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Date Posted: 16:59:22 03/18/24 Mon
Author: Jeff
Subject: Re: preventing erektions with diaper boys
In reply to: Derek 's message, "Re: preventing erektions with diaper boys" on 06:54:42 03/17/24 Sun

>>Oh, I didn't understand you meant asking the bpys to
>stop >masturbating openly in front of you, vs them
>doing it >privately. I dont think its unreasonable to
>ask them to >keep it private if you wish. I'm guessing
>they only did it >in private before you put them in
>diapers. Obviously their >privacy is now under your
>control, which you mention as a >reason for playing
>with their bits after a bath. What made >you decide it
>was important part of the diaper change >routine as
>well?
>
>Hi Jeff. Well, as you mentioned, Peter and Chase are
>no longer entitled to any privacy while they are being
>punished. And to us, one of the main points of diaper
>discipline is to allow a parent to take away their
>child's genital and anal autonomy (e.g. take away
>their ability to control when they pee or poop). We
>believe that while a boy is being diaper disciplined,
>parents should have full control over his penis and
>anus, and the boy should have no privacy. This is why
>we decided that fondling our boys' bits is an
>important part of our routine. And the natural time to
>do so is during bathing and diaper changes, as this is
>when their private parts are most on display.
>
>
>>You also said raising two teenage boys is a learning
>>experience, do you feel the diapers have been a big
>reason >for that?
>
>Yes and no. My wife and I have learned a lot raising
>two boys. For example, we naively thought when they
>were younger that we could treat them almost like
>adults. But we quickly realised our mistake when their
>behavoural issues started, no doubt due to our
>overly-lax parenting. We take full responsibility, and
>are now trying to course-correct before it is too
>late. It has been a learning experience, even long
>before we started diaper discipline! Although we have
>of course learned a lot more about our boys since they
>began their punishment.
>
>>Like has changing or bathing them now felt much
>>different than when they were little?
>
>Of course! They are much bigger and harder to wash of
>course! Teenage boys smell bad at the best of times,
>even when they are not made to pee and poop
>themselves. I never thought I would be scrubbing clean
>my 15yo and 13yo sons' anuses every day, for a start.
>Emotionally, they are of course much more embarassed
>to be changed and bathed by their Mom and Dad than
>when they were little!
>
>>Has there been any other progress with their
>attitudes now?
>>Have they seemed more willing to be upfront about
>anything >bothering them?
>
>Yes, we have seen some great progress with Chase. He
>seems remorseful and wants to be better behaved in the
>future. Of course, only time will tell whether he is
>better behaved now out of choice, or because he is
>forced to be because of his diaper situation (makes it
>too embarassing to sneak out at night!). But he has
>been a lot more open with us - his fears, what upsets
>him, his school life, etc. We have been a little less
>successful with Peter. He is still quite closed off,
>and he is still resentful that we are making him wear
>and use diapers 24/7. But we hope to see some
>improvement soon.
>
>>Do they seem more eager to do activities
>>around the house (or outside) such as sports.
>
>Around the house, yes! I often find the boys playing
>ping-pong together in the garage, which is something
>they had not done together since they were very small
>(too addicted to their smartphones!). They are finding
>ways to entertain themselves in healthy ways without
>technology, which is amazing to see. Chase has gotten
>back into practicing the guitar big-time since being
>diapered, we hear him playing from his room almost
>every day. He told us during one of our one-on-one
>chats that he wrote a song about his experience being
>made to wear diapers again at 13 years old. He is too
>embarassed to play it for us yet, but we told him we
>look forward to hearing it, and that we are proud of
>him for being so open. Peter has taken up drawing. He
>has been practicing how to draw diapers for some
>self-portraits he is working towards. Both boys are
>involved in sports at school. It is tricky with their
>diapers, but they manage!
>
>>Has either felt ready to meet up with friends at all?
>
>Peter has not invited friends over yet, although we
>have allowed him to stay back after school to talk
>with his friends (we have made it clear that if he
>goes to a friend's house, his clothes must come off
>and he must stay naked except for his diaper).
>
>Chase had friends over to our house for the first time
>last week. Two boys from his class that he has known
>since he was little (I think I mentioned them to you
>before). He was anxious all week before they came, and
>almost begged us to cancel their visit. He was visibly
>shaking as he opened the front door for them and their
>Moms, standing naked in his diaper in front of them
>for the first time. But both boys greeted him with a
>hug instead of laughing or being disgusted, which is
>what he was worried about. They played basketball in
>the back yard for a few hours, before coming inside
>for food. Chase had to pee and poop while they were
>playing, so he ended up being changed in front of his
>two friends. He found it very embarassing, but the two
>boys were curious more than anything, asking me lots
>of questions about diapers and diaper punishment. Even
>still, Chase was quite upset that his two best friends
>had seen his naked private parts on full display (and
>in such a vulnerable position!). He was on the verge
>of tears, and it seemed nothing would cheer him up.
>That was, until his friends came up with a remarkable
>idea. They decided to pull down their pants in
>solidarity with Chase, so that he could see their
>naked penises and butts in return. I thought it was so
>empathetic and brave for boys their age to do that for
>Chase. It cheered Chase right up, and the boys began
>laughing about how different their private parts
>looked from each other's, comparing length and color
>and size. They also agreed that Chase's butt was the
>roundest and firmest, while Paul's was the flattest.
>It made me emotional to see Chase playing and laughing
>with his friends for the first time since he was
>diapered, and to see him so comfortable with his own
>naked body in front of his friends. Chase's friends
>removed their pants and underwear for the rest of the
>play-date, and ended up in the living room playing
>their Nintendos completely naked from the waist down.
>When they had to leave, he was begging for me to let
>them come back soon. So we have organised another
>play-date for next week!

Wow, those are some incredible recent developments. What more do you feel you've learned about the boys since putting them in diapers? It's great that Chase has become more open with you. Do you feel Peter has been less responsive to the diapers because he is older or might he still be resentful for other reasons? Maybe he would benefit from more one on one time. I gotta imagine he knows opening up like his brother has will make you more likely to see the progress you feel is needed before considering letting the diapers come off.
You said you were going to decide on whether to continue their punishment every three months. Even if you've already decided they will continue to wear diapers, maybe have a group meeting (with the option for either to talk to you privately) about the status of their diaper discipline, how satisfied with it you are and what else you might be looking for the kids to do in terms of behavior improvement.
It's great that the kids are taking up more creative activities. Do they ever help each other with their interests, like does Peter give feedback on guitar or Chase review the drawings. An original song about the experience with diapers does soung interesting and I'd love to learn more about the self portraits.
Do you think Peter's friends want him to come over sometime? I assume they know he's in diapers and know the rule about wearing nothing over them when at home. Are you close with the parents of his friends as well, do you have a plan if either goes to a friends house and needs a change while there?
That's simply heartwarming hearing about Chase's friends. The fact they gave him a hug instead of laughing shows they are good kids. It doesn't sound surprising that they had a lot of questions about diapers for you. Were they similar to what you've gone over here, were you able to answer them all?
Im glad Chase's friends were able to cheer him up after his diaper change, what a silly oddball thing to do. Hopefully this is a turning point for both boys to see they can still have fun and enjoy themselves while in diapers. It sounds like Chase is becoming less self conscious of his body overall, which I believe you had expressed as a goal before. Was Peter out when this playdate happened, does he know it turned out really well for his brother? I'm glad to hear you have another playdate already scheduled, looking forward to hearing about it.

Oh and one more thing. I'm sure by now you have switched to cloth diapers like you mentioned. But if you still have a reason to keep some disposables on hand, you could look up a brand called BetterDry. Another poster here mentioned those in the thread about changing tables so they would likely fit your boys too.

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