Thu
  • Her interview was incredible. I know, I judged her. (NT) -- No name, 14:37:08 01/02/24 Tue
    • Wasn't Heather Wells MO 2013? (NT) -- No name, 20:53:02 01/02/24 Tue
      • She was, but the previous poster is referring to who was crowned Miss Clayland 2014 after Miss Ohio that year and that would have been Lindsay Hanson. (NT) -- No name, 22:34:40 01/02/24 Tue
        • The gorgeous Ms Hanson: (NT) -- No name, 10:21:28 01/03/24 Wed
        • She oozed femininity and was the iconic image of the old school beauty queen. (NT) -- She should do a Mrs Pageant. They select on beauty and body., 10:30:13 01/03/24 Wed
• How would it be rigged if she’s new here/ never competed here and doesn’t even know anyone 😂 some of the contestants looks really happy for her when she won too (NT) -- No name, 23:22:09 10/05/23 Thu

• I'm so glad Heather Wells stuck with it and won on her 6th attempt. She was great! (NT) -- No name, 09:07:15 11/27/23 Mon
  • I agree!!!!! I loved Heather Wells. (NT) -- No name, 11:02:23 11/27/23 Mon
  • Agreed. She was a great Miss Ohio. (NT) -- No name, 12:07:08 11/27/23 Mon
  • Heather had some growing up to do and that's what the program is about. But also note that she couldn't break into the T5 until Oliveri & his Judge's Chair were not in charge. (Never allow a girl into T5 that you don't want to win bc with Final Ballot, they all have a shot.) (NT) -- more, 15:28:54 11/27/23 Mon
    • The judge's chair was mixed race and word was she didn't want a black Miss Ohio bc afterwards there's the traditional photo with the judges. She didn't want the natural comparison of her complexion to a black woman showing up in the Mansfield newspaper. (NT) -- more, 15:36:48 11/27/23 Mon
      • We haven't had a black Miss Ohio in 18 years under Oliveri. We haven't even had a black Miss Ohio contestant from a local in 9 years (other than Bry Atkinson who was new to OH & didn't get the memo). That judges chair killed black opportunity and representation in the state. Then Lora won and *everyone* realized what a scammer S.O. is. (NT) -- No name, 15:46:58 11/27/23 Mon
        • Diamond Coleman was a contestant last year and this year. (NT) -- No name, 22:49:39 11/27/23 Mon
          • "We haven't even had a black MISS OHIO contestant FROM A LOCAL..." Diamond wasn't a Miss Ohio contestant last season, nor has she won a local to be a Miss Ohio contestant this year. Diamond and Desi competed in the virtual pageant in 2022, Stephanie bought-in last year, but none by winning a local. (NT) -- No name, 10:05:26 11/28/23 Tue
        • Didn’t Mahogany Fleming place in the top five a couple years then gave up a title after getting pregnant. She had tremendous potential! (NT) -- No name, 14:02:19 11/30/23 Thu
          • Heather and Mackenzie weren't under Oliveri. Heather's year there was Heather!, Mahogany was 3RU, & Kara Mitchell was T10 ; Kara was 1RU Mackenzie's year. (NT) -- No name, 17:05:09 11/30/23 Thu
            • Mahogany was only top 10 Heather's year. Cayla Helwarth was 3rd Runner-up. (NT) -- No name, 22:55:33 11/30/23 Thu

• She's part of the group of 4 that's leading this. She's boldly saying she won't abide by the Constitution. And the abject lies told by all these Good Christians™ during the Issue 1 campaign. Jesus didn't preach the ends justify the means. She doesn't want to represent her constituents who just said YES to reproductive freedom; she and her ilk want to rule us, as evidenced by their completely unconstitutional bill they're introducing. Arrogant & ignorant. (NT) -- They are taught that they are superior to others bc of their religiosity, so think they know better., 09:30:05 11/14/23 Tue

• But she is! Melanie is one of the four 'leaders' saying they'll defy the Ohio Constitution. THIS is the ultimate in sour grapes. (NT) -- No name, 12:23:39 11/17/23 Fri

• It will be an open state soon (NT) -- No name, 09:22:20 10/25/23 Wed
  • It already is! (NT) -- No name, 17:27:05 10/26/23 Thu
    • How many locals are there now? (NT) -- No name, 14:50:03 10/27/23 Fri
      • FIVE- 5 open locals: North Coast, Clayland, Maple City, Portsmouth, Cleveland and Lake Fest is closed. (NT) -- No name, 11:56:06 10/28/23 Sat

• Dolly is older than god. Give her a break! (NT) -- No name, 18:56:42 10/28/23 Sat
  • All the directors are old except Portsmouth (NT) -- No name, 19:32:45 10/28/23 Sat
    • And how very nice of them to still be doing this, giving these girls great opportunities and so much more. It's a lot of money, time and work. I applaud all our "old" directors! (NT) -- No name, 13:29:09 10/29/23 Sun

• Miss Maple City is Emily Rae Legend (NT) -- No name, 11:31:30 11/09/23 Thu
• 15 girls competed 1) Allison Lawson 2) Ivy Parker 3) Piper Lambert 4) Emalee Chappa 5) Megan Riehle 6) Autumn Abdullah 7) Jasmine Roach 8) Emily Legenza 9) Lucabella LaEace 10) Diamond Coleman 11) Waylon Toczek 12) Haley Wright 13) Julia DePenti 14) Caitlin Seifert 15) Autumn Kessler (NT) -- No name, 13:31:21 11/12/23 Sun

• The Norwalk Reflection (local newspaper) had a very nice pre and post article about the pageant, like they alway do. 23 girls competed! 1stRUp was Caitlyn Sl, and 2nd Rep was LucaBella. (NT) -- No name, 09:23:23 11/12/23 Sun
• Portsmouth (NT) -- No name, 08:26:23 11/13/23 Mon
  • I predict Caitlyn or Lucabella for Portsmouth and Shawnee! (NT) -- No name, 08:41:59 11/16/23 Thu

• Who's Anna? (NT) -- No name, 19:22:39 10/28/23 Sat
• Sorry, it was a typo. It was supposed to be “and” (not Anna). (NT) -- Oops, 16:59:35 10/29/23 Sun

• You assume Mackenzie didn't win interview and that would be 50% also. (NT) -- No name, 14:51:00 09/18/23 Mon
  • Or that Mackenzie or Jacinda or Bayley... could have been one point away from her. (NT) -- No name, 12:46:07 09/20/23 Wed
• They were supposed to give an interview award on stage and never did. (NT) -- No name, 15:13:57 09/18/23 Mon
  • They do not have to give an interview award on stage, who wrote that rule (NT) -- No name, 17:19:41 09/18/23 Mon
    • That’s true but teen got one and Miss practiced that in rehearsal. Mackenzie won talent but if anyone else won interview she wouldn’t be the rightful winner. I do think she won fairly but if all other areas of competition are awarded separately then it makes sense for that to be given too. I’m more curious as to why Baylee and Jacinda didn’t do better, especially since Jacinda was their sweetheart. I hope Mackenzie builds this program up. I thought Brittany was great but their numbers went way down and there’s a pattern of only a few girls coming back. I know since it’s a new program it’s a short pattern but still they should be building numbers every year. I think Ava can go back to Sweetheart after skipping a year. She should before she retires. (NT) -- No name, 12:00:40 09/19/23 Tue
      • It never works this way, as scores are never the same across the board across all the judges, but let's pretend the award winners got 10pts from each of the 5 judges. So Ava wins ss & eg= 100 pts; Mac wins talent= 50pts.
        You say if MAC didn't win interview (& get another 50pts) that means she wouldn't be the rightful winner. Ah, but you didn't recognize that Ava competed in interview & talent as well & Mac in ss & eg. You gotta add those points too!
        What if Ava got 6-7 in interview, 6-7 in talent- btw, her performance this time wasn't as polished or energetic. It wasn't bad, but I didn't really remember it and didn't care to see it again. Mac won talent at MO, so clearly it's a solid winner. Now let's say Mac's interview was 8-9; ss 5-6, eg 7-8. See how when the other scores are added IT'S TOTALLY POSSIBLE FOR MAC TO WIN-- on points. (NT) -- more, 13:41:37 09/19/23 Tue
      • Ah, but judging is NOT done after stage competitions! ALL THE POINTS ARE THROWN OUT for the T5 and the judges are asked to rank them based on who they feel would be the best titleholder. That's where, along with the competitions, all the intangible factors add up.
        Ava shines in glamour competitions; has a good talent; and as it's been discussed here, comes off wrong in interview. Macs got the winning talent, impeccable resume, solid future, and comes off as intelligent & relatable. She's very poised & understandably put on weight during law school at Hogwarts, but that can be dealt with in the next 8 1/2 months. You can change ss & eg in that time, improve a trained talent- as demonstrated by Brittney who took her talent from meh to a good 8 in competition, but you can't make someone smart and likable or coach an untrained talent into an above average one in that time, if ever. (NT) -- No name, 13:45:27 09/19/23 Tue
      • NuMbErS wEnT wAy DoWn: from 9 to 7. (NT) -- No name, 13:51:30 09/19/23 Tue
        • From 12 to 7 (NT) -- No name, 16:41:43 09/21/23 Thu
          • Nine girls competed in 2022- Alexis Miller, Jacinda Gonzalez, Jill Schneider, Brittney Herman, Rachel Ralston, Ava Moore, Ivy Parker, Caroline Trennepohl, and Emily Fields. (NT) -- per OH Vol FB, 18:09:44 09/23/23 Sat
      • The rehearsals were closed so whomever wrote this is either a contestant or a a volunteer. Interesting (NT) -- No name, 15:34:44 09/19/23 Tue
        • Or a disgruntled parent who heard it from their daughter....... (NT) -- No name, 07:56:36 09/21/23 Thu
          • Meaning their daughter was in the room- bc clearly only an insider would know this. And I doubt volunteers would have posted this. (NT) -- No name, 10:12:25 09/21/23 Thu
• My favorite didn’t win. It must have been rigged. That’s the only answer. In fact, I think every pageant ever that hasn’t had the girl I like best has been rigged. I bet you they’ll rig it forever and they don’t believe it’s in the best interest of their program to have the girl who impressed the judges the most to win. No, instead it must be rigged. That’s the only answer. (NT) -- No name, 17:05:47 09/18/23 Mon
  • My girl questionably won. I like that she won. I don’t like to see patterns. I don’t like to be presented with alternative information that may make others question if an organization I like is fraudulent. It went my way, therefore I’m screaming bitter betty to anyone else. (NT) -- Honey, this is the state of OH remember?, 18:55:07 09/18/23 Mon
    • Oh shut up and sit down Emily. We all know it’s you who always says everything is rigged when either you or a girl you think is a friend (AMM) don’t win. You’re not sour grapes you’re just sour. Here’s the facts: you’re pretty, stupid, talentless, a backstabbing gossip and a stuck up know it all. The last ones are why you’ll never win a state title in any system anywhere, otherwise you could try USA. You don’t have the self discipline to be a state titleholder. The pageant girls you think are your friends are not. They’re just smart enough to know it’s better to have you as a fake friend than a shit starting enemy. You’re a horribly mean person who really needs to work on herself rather than posting about who didn’t deserve to win here. (NT) -- I know you or mommy will have a comeback vs a moment of self reflection, 23:39:51 09/18/23 Mon
      • I'm glad someone finally said it. She's immature, self-centered, and doesn't realize she's not as smart as she thinks she is. (NT) -- No name, 10:54:14 09/21/23 Thu
      • Emily Legenza is not as bad as you make her sound she’s actually a very sweet girl! (NT) -- No name, 16:48:04 09/21/23 Thu
        • They are talking to you Emily Fields. You are our resident shit-stirrer. The OP got it right: you don’t have the self discipline to be a state titleholder, but even if you did, you've made a name for yourself with your caustic personality. (NT) -- No name, 10:00:42 09/23/23 Sat
      • Please be advised that Legenza is not involved with volunteer. Poster is speaking of a different Emily. (NT) -- No name, 21:00:46 09/21/23 Thu
      • Maybe people shouldn’t talk bad about whichever Emily or anyone else. Talk about their pageant performance (one I don’t think even competes anymore) not badmouth them personally. Both of them have professional careers and serious relationships so I don’t think either should be smeared on a forum and neither should anyone else. It doesn’t make the girl look bad. It makes the poster look bad. As someone who has competed I’ll tell you it’s the ones that come off the best who will stab you in the back! (NT) -- No name, 21:50:34 09/21/23 Thu
        • So the girl who badmouths girls personally, asks to not be badmouthed personally. Bc badmouthing girls online makes the poster look bad- really Emily Fields? You're so close to getting it, but Dunning-Kruger strikes again. (NT) -- "The girls who 'come off best' are the REAL backstabbers"= the. worst. girl. maligns the most successful girls, 09:42:47 09/23/23 Sat
    • Here are some patterns you missed: the last two winners are very well educated- Mac has an IB in business & is an attorney, soon to be lawyer; Brittney is a practicing attorney. Both are serious, well spoken candidates, who come across as very nice, which I think they are. Brittney's Miss Congeniality award at the national pageant surely backs that up. (NT) -- You can't gain these qualities by memorizing answers to interview questions- it takes yrs of work & schooling., 12:33:04 09/19/23 Tue
      • But if that’s what Volunteer wants in a titleholder, why have the girls do a talent, swimwear, gown? If they want a girl solely because of her education and experience then I don’t understand why the title isn’t awarded based on appointment or interview alone. The system should be valuing education and interview skills EQUALLY with talent, gown, swim. (NT) -- No name, 23:12:21 09/19/23 Tue
        • But no one said that's all they want, but glam isn't all they want either! They want both. Glam can be changed in 8m's. Someone with prior legitimate training can select the right talent & polish it in that time, but you can't make someone smart. (NT) -- They score them equally to get to T5. Final Ballot is based on the total package., 13:22:24 09/20/23 Wed
          • You can be smart without law school. If you listened to the on stage questions, all of those women spoke very well and had good answers about tough questions. (NT) -- No name, 21:20:56 09/20/23 Wed
            • That could be. Even so, three hard-core years of reading & writing improves everyone's mind. All the questions were about social media, so they knew how to prepare. (NT) -- No name, 23:21:30 09/20/23 Wed

• You mentioned the last two title holders were educated; actually all three! Jaylene has a masters degree! (NT) -- No name, 21:38:32 10/26/23 Thu

• Baylee is Miss Ohio River Volunteer. I hope she’s given up on Miss Ohio because this will not go over with SO. I don’t think Madelanah would compete in ss. If Autumn aged out of Miss Ohio then maybe but I think there are girls like her, Caitlin and Emily L that will only do Miss Ohio until they win or age out. They can do it in their sleep by now. (NT) -- No name, 15:50:44 08/01/23 Tue
  • Baylee's moved on. What the MAO thinks doesn't matter. (NT) -- No name, 21:21:44 08/01/23 Tue
    • Regina must really be mad at SO to be funneling “her girls” into another system. Baylee won’t beat Mackenzie. I pray she sings something else. The gyrations at Miss Ohio were too much. (NT) -- No name, 22:46:10 08/01/23 Tue
      • It's been said here that Regina has continued her pageant and supported Steven, despite it all, to see Baylee through competing and winning Miss Ohio. Now that Baylee's moved to Volunteer, how will Regina justify sticking with Steven? (NT) -- No name, 11:23:33 08/03/23 Thu
        • That will be interesting. Also of interest to see if Charmae will continue after the whole ranking of titles that was proported as a manipulation by the state director (NT) -- No name, 20:06:07 08/05/23 Sat
          • It will be interesting if any locals happen after the new year. On the MO website it says they will have information on pay to play in January. Why would anyone do a local after that? I’m curious who of the regulars will go back to MO. I’m sure Emily L will as FRU. Not sure about Via or Caitlyn. Has Autumn aged out for the last time? I’d assume CT, Stephani and Ella will return. The stage will otherwise be filled with girls who would never in better years make it to that stage. It’s too bad that for every several vets that leave or age out only a couple of girls with promise join. Don’t we all wish we had the clappers and bus riders back? (NT) -- No name, 21:51:22 08/13/23 Sun
            • Why would anyone do a local if there's pay to play? -- competition experience, scholarships, friendships, mentoring, and prep for state. (NT) -- No name, 11:12:29 08/14/23 Mon
      • Please, Regina doesn't 'funnel' any girls anywhere, as if she could make them compete. They're grown women who make their own decisions. (NT) -- No name, 10:15:16 09/21/23 Thu

• Based strictly on photos from orientation yesterday it is Ava Margurite Moore, Jacinda Gonzales, Jill Schneider, Morgan Payne, Baylee Joy Martin and Mackenzie Perry (last 2 on zoom.) Only the last two are new to Volunteer. Five non-winners from last year not returning it seems. They went from 11 down to 6 unless there were more that weren’t there. Quite a few teens but not sure who they are. Numbers should be going up not down. More curious about why the rest didn’t return aside from Britany of course. (NT) -- T3 Prediction: Makenzie Perry, Baylee, Ava in that order, 15:52:07 08/13/23 Sun
  • volunteer -- No name, 22:29:44 09/02/23 Sat

• Me too! Congratulations Jacinda! She'll be in fine form for Volunteer coming up here in ten days on 9-16/17. (NT) -- had to check. keep forgeting it's coming up, 15:50:19 09/06/23 Wed

• No it will not be (NT) -- No name, 11:05:00 09/11/23 Mon

• Idc if it’s been since the beginning of the internet it’s obvious that the mods have likes and dislikes and they moderate that way (NT) -- No name, 23:00:28 06/27/23 Tue
  • You keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better. You're just upset that the mod won't allow you to hate on Brittney here and deletes your Bitter Betty posts. (NT) -- No name, 09:50:06 06/29/23 Thu
    • Why would anyone hate Brittney? Serious question. She is truly one of the kindest of people i know. And pageant-wise, she can interview like no other, incredibly talented and is a cheerleader for all the other contestants (and isnt a sore loser). (NT) -- No name, 07:02:40 08/04/23 Fri

• Why pull these two? (NT) -- No name, 23:48:48 06/30/23 Fri
• Who? (NT) -- No name, 14:41:38 08/20/23 Sun

• It isn’t your step-sis? (NT) -- No name, 23:48:32 06/27/23 Tue

• You need help. You can not admit when you're wrong. The definition of words are. not. subjective. Doubling down shows you're too immature to handle correction. (NT) -- No name, 09:41:15 06/29/23 Thu
• When will you get it? The girls aren't moderated differently- the problem is the posts themselves. You clearly have bias against Brittney- to the point you're angry the mods take down ugly posts about her. (NT) -- No name, 20:42:26 07/14/23 Fri

• Amen! I’ve never competed but have been a fan for 20+ years. The craziness is what keeps me hooked here. (NT) -- No name, 20:36:39 07/09/23 Sun

• Hey logomaniac, be quiet already and stop with the non sequitur arguments (NT) -- No name, 22:28:11 07/10/23 Mon
  • This poster is neither a logomaniac: abnormally talkative, nor is it a non sequitur- 'a response that is not clearly related to anything previously said', as bias was in the OP. You're trying to look smart, using big words you don't know the actual meaning of, having the nerve to tell a poster to be quiet. Sit down; you're making a fool of yourself. (NT) -- Dunning Kreuger Effect, 15:13:17 07/11/23 Tue
  • I am not a logomaniac (One who is obsessed with words) or giving out non sequitur arguments (a conclusion or statement that does not logically follow from the previous argument or statement). I am just dropping the definition of a word in the comments since apparently some people in here don't have access to Google or a dictionary. Information is key. (NT) -- No name, 23:33:57 07/15/23 Sat

• Who won? (NT) -- No name, 10:44:05 08/20/23 Sun

• I think it was Rachel Ralston but because any girl that competed in MOV and then MOA (even a preliminary) no longer had their MOV title just like CT but Jacinda is a good choice no matter her placement. Plus she already has her new 2023 MOV title. (NT) -- No name, 15:12:18 08/01/23 Tue
  • You don't know the placements of other girls. You don't know if there's a 'one MAO local' rule. You don't know if Sweetheart even cares. (NT) -- No name, 19:38:18 08/01/23 Tue
    • NP: I don’t know what MOV contract says but the MO contract (that you sign before your first local) says at the time of signing the agreement, participants can’t be titleholders in any other local, state or national competition of a similar nature so if they are signing in good faith they have to resign any other title with any other system first. If that were not true CT would be going since AMM already went to Sweetheart. (NT) -- No name, 22:37:52 08/01/23 Tue
      • The MAO rules don't matter bc it's Volunteer that's a feeder for Sweetheart. Maybe Caroline had other obligations Labor Day Weekend. (NT) -- No name, 11:15:42 08/03/23 Thu
        • They matter when you break your Volunteer contract to go to MAO. You break one to do the other: that’s the whole point of this conversation. CT isn’t as clean as you want her to be. (NT) -- No name, 07:51:34 08/04/23 Fri
          • You comically keep assuming you know all the rules and now you're projecting your thoughts about cleanliness. Bottom line, you're still not going to Sweetheart. (NT) -- No name, 18:23:56 08/04/23 Fri
            • Idk who you think you’re talking to. Unless Sweetheart has a senior division, I will not be going haha (NT) -- Cleanliness?, 20:11:34 08/04/23 Fri
              • Then why are you so hung up on 'the rules' on who does and does not qualify for Sweetheart? (NT) -- No name, 20:03:47 08/06/23 Sun

• Issues aren't limited to Ohio. Vol emerged due to Allison and her mom's struggles with Miss TN America. Vol is a nod to the pre-2.0 MAO era. As MAO reverts, both Vol and MAO lack participants in many states. They preach inclusivity, yet not all who switch are truly embraced. Some girls hop from MAO to Vol as sore losers, attempting an MAO return, which often backfires. Girls may choose Vol for direct state entry and less time commitment. Others, like Jayleen, join after aging out of MAO, then they raised the age – talk about timing! She eventually returned. These journeys are a blend of motivations and circumstances which affect how they are treated. (NT) -- No name, 16:34:57 08/12/23 Sat
  • All this is based on what? You? (NT) -- No name, 18:48:11 08/12/23 Sat
    • Please reread and if you don’t get it think. That was not opinion. It is based mostly on plain facts and then the first hand experiences of others (not my own) If you question my post then be specific on what you are questioning.

      When Baylee loses to Mackenzie Perry she won’t be greeted with open arms to go back to Miss Ohio. Maybe she will go to Sweetheart next year though. (NT) -- No name, 15:31:51 08/13/23 Sun

      • NP- I've read that word salad and "That was not opinion." is a RIDICULOUS statement-- "SOME GIRLS HOP FROM MAO TO VOL AS SORE LOSERS" = AN OPINION. -- "THEY PREACH INCLUSIVITY, YET NOT ALL WHO SWITCH ARE TRULY EMBRACED" = ANOTHER OPINION. btw- the first hand experiences of others, repeated to us, IS GOSSIP. (NT) -- "based MOSTLY on plain facts", mostly, kinda, sorta,, 19:59:16 08/13/23 Sun
        • Then you have the nerve to bash Baylee. What in the WORLD makes you think Baylee wants to return to MO? She's finally figured it out! And she could right well win Volunteer. (NT) -- You always have to put in little daggars, like we don't see you showing your ass, 20:03:14 08/13/23 Sun
          • Who is showing their ass? “Word salad” is you showing your backside and it isn’t pretty.

            No Baylee bashing intended. Mackenzie is too old to go back to MO and aside from Ava none of the other girls competed before at MO so that cow don’t moo (NT) -- No name, 20:19:39 08/13/23 Sun

            • Mackenzie is only 25, her and Ava left MO after the 2021 season and a return is very unlikely for either. (NT) -- No name, 00:31:36 08/14/23 Mon
            • Know your facts (NT) -- No name, 08:33:32 08/14/23 Mon
            • Who is showing their ass? YOU- you petty, dagger throwing bitch -- "Please reread and if you don’t get it, think," is condescending and rude AF, even with the disingenuous, please. Such arrogance to believe you can talk like that to people and not get it right back. (NT) -- Then you hypocritically get on your high horse over “Word salad”. Reread & if you don’t get it, THINK., 11:35:17 08/14/23 Mon
              • I’m sorry, it is hard not to be condescending and rude to someone who is intellectually deficient, undiscerning and intellectually inept. For example, resorting to personal attacks indicates a depletion of substantive arguments. Accusing a post of being "word salad" or labeling it a "straw man argument" suggests a constrained capacity to effectively engage in the discussion. "Using profanity is a linguistic detour that veers away from the road of constructive communication." (NT) -- Don’t just have a good day, have a great day :), 16:28:40 08/14/23 Mon
                • Glad to see you agree with me that you are condescending and rude and admit you can't control yourself emotionally over simply being questioned on the legitimacy of your post.
                  
                  You asked that if your posts are questioned, to be specific, and the NP was specific:
                  
                  “Who is showing their ass” You- with your shitty “rErEaD aNd tHiNk” & “When Baylee loses to Makenzie Perry (sHe WoN’t bE gReEtEd WiTh oPeN aRmS)” AND then in the SAME response, you DENY you just bashed Baylee!!! Remember, it's all in writing for everyone to see.
                  (NT) -- more, 12:40:14 08/15/23 Tue
                • And then you murder irony. After you PERSONALLY ATTACK a poster as 'intellectually deficient, undiscerning, and intellectually inept’ for simply asking you to defend your argument, YOU COMPLAIN about others “RESORTING TO PERSONAL ATTACKS”. And that’s a ‘false premise’ logical fallacy to boot- there were no. personal. attacks! (NT) -- more, 12:42:40 08/15/23 Tue
                • You perfectly demonstrate why you shouldn’t use AI to try to 'smarten' up' your arguments. You went from a 5th grade writing level a sentence ago, to a grad school dissertation, lol (which was a non-sequitur on top of that!).
                  
                  You again made the logical fallacy of arguing an argument not made (aka false premise)- I didn’t make any claim about a straw man.
                  
                  That you take issue with the term ‘word salad’ as a personal attack is comical.
                  
                  Then you complain about profanity, another ‘false premise’, as there is no profanity. Showing your ass’ is a well-known Southern colloquial phrase for acting in a rude, obnoxious, or aberrant manner. (NT) -- No name, 12:46:05 08/15/23 Tue
                • Finally, I realize it was the ‘substantive arguments’ against your laughable ’That was not an opinion’ claim that triggered you to attack, but if you’re going to fuck around with stupid arguments, I will help you find out how stupid they are.
                  
                  And if you fuck around and attack a poster as “intellectually deficient, undiscerning, and intellectually inept” because they called out on your bs ‘not opinion’, I’ll again help you find out, how stupid that is. (NT) -- I can't bear the arrogance of the confidently incorrect., 13:00:11 08/15/23 Tue
                • I'm sorry if I seemed blunt, but my reply was based on how you talked to me. You seem to know who I am, so I'm curious: Who do you think I am? I can make a guess about your identity, but I don't have proof, so I won't say it. (NT) -- No name, 19:13:42 08/15/23 Tue
        • Fact: Vol emerged due to Allison and her mom's struggles with Miss TN America. Vol is a nod to the pre-2.0 MAO era.

          Fact: As MAO reverts, both Vol and MAO lack participants in many states. They preach inclusivity, yet not all who switch are truly embraced.

          Types of motivation that support the last fact: Some girls hop from MAO to Vol as sore losers, attempting an MAO return, which often backfires. Girls may choose Vol for direct state entry and less time commitment. Others, like Jayleen, join after aging out of MAO, then they raised the age – talk about timing! She eventually returned.

          Fact:These journeys are a blend of motivations and circumstances which affect how they are treated. (NT) -- 90% here is gossip and supposition including your opinions, 20:35:52 08/13/23 Sun

          • Fact: you are arguing arguments not made. Didn't mention Allison, 2.0, participation, and JFC, anyone who meets the eligibility requirements can participate, is inclusivity. You're down 4. Types of motivation that support the last fact: AREN'T FACTS. They're still opinions, as I said. 5. And finally, I hope, "These journeys blah blah... affect how they are treated- assumes girls are being treated differently, without any of those pesky facts. (NT) -- mixing facts and opinons and calling it all facts = Propaganda 101., 23:46:14 08/13/23 Sun

• I can't believe that the former MA Org hasn't been sued yet for NOT PAYING scholarships due to girls who had already won them. The MAO just erased the debt??? How is that 'contractual'? (NT) -- No name, 21:09:56 08/09/23 Wed
  • Posts often mention missing scholarships, but no firsthand non-receipt cases. Unsure if true or just enduring rumor. Heard of cases where girls didn't file paperwork for scholarships. Money directly pays school bills/loans, not handed out. Must be used for educational costs. If rightful submission yields no funds, contacting state attorney general needed, as it could be fraud. MO processes scholarships quickly after getting paperwork. (NT) -- No name, 15:40:03 08/12/23 Sat
    • That's not what's being discussed here. Robin is not paying any scholarships which were previously won. All the past award winners won't get their scholarships. She also reneged on allowing scholarships to be used to pay student loans. (NT) -- No name, 19:43:19 08/13/23 Sun
      • The non-profit under Shantell’s leadership should be the one to pay those scholarships and who exactly has not received them? Also, I disagree with the no more payment of student loans but this is now the Robyn show. Private company and no board so she only answers to herself. She is going to lose more girls because they don’t want or need to go back to school but still have student debt. Unless they are just chasing the crown there is no point if you aren’t currently in school. There are work arounds that in my opinion aren’t ethical but a lot of pageants breed unethical behavior. (NT) -- No name, 20:11:40 08/13/23 Sun

• She was not the strongest, Ava was. Ava had the whole package: talented, pretty, fit and thin (as most dancers are), smart and knows what looks good on her on stage. Aside from her talent costume Brittany didn’t look good on stage. The hairpiece wasn’t blended and was frizzy and her gown looked like an Elvira. Brittany just speaks better because she’s much older and a lawyer. That’s not to say Ava isn’t well spoken. Brittany just has 5 years and a law degree on her. Sadly, for reasons I don’t understand, it seems MOV isn’t going to crown Ava. It will probably be Caroline and we will be back to hearing that mom crow on here. (NT) -- No name, 13:06:52 06/25/23 Sun
  • I have judged Ava. She comes off incredibly fake and rehearsed and unlikeable in interviews. If she can tone that down and come off like a relatable, friendly young woman, I think that will help tremendously. She has the rest! And I bet she really is a nice gal; it's just those interviews count for a lot and leave a lasting impression. (NT) -- No name, 19:31:30 06/25/23 Sun
    • How many times have you judged Ava and when was it? You seem to say the same thing about her over and over on this board, but a lot can change in a few months let alone a few years. Also, I don’t think she sounds fake. She sounds like a seasoned pageant competitor. (NT) -- No name, 20:42:52 06/25/23 Sun
      • How many times have you judged Ava in competition? You're attempting to devalue this person's experience based on criteria you haven't met yourself. (NT) -- people don't change their stripes, 12:00:58 06/26/23 Mon
    • Interview is only 25% in Volunteer. All areas of comp are equally weighted at 25% so it doesn’t count “a lot.” Even if Brittany beat her by a lot in interview she didn’t hold a candle to her in fitness, talent or evening gown. It’s ridiculous to think otherwise. At least she can’t do Volunteer again or MAO. She’d look silly in USA. Baylee posted on instagram that she went to Tennessee for Volunteer. I wonder if she will compete at MOV. (NT) -- No name, 23:23:57 06/25/23 Sun
      • OMG- listen to yourself... "All areas of comp are equally weighted at 25% so it doesn’t count “a lot". LOL. You can't have it both ways-- all are equal, but yet interview doesn't count 'a lot'. (NT) -- No name, 11:11:11 06/26/23 Mon
        • What you're missing is a girl can have an average talent and still win. She can have an average gown or fitness and still win, but if she's not capable and LIKABLE in interview, it's OVER for her. It's the one competition that affects all the others. (NT) -- No name, 11:22:54 06/26/23 Mon
          • As a judge, after interviews you're hoping that the best interviewers- the leaders, the 'winners', the standouts, can also perform on stage. They are they ones you're excited about and looking forward to watching, as they are in contention for the court and crown. But for the rest of the girls after interview, the truth is, they're out of contention. They may win talent, gown, and/or fitness, but they're not winning the title. (NT) -- No name, 11:39:17 06/26/23 Mon
          • Then what’s the point of the pageant? Call it toastmasters with a crown. If all areas are equal then theoretically a girl should be able to do great in 3 of 4 areas and still win if any one wasn’t great. And that’s clearly how MVA judged bc those that say the winner’s interview have said it was bad. Brittany was the opposite and probably did well in interview and flopped everywhere else and didn’t make the semifinals. No matter what anyone says MVA is a beauty pageant that gives out scholarships. You can be really accomplished but if you aren’t beautiful and are overweight you won’t make it to the top. (NT) -- No name, 16:27:13 06/26/23 Mon
            • All scoring is equal; all competitions are not. Bottom line- if you come off wrong in interview, you're not winning. I'm sorry this disappoints your idealism. It's why they have Final Ballot- to award, but not crown, girls who are overall not the best choice for the title, on THAT day, leaving the best woman crowned. (NT) -- No name, 17:40:00 06/26/23 Mon
            • Gurl- you don't know your history, lol. "You can be really accomplished but if you aren’t beautiful and are overweight you won’t make it to the top."-- Miss America 1921- 2017. (NT) -- No name, 17:46:13 06/26/23 Mon
      • Your thoughts in reverse: Ava doesn't hold a candle to Brittney in interview- in likability, maturity or intellect. It’s ridiculous to think otherwise. Brittney was consistent onstage and the best candidate of the bunch to send (Caroline Trennepohl was 2RU). (NT) -- ps, you're a loser, 17:54:40 06/26/23 Mon
    • I haven't judged Ava directly in competition, but I've known her for many years. I've done mock interviews with her. She comes off as a know it all. She's very smart and she's very aware of it, which is great. But the way she presents her intelligence can come off as cold and condescending. Ava can seem very fake, especially in the interview room. Its a shame, because she is a very strong competitor. She is also a sore loser, which doesn't help her case. She gets major tunnel vision and assumes she will win, and I think some of that comes out in her interviews as well, if I had to guess. (NT) -- No name, 22:33:05 07/14/23 Fri
• Brittney is a genuinely decent person who is inheriently considerate of others. She is well educated and comes off as mentally mature, personally disciplined, and solid as a person. I was delighted she won Miss Congeniality, as it reflects who she is, as seen by her *competitors*. It's fun to brag on your girl for winning talent or interview, but your girl is a true gem if she's voted Miss Congeniality. (NT) -- VERY proud of how she's represented Ohio., 10:45:25 06/26/23 Mon

• Pageants are going back to what they were. I’d rather see a dozen “over processed” Avas than another overweight or no talent girl on stage. I want to see girls that have honed their talent. Plenty of pageants don’t require talent. Find one! Don’t sing a darn Disney song either. You’re a grownup. Also, no more size 8+. If you are tall a 6 is fine but 0-4 for most girls. I don’t want to see your natural makeup or hair on stage either. Look glamorous! 2.0 is dead thank god. If anyone has SO’s ear, screen the girls that buy a title. No one wants to see girls in kitschy outfits or stringy hair. You want to compete then look like a competitor. Ted talks are gone. Bring back beauty, poise & fitness! (NT) -- No name, 00:05:34 07/01/23 Sat

• Via will need a much better talent if she wants to succeed. She has a lovely voice, but that song is not right for her. Plus she will need to glam it up a lot for Volunteer. (NT) -- No name, 17:45:00 07/09/23 Sun

• Agree (NT) -- No name, 01:53:53 06/18/23 Sun
• Via and Jayleen were very overhyped by everybody in this chat board. Don't get upset that they didn't win because they didn't deserve it. GREAT JOB MADISON, EMILY, AND BAYLEE. It was a toss up for any of those 3 to win last night. (NT) -- No name, 09:41:51 06/18/23 Sun
  • Madison did great but Bailey bombed onstage question n talent off. Via was off in areas too. I also agree Jaylene was strong had her in top 5 instead of via (NT) -- No name, 11:30:46 06/18/23 Sun
  • Very overhyped- no. Via was was a front-runner bc she was 3RU last year. Jaeleen was hyped bc she served a year as a state titleholder, competed on a national stage, has years of experience behind her, is a traveling professional presenter in her job (kinda like MA used to be), has a strong, nationally recognized platform (won $25,000 from NASCAR for the NP she's a part of), but had more energy, drive, & competence than Steven could handle. We were afraid she'd be blackballed and... (NT) -- No name, 13:54:03 06/18/23 Sun
• Via should have won. She was the most entertaining, had the best final five question, AND would place at Miss America! (NT) -- No name, 13:52:53 06/18/23 Sun
  • Not with that fluff talent (NT) -- No name, 20:01:09 06/18/23 Sun
  • Via comes off too harsh. The shorter hair doesn't help. Her talent is good enough, but nothing special- same as Baylee's & Caroline's. Via would be totally forgotten at MA. Madison will as well. (NT) -- No name, 20:05:10 06/18/23 Sun
  • place at ma? no, not even close. She's average at best. (NT) -- No name, 09:21:21 06/19/23 Mon

• Sarah won a non-finalist talent award at Miss America for that song. I have rarely seen it sung better. (NT) -- No name, 19:33:00 07/07/23 Fri

• and may I remind you all, Madison Miller, Baylee Martin, Olivia Kentner, Caitlin Seifert, Autumn Kessler, Hayley Holt, & Jaelean Davis all competed at state in 2021 and watched Lora Current crowned. If any of them are upset about tonight's results... they knew better. (NT) -- except for Jaeleen bc Vol, 15:14:53 06/17/23 Sat

• “Let’s be supportive of her” code for she’s Steven’s pick (NT) -- No name, 18:37:40 06/17/23 Sat
  • Or the judges liked her. That’s also possible. Be kind y’all!! (NT) -- No name, 19:31:37 06/17/23 Sat
    • Excuse me, you were the one who arrogantly said she deserved it, without explanation, then had the nerve to try to shame us from commenting by hiding behind 'supporting her'. You clearly don't know Ohio. They have long used 'support the girls' to smooth over their shenanigans, to put it politely. So no, we won't 'be supportive', without question. (NT) -- No name, 13:23:56 06/18/23 Sun
• Please explain why she deserved it over the others because she was very pitchy and that dress was so terrible! (I do know they shouldn’t judge on her dress but let’s be real, they judge on everything.) If Caroline wins tonight Robin should fire Steven while he’s still at the after party. (NT) -- No name, 19:05:07 06/17/23 Sat
  • Hey, someone paid a lot of money for her to get that far, and then Robin showed up! Don’t mind them, they were just trying to get the most out of their investment. (NT) -- No name, 10:10:17 06/18/23 Sun
• After watching finals last night, there is NO WAY Caroline should have won talent, especially performing before Stephanie and Emily! She was very pitchy and not a great performer. It's overdone and dull. I didn't have her in T10. (NT) -- I didn't see (or hear) whatever your unspoken reasons are for her 'deserved' win., 12:58:02 06/18/23 Sun
  • If they liked singers the win should have went to Emily opera or Jaeleen!!! (NT) -- No name, 20:50:32 06/20/23 Tue

• I respectfully disagree. (NT) -- No name, 22:08:56 06/19/23 Mon

• Betta is a very talented pianist but she would have been an even better contender had they let her age a few years. She still had such a baby face and needed to mature into her own look. With the age limit raised I think looking older is better too. Plus as far as I remember she hadn’t even gone to college yet. Madison’s chances of doing well are less than nothing. She’s cute, not pretty. She’s of average talent. She’s got an ok walk. She’s been coached by VKM for years so more of that isn’t going to help. We need new competitors in Ohio but pageants are out of date to the average person. (NT) -- No name, 18:30:08 06/20/23 Tue

• I agree, I would not want to be people’s choice. Unfortunately, everyone knows who bought their way to top 10. (NT) -- No name, 21:42:29 06/01/23 Thu

• I'm sorry, with her wardrobe, tone of voice, and stage presence, I don't see Caroline even placing. (NT) -- Can we please have some discussion beyond "insert name here" for the win??, 16:20:56 06/03/23 Sat
  • Caroline is extremely active in the community and with her CSI. She clearly has passion, I won’t count her out. (NT) -- No name, 19:04:40 06/03/23 Sat
    • Community service isn't judged as part of the competition. I think with the return to fitness, girls working their platforms isn't a significant consideration anymore. Sounds nice to the public, but won't win a girl the crown. (NT) -- No name, 17:12:00 06/07/23 Wed
      • Good thing you’re not a judge! (NT) -- No name, 01:19:29 06/09/23 Fri
        • It doesn't matter who's judging- the fact is Community Service is no longer a critical factor for winning as with 2.0 & prior. It's not part of the onstage competition anymore and there are no points awarded for it. For girls who bring that to the table, great. The judges will note it & it may be reflected in comps if they make it to Top 10 or the difference maker for Final Ballot, but if she's counting on strong CS to give her the win, she (and you) are not dealing in the current reality of the MAO. (NT) -- Look at who's won in other states so far-- Robin wants glamour, not SJWs., 11:36:14 06/09/23 Fri
          • So if community service doesn’t matter at all what will they discuss in interview….How to do a French braid? Just because it’s not a part of the onstage competition doesn’t mean it’s less important. Service is one of the points of the crown for a reason. Also glamour and community involvement are not exclusive. But you know, keep perpetuating that idea of pageants. (NT) -- No name, 14:18:56 06/09/23 Fri
            • I did not say "community service doesn’t matter at all", rather "Community Service is no longer a critical factor for winning". I also didn't argue that "glamour and community involvement are (mutually) exclusive", rather "with the return to fitness, girls working their platforms isn't a significant consideration anymore." Stop twisting my words. Arguing against what I DIDN'T say creates the false impression that these are my positions (they're not) and that you have proven my arguments false (you didn't). Finally, "Just because it’s not a part of the onstage competition doesn’t mean (CS is) less important." Uh, that's EXACTLY what it means. They took a scored part of competition and eliminated it. There was a CSI/ted talk competition for points, now there is not. (NT) -- You can insist that CS is super important, but don't be upset when reality hits on Sat, 14:37:16 06/10/23 Sat
          • You clearly don’t know enough about MAO scoring -- No name, 13:17:36 06/18/23 Sun
            • OK, so why don't you explain it to me. How many points can a contestant get for Community Service? Didn't Robin eliminate the scored Community Service Ted-talks? Did I miss a competition last night?? Are we still MA 2.0? (NT) -- No name, 19:46:54 06/18/23 Sun
              • Read my whole message next time. I already explained this- there is a 30 second CSI pitch required at the beginning of every private interview, every preliminary osq is required to be about the contestants CSI AND after the first week of State competitions Robin told the state ED’s that she missed pitch. She required them to add a descriptive CSI sentence to the osq intro’s and it’s looking likely that she will bring it back next year (NT) -- No name, 15:32:48 06/19/23 Mon
                • Learn where to post before you start sniping at people here. (NT) -- No name, 09:47:45 06/20/23 Tue
                • How do you know what Robin told the state EDs? (NT) -- No name, 15:01:00 06/20/23 Tue

• Caroline -- No name, 01:18:57 06/09/23 Fri
  • It's arrogant and assuming to say people who do not agree with your assessment of Caroline's capabilities makes them "clearly the problem". (NT) -- No name, 11:09:58 06/09/23 Fri
    • Have several seats -- No name, 14:37:45 06/09/23 Fri
      • OMG- a mama bear has found the Voy board and is on here attempting to defend, deny, & deflect *any* commentary other than her Darling Daughter is "beautiful, intelligent and clearly a contender, a strong speaker, with lots of charisma, brings something fresh to the table, and is clearly capable," and if we have the audacity to 'downplay' her Darling's capabilities, we are clearly the problem, lol. (NT) -- Hyping your girl, then dismissing anyone that doesn't agree with you, is the height of arrogance., 14:53:11 06/10/23 Sat
        • WOMP WOMP sorry to tell you I’m not her mom and I don’t need to be to see through yalls bs. You can disagree and have your own opinions. But you’re just being disrespectful. Also it’s a knee slapper that you’re calling me arrogant for speaking positively about someone while all your messages are laced in ego. I wasn’t even a fan before but now y’all got me screamin #TeamCaroline. Regardless of how she even does, I will now be rooting for her. Stay pressed. Stay frumpy. Stay bitter.You -- No name, 16:13:11 06/10/23 Sat
          • CLICK-IN for Caroline: "Caroline is beautiful, intelligent and clearly a contender. She is a strong speaker, with lots of charisma and brings something fresh to the table. Who cares if she hasn’t competed at MO, she competed at volunteer and placed high. She is clearly capable. She has every right to be confident. As every young woman in this organization should be: Not only is she active in her CSI but she has great networking skills and has made some amazing appearances. On top of all that she is a sweetheart and never has anything negative to say about anyone. if you have a problem with her or want to down play her capabilities, you’re clearly the problem." (NT) -- Post only in the subject line, newbie., 08:17:50 06/11/23 Sun
          • Funny, we can see through your bs too! No one called you arrogant for 'speaking positively'- you have a hard time resisting the straw man argument, but that you said "if you want to down play her capabilities, you’re clearly the problem". Yet here you say, "You can disagree and have your own opinions." You're nuts. (NT) -- No name, 08:26:57 06/11/23 Sun
          • And you must really think we're stupid. A newbie here, who posts in the message box, who gushes praise for Caroline, who claims they weren't a fan before but now that we've pushed back against that gushing hype, they're super rooting for her, lol. And the cherry on the top, since you started it, is your girl is the very definition of frumpy. Her interview dress was a cheap, lightweight, summer romper and her gown only came to her ankles, so we saw those hideous clunky platform shoes. Sit down! (NT) -- people think ur her mom bc only a mom would hype that hard, 08:51:04 06/11/23 Sun
      • Click in for “Have several seats” - “ Frankly, don’t care if you agree with the assessment. But the fact that you’re a grown adult sitting on your phone, discussing someone you barely know in such a negative way…that’s rather embarrassing. You would not want others talking about you or your child that way. Go breathe some fresh air and touch some grass. Use all that free time you have to talk about her and do some soul searching. Because you seem to have a lot of pent up angry feelings towards Caroline.” (NT) -- Ma’am put everything in the subject line unless it’s the start of a new thread, 17:44:21 06/10/23 Sat
  • I must disagree that Caroline's a strong speaker. She may say the right things, but it's her tone of voice. For me, it's exceptionally distracting and a game killer. Sorry. (NT) -- No name, 14:11:29 06/09/23 Fri
• And another thing. Calling her a state hopper is crazy. She worked in WA for a year and wanted to give pageants a try then moved back to OH where she’s FROM. (NT) -- No name, 01:25:48 06/09/23 Fri

T5 in no order:
Baylee*
Jaeleen*
Madison
Via*
Emily or Caitlin (depends on how well they do finals night)
*T3 but no idea who wins because Steven’s choice (NT) -- No name, 19:55:22 06/10/23 Sat

• And Jaelynn. Accidentally forgot her earlier. (NT) -- No name, 23:10:50 06/11/23 Sun

• Liking more classical talents it appears. (NT) -- No name, 22:16:58 06/15/23 Thu
• They like classical talents again this year it appears. (NT) -- No name, 22:17:45 06/15/23 Thu

• Congratulations, Madison Miller for the talent win! (NT) -- No name, 21:56:21 06/15/23 Thu
  • What did she play? Was Caitlin's talent the same? (NT) -- No name, 12:45:38 06/16/23 Fri

• what did she sing? (NT) -- No name, 22:32:22 06/16/23 Fri
  • Nothing impressive. No idea how she won. (NT) -- No name, 00:40:59 06/17/23 Sat

• Oh, that's how it will end up. Jaeleen should win but Oliveri will pick. Predictions are only for 1RU on down. (NT) -- Only 23 girls are competing., 13:05:30 06/13/23 Tue
  • Who are this year's judges? (NT) -- No name, 15:03:39 06/13/23 Tue

• This year so far, Miss New York and Miss DC are former Volunteer titleholders so the program must be helpful to crossover (NT) -- No name, 07:18:41 06/13/23 Tue
  • And that is NY & DC, where their EDs aren't so egotistical they can't handle someone succeeding outside of the MAO. Don't forget, Jaeleen was Top 9 at Miss Ohio 2 years ago. She crossed over to Volunteer. (NT) -- No name, 13:13:23 06/13/23 Tue