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Date Posted: 07:30
Author: Anonymous-31Aug02
Subject: Re: Kriya at Ananda
In reply to: Mike-31Aug02 's message, "Re: Kriya at Ananda" on 07:29

Let us turn the question around, if you will indulge me for a moment. Why, if it is not an important part of Omkar Kriyas, did Lahiri Mahasaya teach Kechari Mudra and require it for practice of Omkar Kriyas? From his written material, it is clear that he required it. His immediate disciples also required it. His sons required it. People at Sevayatan presently require it. Line of Bhattacharya requires it to this day. It's importance can not be thrown away in terms of practice related to Omkar Kriya. Omkar Kriyas were meant to speed up the process of spiritual unfoldment (for those willing to work exceptionally hard), and Kechari Mudra is an essential ingrediant..ie, one Omkar pranayam exponentially increases power of kriya in terms of resulting "After affect poise"(herein referred to as Poise). But only with right attitude, right practice, right qualifications and a Teacher who himself/herself has acheived advanced experience in their personal practice and can nurture the Student/Shishya accordingly.

My dear friend in Kriya, the difference in the experience with and without Kechari is light years apart. No intellectual articulation can prove it or explain it. I must state it as a matter of experience.
Lahiri said that since Poise is present in the very first kriya, all is possible in first kriya. Therefore, this is accepted in Kriya Circles as it was originally taught by Lahiri. He also spoke of what seem to be impossible numbers of kriya to practice in first kriya. To make the goal assessable, he taught second, third and fourth kriya, with Kechari, because the effect of the high numbers of kriya then become possible for any serious practitioner. Today some laugh when it is said that one Omkar Kriya equals the effect of many first kriya. However, Lahiri did not laugh, he taught it. If Omkar is practiced with Kechari properly, and if right preparation is accomplished, and the right instruction is given with Guru's assurance, then it is so, without question.

One more thing. "Poise" is poorly understood, I am sorry to say. Poise is not just a state of calmness after performance of Kriya. Poise is much more. It can not be put into words. Poise is such a state that it must be experienced. The Guru monitors the shishya's progress carefully and when poise is reached, then further instructions are given.

Now does all this mean that Paramhamsa Yogananda broke tradition and his kriyas dont work? I would say NO! He was more than qualified to adjust kriya for the general public. This is my opinion as well as others that i have observed here. I believe he had the blessings of his Guru, and of Babaji. So i say let each Kriya Practitioner (Kriyavan in proper Sanskrt, and Kriyaban in Bengali) take heart and practice like a crazed person his Kriya as it was given. If one has trust in their Teacher/Guru then stop this arguing, spiritual window shopping, this and that thing and Practice -If one is to learn Piano, it is better to practice from one Piano Master, at first, practice at fixed times of the day, practice a minimum time. Now doesnt this certainly apply in principle to Kriya as well?

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