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Date Posted: 22:56:41 09/10/20 Thu
Author: No name
Author Host/IP: c-73-22-71-237.hsd1.il.comcast.net / 73.22.71.237
Subject: Why does Mid-America not recognize results in other regions other than Mid-Atlantic?

I’ve always wondered why the Mid-American region only recognizes feis results from Mid-America and Mid-Atlantic but no other regions. Anyone know?

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[> I assume you mean for Oireachtas qualification. -- Inside, 11:39:32 09/11/20 Fri (cpe-65-189-55-125.cinci.res.rr.com/65.189.55.125)

The way it was explained to me, because a section of Midamerica falls in Pennsylvania, which is a Midatlantic state, it didn't seem fair to these dancers to deny the dancers in that section of PA opportunities to compete in nearby feiseanna in their state for Oireachtas qualification. There may be other reasons, but that is the one that was explained to me when my daughter still had to "qualify" for the Oireachtas (she is OC now). I believe Pennsylvania is the only state that is split between two regions.

As far as moving up levels at feiseanna, all regions are allowed for advancement. If Novice level dancer receives a first-place at a Texas feis, for example, it counts for movement to Prizewinner.

I hope this helps.


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[> True Answer: The teachers in Mid-America felt the standard in the other regions was not the same (lower) than the standard in the Mid-America or Mid-Atlantic. That is the real reason. They thought it would be easy to meet the qualifications in the Southern Region or Western Region and they didn't want that to happen -- More inside, 14:57:56 09/11/20 Fri (NoHost/12.234.85.10)

Now some will share some BS that they wanted dancers to support the Mid-American Feises but that just doesn't hold water when they also opened it up to Mid-Atlantic Region. The Mid-America teachers always felt that they were superior to the other regions which lead to rules like this, and others like the short-lived "go-alone" costume fiasco that actually cost more money to parents.


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[> [> That's what I used to be told by other parents when my DD was in grades, but was told otherwise by TCRG. When you think about it, that reason doesn't hold water. Our regions are competitive, but there are "easy" feises in these two regions as well as others and there are tough feises in all regions. The other regions seem to be getting more and more competitive. The parents have been floating this "reason" around for years, but it isn't the reason. -- Dance Mom, 15:40:32 09/11/20 Fri (cpe-65-189-55-125.cinci.res.rr.com/65.189.55.125)


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[> [> [> I’m with you. I’ve always been told the same thing, but the geography reason makes more sense. -- But, people will believe what they want, 21:40:40 09/11/20 Fri (75-168-201-143.mpls.qwest.net/75.168.201.143)


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[> [> [> [> You are so right. People can believe what they want. The fact is, our region limits qualifications to be from two regions. There are so many to choose from, so for most, shouldn't be an issue. I think it would be nice for the region to have an exception for the folks in the far Western states in our region where there are less opportunities. Maybe allow West US feiseanna. -- But it's not up to me, alas, 14:39:28 09/12/20 Sat (cpe-65-189-55-125.cinci.res.rr.com/65.189.55.125)


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[> [> [> Yes. It’s the reason. Of course, this rule has been around for years, and things change. But the original vote was based on this. -- ., 21:03:57 09/16/20 Wed (NoHost/172.58.59.243)


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[> [> I would believe this—all levels of WR feisanna (In Utah for example) are often much smaller and usually don’t have many dancers from out of state (mostly UT, some ID or WY, few CO) and the more competitive schools/top region dancers don’t usually attend. -- Utah dancer, 02:50:00 09/14/20 Mon (NoHost/136.36.34.147)


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[> I thought it was because PA was split into two regions? More inside -- No name, 12:00:19 09/14/20 Mon (dynamic-acs-24-101-120-55.zoominternet.net/24.101.120.55)

Burke was then in two regions before Western PA became mid Atlantic so they split the state in half but being able to qualify in each was middle ground?


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[> [> That's the BS reason that TCRGs want to fall back on - but the real reason was that they felt the Mid-America and Mid-Atlantic Region were superior to the other regions and they didn't want to use qualifications from an "easy" Feis to move up. -- Short-sighted but true., 15:19:24 09/14/20 Mon (d47-69-47-72.try.wideopenwest.com/69.47.72.47)


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[> [> [> I understood it that they can use other regions to move up levels but to qualify for Oireachtas, it must be in MidAm or MidAtl. -- No name, 21:31:54 09/14/20 Mon (99-117-170-28.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net/99.117.170.28)


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[> [> [> [> You are correct. People fly all over looking for easy or small feis to move up. But to qualify for O’s it has to be in MidAm or MidAltantic. -- No name, 11:16:06 09/15/20 Tue (mobile-107-77-208-149.mobile.att.net/107.77.208.149)


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