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Date Posted: 13:45:51 09/04/24 Wed
Author: Very sorry!!
Subject: Would you consider sharing some of those warning signs that you missed while you were a dancer? You could really help some families if you could share this information.
In reply to: Just an idea 's message, "Safesport- I wish teenage dancers had to do the safesport course as well, I didn’t know I was being groomed and abused until I was done with Irish dance. I had to do the same course for a coaching position and it made me sick realizing what my teacher (an ADCRG) did, literally broke all the rules." on 14:28:23 09/03/24 Tue

I'm very sorry you went through this. This in no way excuses abusive behavior, but the reason so many TCs are so skilled at passing abusive behavior as normal is because they lived through it themselves and either didn't recognize it as abuse or thought it was justified for results.

There is a long, long culture of abuse in Irish dance. The "big split" that occurred in the late 1960s caused the TCs who remained with CLRG to push their dancers to the limits to prove that they were the "true" Irish dancing organization. Many teachers were absolutely evil in their treatment of dancers especially when the CLRG World Championship was established in 1970 and more was at stake. Many of these dancers grew up to be the TCs we have now and they have chosen to maintain the status quo.

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Maybe asking an abuse victim to relive their experience is not the best way to learn about red flags? -- Contact SafeSport/ask your TC, 18:57:03 09/05/24 Thu
- So one of your ideas is to reach out to the very people who could be perpetuating abuse? Reach out to your TC?? Really??? (NT) -- Stick with asking SafeSport, 20:22:08 09/05/24 Thu
  - Not all TCs are abusers or cheaters. (NT) -- NT, 06:16:42 09/06/24 Fri
    - They are not. But they often don't believe their is abuse from a colleague -- No name, 23:51:20 09/09/24 Mon
      - In the USA they are mandatory reporters, aren't they? (NT) -- ?, 13:47:31 09/10/24 Tue
Your insight about CLRG when the split happened makes a lot of sense. -- More inside, 15:58:55 09/06/24 Fri
- CLRGs relationship with Safesport is strictly just advertising they use their materials. It is not the same relationship other organizations have where Safesport maintains lists of those who have had reports against them and were found guilty. All they can do with a report is refer it back to CLRG. (NT) -- ..., 16:45:42 09/06/24 Fri
- This and the OP are spot on. Many types of abuse in ID and children are the ones who need the training... -- No name, 00:40:09 09/10/24 Tue
  - They should not be able to advertise they participate in Safesport when there are no repercussions for not following it. Gives a very false sense that things are secure for kids. All that has to be done is watch some training, doesn't mean it's followed. (NT) -- !, 04:06:12 09/10/24 Tue
  - Yes, children need to be trained to recognize red flags, but... -- Mom, 13:53:27 09/10/24 Tue

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