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Date Posted: 07:12:42 02/04/04 Wed
Author: Pouncer
Author Host/IP: 199.114.61.82
Subject: A friend made the point
In reply to: Delirium 's message, "Okay, so this is the funniest thing..." on 19:41:40 02/03/04 Tue

That she wasn't so much offended by the breast (although she did think it inappropriate for "family entertainment" hours) as by the implied violence of the performance, specifically the message that tearing women's clothes off was a good thing.

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[> You know... -- Kuzibah, 08:59:06 02/04/04 Wed (12.175.117.195)

I think a bare breast was one of the less offensive moments of the broadcast. For instance, it offended me that they exploited the anniversary of the Columbia tragedy in such a schmaltzy and cheezy way (seriously, a fake astronaut on a fake moon? Give me a break.) I was offended by Nelly's crotch-grabbing. I was offended that P. Diddy and Kid Rock sanitised their lyrics (look, MTV, you hired them. If you didn't want them in all their misogyistic, violent, foul-mouthed glory, why didn't you hire Moby or somebody?) I was offended that Kid Rock literally wrapped himself in the flag, and turned his "Pimp Anthem" (a song I have to admit I kind of like) into a redneck jingo-fest. I was offended by the bumping and grinding. I was offended by the appropriation of 'A Clockwork Orange' as a light entertainment. I was offended by the half-naked dancers on the fetish-gear, like harnesses and collars are acceptable street-wear.

I was offended that CBS refused to air an ad that criticized the Bush administration and an ad from PETA under the guise of "non-issue" commercials only, and then proceeded to air multiple ads for Partnership for a Drug-Free America, Truth.com, and other "issues." I guess conservative issues aren't really issues. Hypocrites.

I was offended that on a show supposedly watched by millions of innocent children, it was deemed acceptable to run ads for three different impotence drugs, and approximately half of the ads were for the number-one "gateway drug" in America: beer. Not only that, but several beer ads featured vulgar "humor" and sexual innuendo.

A flashed breast is just the latest natural progression of a four-decade long exercise in excess and bad taste. As a columnist for the Washington Post said yesterday, the NFL had it coming.


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[> [> Love everyone's thoughts on this, especially yours Kuzibah... -- Delirium, 11:57:54 02/05/04 Thu (68.122.21.113)

Thank god we're such a wise and learned bunch. ;)

Here's a corollary article on the hubbub:

Forget Nipplegate, Prepare for Ponchogate

http://tv.zap2it.com/tveditorial/tve_main/1,1002,271|86169|1|,00.html

I don't think the media will pick up too much on this one, since they're all too busy going. "Did she show a boob? *Gasp* I can't look. Wait, this means we have a legitimate excuse to talk about boobs, boobs, boobs...."

-Del


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[> [> [> Oh, for crying out loud.... -- Delirium, 12:05:15 02/05/04 Thu (68.122.21.113)

this is ridiculous:

Nervous NBC edits 'ER' breast shot
LOS ANGELES, California (AP) -- Janet Jackson's revealing Super Bowl halftime moment has created fallout for "ER," with NBC removing a glimpse of an elderly patient's breast in Thursday's episode.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/SHOWBIZ/TV/02/05/tv.er.breast.ap/index.html

Makes me think of Cartman jokingly exclaiming "That movie has warped my fragile little mind!". This incident has "warped their [network execs and a few others] fragile little minds", except they aren't joking.

-Del


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