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Date Posted: 16:56:46 04/13/05 Wed
Author: elia
Subject: Re: hum... i don't understand the point here
In reply to: PECAS 's message, "Re: hum... i don't understand the point here" on 13:26:19 04/13/05 Wed

>Problems within churches are the business of all of
>the members. The abuse by UBF leaders are not just
>personal disputes between individuals.
why are you all thinking that all the problems are church problems? here they're PERSONAL problems between certain members. they don't have anything to do with manipulating leaders. if this was concerning "abuse", i never would write, that this none of my business.

>Christian brothers and sisters should help each other
>with problems.
your're absolutely right and i agree with you! but there are situations where so called "brothers" or "sisters" DON'T want to be helped at all.

>In UBF, this is
>one-sided. The shepherd corrects the sheep and is
>considered a good shepherd. But, if the sheep
>corrects the shepherd, the sheep is considered
>disrespectful, rebellious, and proud.
you know, i don't like generalizations (not just concerning ubf. i generally don't like it.)
i'm sorry if you made such bad experiences, i really am. but i made different experiences.

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